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Re: Oh yah, Fargo's back and other good tv eh

Post by MachineGhost » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:52 pm

Desert wrote: I especially like the backstory on the film.  It was a story Duvall really wanted to tell.  He had trouble getting others interested.  And the crazy tent revival preachers are real preachers ... they didn't even have to act.  I loved the tag-team style, crazy preaching style.  It's just a darn good movie.
Unfortunately, that movie has tainted my image of Duvall as being a Jesus-freak so I no longer enjoy him so much as I can never wash myself completely of The Apostle and the several other movies he's been in that are religious-themed.  He's like turning into an octogenarian Kirk Cameron.
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Post by MachineGhost » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:56 pm

Justified jumped the shark way too early, but the wide array of talented actors still make it fascinating to watch.  It's a shame Hollywood is so obsessed over A and B-list.  There's a lot of great talent out there obviously going unused...
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Post by l82start » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:25 am

i don't remember a "full on jumped the shark moment" in justified, but they definitely hit the "we don't know where to go with this, lets just repeat what we did before we found our formula moment"
banshee has done the same thing the idea was interesting for about 1 1/2 seasons then the formula became way to obvious..
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Post by AdamA » Sat Oct 24, 2015 8:44 am

pugchief wrote: Justified is over. Last season was the finale.
Lol...I meant to say Rectify.
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MachineGhost wrote:
Desert wrote: I especially like the backstory on the film.  It was a story Duvall really wanted to tell.  He had trouble getting others interested.  And the crazy tent revival preachers are real preachers ... they didn't even have to act.  I loved the tag-team style, crazy preaching style.  It's just a darn good movie.
Unfortunately, that movie has tainted my image of Duvall as being a Jesus-freak so I no longer enjoy him so much as I can never wash myself completely of The Apostle and the several other movies he's been in that are religious-themed.  He's like turning into an octogenarian Kirk Cameron.
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Post by tennpaga » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:19 pm

Desert wrote:
MachineGhost wrote:
Desert wrote: I especially like the backstory on the film.  It was a story Duvall really wanted to tell.  He had trouble getting others interested.  And the crazy tent revival preachers are real preachers ... they didn't even have to act.  I loved the tag-team style, crazy preaching style.  It's just a darn good movie.
Unfortunately, that movie has tainted my image of Duvall as being a Jesus-freak so I no longer enjoy him so much as I can never wash myself completely of The Apostle and the several other movies he's been in that are religious-themed.  He's like turning into an octogenarian Kirk Cameron.
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+1

In any case, it's just a movie.  Plus, on the acting scale,  Kirk Cameron can't carry Robert Duvall's jock strap.  Or something like that.
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Post by Desert » Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:45 pm

TennPaGa wrote:
Desert wrote:
MachineGhost wrote: Unfortunately, that movie has tainted my image of Duvall as being a Jesus-freak so I no longer enjoy him so much as I can never wash myself completely of The Apostle and the several other movies he's been in that are religious-themed.  He's like turning into an octogenarian Kirk Cameron.
Ah, you're just a prisoner of your own bias.  Let go.  Life is better that way.
+1

In any case, it's just a movie.  Plus, on the acting scale,  Kirk Cameron can't carry Robert Duvall's jock strap.  Or something like that.
Agreed. 

One more thing about The Apostle, and then I'll be quiet:  The film can easily be viewed (and even enjoyed) as making light of the crazy preachers; making fun of the whole scene.  That was how I viewed it the first time I watched it in my pre-Christian years.  I thought it was a thoughtful caricature of Christian craziness.  My point is that the movie is appreciated more by the non-religious than the religious. 

Kinda like Jesus.  But now I'm spewing religion in a non-religion thread, and Tenn will soon be forced to burn me at the stake.  :) 
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Desert wrote: Agreed. 

One more thing about The Apostle, and then I'll be quiet:  The film can easily be viewed (and even enjoyed) as making light of the crazy preachers; making fun of the whole scene.  That was how I viewed it the first time I watched it in my pre-Christian years.  I thought it was a thoughtful caricature of Christian craziness.  My point is that the movie is appreciated more by the non-religious than the religious. 

Kinda like Jesus.  But now I'm spewing religion in a non-religion thread, and Tenn will soon be forced to burn me at the stake.  :)
I was religious when The Apostle came out and I remember some religious folks of the Pentecostal/Charismatic types that I hung out with  thought very highly of it. I thought it was pretty good myself. I didn't see it as a caricature at all. These were the same kind of religious folks i hung out with, just without the baseball bat killing thing.

But Robert Duvall will never top the role of Augustus McCrae in the best television mini-series of all time, Lonesome Dove.
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Post by Desert » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:11 pm

Fred wrote: I was religious when The Apostle came out and I remember some religious folks of the Pentecostal/Charismatic types that I hung out with  thought very highly of it. I thought it was pretty good myself. I didn't see it as a caricature at all. These were the same kind of religious folks i hung out with, just without the baseball bat killing thing.
Interesting ... now I'm going to have to watch it again. 
But Robert Duvall will never top the role of Augustus McCrae in the best television mini-series of all time, Lonesome Dove.
Lonesome Dove was great. 
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Post by MediumTex » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:13 am

MachineGhost wrote: Justified jumped the shark way too early, but the wide array of talented actors still make it fascinating to watch.  It's a shame Hollywood is so obsessed over A and B-list.  There's a lot of great talent out there obviously going unused...
I have a co-worker I talk to a lot in L.A. who is also an actress and I always like to talk to her about small roles she gets now and then.  At some point, she mentioned that she had done an episode of Justified, but I thought she was referring to an episode that had aired in a prior season.

I was watching Justified a few weeks later, and BOOM there is her face on the screen for several seconds and she had a couple of really funny lines.  It was such a treat because I wasn't expecting it at all and it was a much larger role than she had led me to believe.

I really enjoyed the whole show, though.  Really well-written and well-acted.  Lots of priceless lines and great characters.
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Post by l82start » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:44 pm

Fred wrote:
Desert wrote: Agreed. 

One more thing about The Apostle, and then I'll be quiet:  The film can easily be viewed (and even enjoyed) as making light of the crazy preachers; making fun of the whole scene.  That was how I viewed it the first time I watched it in my pre-Christian years.  I thought it was a thoughtful caricature of Christian craziness.  My point is that the movie is appreciated more by the non-religious than the religious. 

Kinda like Jesus.  But now I'm spewing religion in a non-religion thread, and Tenn will soon be forced to burn me at the stake.  :)
I was religious when The Apostle came out and I remember some religious folks of the Pentecostal/Charismatic types that I hung out with  thought very highly of it. I thought it was pretty good myself. I didn't see it as a caricature at all. These were the same kind of religious folks i hung out with, just without the baseball bat killing thing.

But Robert Duvall will never top the role of Augustus McCrae in the best television mini-series of all time, Lonesome Dove.
i am just watching it for the first time, i have to give Robert Duvall props for the acting, he got the speech pattern dead right even the little mannerisms, he kinda reminded me of Matthew McConaughey,
  the preacher/religion side of it is interesting, i am sure it portrays the type accurately and they are authentic in the way they behave and speak, but it has a almost turrets like feel to me, or like a record skipping and repeating, as if they fill their  head so full of bible quotes,  amens, and Jesus thanking to force any and all other thoughts out of their brain, and it just keeps spilling over and out their mouths.. it almost looks painful somehow...   
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