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I believe that most people around the world secretly admire the U.S., even if they say they hate it.

A better gauge of how the world feels about the U.S. might be how many tickets are sold around the world to U.S. movies.
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What the FUCK, Canada?
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Germans are hipsters, with the multiplier of having to interact with obnoxious US soldiers acting like turds. Not to mention geopolitics.
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TennPaGa wrote: Key chart:

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I'd like to see American's responses to these same questions. I didn't see it in that article.
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Kriegsspiel wrote: What the FUCK, Canada?
Take it from an average Canadian, most of us have a favorable view of the US, even if we differ on some political views.

Quebec is the primary reason for that figure, it has about 10 million people (maybe 1/3 of the country and perhaps reflects 1/3 of the hate in that poll) , many there have some serious ego issues about the french/english thing. Many want to split from the country and we should let them, they can take their debt, high taxes and socialist views with them.

Exclude quebec and I'd bet Canada has a more favorable view of the US than most of the countries on that list. Besides, we love crossing the border for the essentials: milk, eggs, beer, tobacco , bullets  :o
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Kriegsspiel wrote: I'd like to see American's responses to these same questions. I didn't see it in that article.
They'd have to restrict the poll to Americans that had heard of those countries and actually had an opinion about them.  Might be tough to get a statistically significant sample.
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Kriegsspiel wrote: What the FUCK, Canada?
Take it from an average Canadian, most of us have a favorable view of the US, even if we differ on some political views.

Quebec is the primary reason for that figure, it has about 10 million people (maybe 1/3 of the country and perhaps reflects 1/3 of the hate in that poll) , many there have some serious ego issues about the french/english thing. Many want to split from the country and we should let them, they can take their debt, high taxes and socialist views with them.

Exclude quebec and I'd bet Canada has a more favorable view of the US than most of the countries on that list. Besides, we love crossing the border for the essentials: milk, eggs, beer, tobacco , bullets  :o
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Kriegsspiel wrote: I'd like to see American's responses to these same questions. I didn't see it in that article.
They'd have to restrict the poll to Americans that had heard of those countries and actually had an opinion about them.  Might be tough to get a statistically significant sample.
What I mean is, American's reactions to the questions about America. I wonder if we like ourselves less than another country likes us. I think it was in The Post-American World by Zakaria where he mentions that India's favorable rating of the US was higher than the US's own opinion of itself. The data he used is probably about 10 years old now, so I'm curious as to how it's changed.
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Seems pretty predictable related to media control or lack thereof.
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The most surprising figure on that chart to me is Vietnam @ 78% favorable.
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Who can explain Germany's hostility to the U.S. in this poll? I know a lot of Germans are angry about U.S. bugging of their leaders' e-mail and phones. Can't blame them for that. It's outrageous (and I would like to hear the talking points of the U.S. State Department as its emissaries try to justify this in Berlin.)

But there has to be a deeper explanation for this floodtide of hostility. I know the German press is often contemptuous of "American conditions." Apparently, in their view, nothing good ever happens in Amerika.

Maybe they are eying a new candidate for the position of Beloved Fuhrer, Herr Putin? I recall Churchill's comment that the Germans are always at your feet or at your throat.
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madbean2 wrote: The most surprising figure on that chart to me is Vietnam @ 78% favorable.
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MediumTex wrote: Three words: Nail Salon Revenue.
Has anyone ever come up with a list of what ethnicities are to what businesses?  It would be fascinating.
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Ultimately, people overcome the trials and tribulations foisted up them by unjust governments.  Think BMW, Mercedes, SAP software, Lexus, Honda, Toyota, Subaru, Ferrari, BASF, Nail Salon, iPhones, iPads, iPods, MacBooks, clothing, athletic shoes, .... the list is almost endless. 

America will only have a poor global image if we stop buying all that stuff we have come to adore or stop visiting (tourism) those places we once only viewed from 20,000 feet in a bomber.

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madbean2 wrote: The most surprising figure on that chart to me is Vietnam @ 78% favorable.
Yeah, that is kind of shocking.  Imagine if we'd conducted a war like that in a Middle Eastern country.  They'd still be waging Jihad.
Bought a T-shirt with the label of made in Vietnam the other day.

Made me think how much different things would have been if we had just left them the hell alone instead of trying to "save" them from communism.

And I don't know what this even means or how it relates to the subject but I work for a company with 40,000 employees and was just given a project manager with the last name of "Nguyen". Looking in the employee directory there were 34 people with the same last name. There were only two others with my last name. I didn't have time to do a full analysis but I think only Smith and Jones had more.

Like I said, I don't know what that means entirely but thought it was interesting.
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Desert wrote:
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Desert wrote: Yeah, that is kind of shocking.  Imagine if we'd conducted a war like that in a Middle Eastern country.  They'd still be waging Jihad.
Bought a T-shirt with the label of made in Vietnam the other day.

Made me think how much different things would have been if we had just left them the hell alone instead of trying to "save" them from communism.

And I don't know what this even means or how it relates to the subject but I work for a company with 40,000 employees and was just given a project manager with the last name of "Nguyen". Looking in the employee directory there were 34 people with the same last name. There were only two others with my last name. I didn't have time to do a full analysis but I think only Smith and Jones had more.

Like I said, I don't know what that means entirely but thought it was interesting.
I recently hired a guy with that same last name.  His Father was a South Vietnamese fighter pilot.  His Father escaped to the U.S. during the fall of Saigon, and didn't see his son again for 20 years.
According to the 2000 census, Nguyen was the 57th most common last name in America. Pretty amazing when you think about it.

First time I heard the name, it was the first name of Nguyen Cao Ky who was American's puppet dictator of South Vietnam from 1965-67.

On my trip to Asia a few years ago a friend of my wife who is now an architect living in Hong Kong told me he spent a lot of time working in Vietnam and that there are actually a lot of American ex-pats living there. Again, pretty amazing. I'm hoping to pay a visit myself for old times sake someday.
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screwtape wrote:
Desert wrote:
madbean2 wrote: The most surprising figure on that chart to me is Vietnam @ 78% favorable.
Yeah, that is kind of shocking.  Imagine if we'd conducted a war like that in a Middle Eastern country.  They'd still be waging Jihad.
Bought a T-shirt with the label of made in Vietnam the other day.

Made me think how much different things would have been if we had just left them the hell alone instead of trying to "save" them from communism.

And I don't know what this even means or how it relates to the subject but I work for a company with 40,000 employees and was just given a project manager with the last name of "Nguyen". Looking in the employee directory there were 34 people with the same last name. There were only two others with my last name. I didn't have time to do a full analysis but I think only Smith and Jones had more.

Like I said, I don't know what that means entirely but thought it was interesting.
When I taught C++ at UT (Dallas) about 15 years ago, out of about 70 students there were about 20 with the last name "Nguyen". They all got A's, which surprised me because I had no idea what they were saying most of the time when they spoke to me. Apparently the lack of comprehension wasn't mutual. :-)
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Desert wrote:
madbean2 wrote: The most surprising figure on that chart to me is Vietnam @ 78% favorable.
Yeah, that is kind of shocking.  Imagine if we'd conducted a war like that in a Middle Eastern country.  They'd still be waging Jihad.
Didn't we, and aren't they?

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I only know 3 Germans well, w/ a sprinkling of acquaintances, and they all live here. So I assume they like it.  But, I would also like to think that if Germans spent some time here, even the ones who aren't too fond of us would come to like us somewhat.

In any case, to hell w/  world opinion. As I always say, they'll love us when China's on top and our power is diminished.

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Desert wrote: The most surprising figure on that chart to me is Vietnam @ 78% favorable.
they love us long time??

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Since the USA is part of the Globe, I thought this was appropriate for our July 4 celebration.

Enjoy, ponder, reflect.

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People on the left often have problems being patriotic on the 4th of July, since they consider the nation whose birthday is celebrated to have been built on slavery, imperialism, and a predatory capitalism.  But now conservatives, usually the big flag wavers on Independence Day, might also feel disillusioned with the USA.

We live in a country that seems to stand for license without freedom.  We are ruled by trends instead of by law.  We are radical individualists and, at the same time, conformists.  We have a good constitution, but no one follows it much anymore, and our Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches all seem out of whack.  To be sure, America should not be confused with its government, but even worse than our government and the source of its errors is our culture.  Oblivious to our history and traditions, today’s culture seems shallow, materialistic, irrational, and immoral.  America may have been a good idea back in 1776, but the reality is not measuring up.  Or so we might think in 2015.

I think even those who think that way–or the way the Left thinks–should celebrate on July 4.  I’ll explain why after the jump.  G. K. Chesterton said something to the effect that  we should love our country not because it is necessarily so great, but because it is our home.  We love the members of our family not because they are all flawless but because they are family.  In fact, a flaw can make us love a loved-one even more, because it brings out our worry, our compassion, and our caring.  We need to love our country like that.

For us Americans, the USA  is our home.  American culture is our culture.  And, if we are honest, we have to admit that its flaws are our flaws.

There is lots that is good about America, and even more that is innocent.  American music, food, folkways, and the land itself–vast and varied, all the mountains and deserts and plains, the fields and the cities and the small towns–these are ours, and they are worth appreciating.  And America has contributed so much that is good to the world.  And we do have liberties that most countries lack, and a great price has been paid for them.

So even when we get depressed at the state of the nation, we mustn’t forget those things.

As for the things that make us disappointed or frustrated or pessimistic about the future, consider those to be reasons to care about your country even more and to motivate you to do what you can to build it back up again.
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Nguyen Phu Trong will become the first leader of Vietnam's Communist Party to ever visit the United States when he meets with President Obama at the White House next week.
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