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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Tyler » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:36 am

vnatale wrote:
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The source of the article to be trusted?
The article accurately quotes Flynn's own attorney and provides a direct link to the court filing to back it up. So yes.

I'm more interested in what your doubt about the veracity of a well-known court case implies about the sources you do trust. If the truth surprises you, maybe it's time to branch out!
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Kriegsspiel » Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:55 pm

Justice Department watchdog finds errors in over 25% of FBI applications to "monitor" Americans.
The report said investigators found facts in all 25 applications that were either not supported, not clearly corroborated or inconsistent with documentation in factual-support files, though it didn’t look at the broader case file for such information. It said the review had found an average of 20 issues per application, with as many as 65 issues in one, and fewer than five in another.

The findings follow a December report in which the watchdog found a series of errors in the FBI’s pursuit of a wiretap against Mr. Page, a former Trump foreign-policy adviser.

In four additional applications, the FBI couldn’t locate the files of factual support, the report said.
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

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Kriegsspiel wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:55 pm
Justice Department watchdog finds errors in over 25% of FBI applications to "monitor" Americans.
The report said investigators found facts in all 25 applications that were either not supported, not clearly corroborated or inconsistent with documentation in factual-support files, though it didn’t look at the broader case file for such information. It said the review had found an average of 20 issues per application, with as many as 65 issues in one, and fewer than five in another.

The findings follow a December report in which the watchdog found a series of errors in the FBI’s pursuit of a wiretap against Mr. Page, a former Trump foreign-policy adviser.

In four additional applications, the FBI couldn’t locate the files of factual support, the report said.
It's stuff like this that makes me intellectually sympathetic to the libertarian ideal.

Government authority, arbitrary abuses of power, and the lack of any real checks and balances are the issues that plague our society today.

What really worries me is how the government is going to use the (legitimate) COVID-19 pandemic to permanently erode our freedoms.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/snowden-c ... veillance/
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Kriegsspiel » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:21 pm

Full agree. This is something to keep an eye on.
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Tortoise » Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:55 pm

Maybe after this pandemic, the only way a person will be allowed to buy or sell anything in public will be if a personal device or implanted chip (“mark of the Beast”) verifies that the person isn’t currently infected by the seasonal boogeyman virus.

That’ll get both the libertarians and the Christian fundamentalists excited!
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by dualstow » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:41 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:55 pm
Maybe after this pandemic, the only way a person will be allowed to buy or sell anything in public will be if a personal device or implanted chip (“mark of the Beast”) verifies that the person isn’t currently infected by the seasonal boogeyman virus.

That’ll get both the libertarians and the Christian fundamentalists excited!
There was a weird conspiracy theory about Bill Gates wanting to implant such a chip. It was supposed to tell you whether or not someone had been tested. i thought it was a funny parody of Windows certification (proof of purchase), but there are people out there who took it seriously.
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Ad Orientem » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:05 pm

OMG

https://youtu.be/DLVqvYJqATQ

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Re: When the cops are the criminals

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Kriegsspiel wrote:
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Anyone been following the developments with this crew?
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by dualstow » Sun May 03, 2020 9:16 pm

😂 😂
Kriegsspiel wrote:
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Anyone been following the developments with this crew?
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Hal » Tue May 19, 2020 3:51 am

Melbourne made it into the "Solari Report"

Social Distancing the Victorian way....

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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Kriegsspiel » Tue May 19, 2020 6:01 am

What was that all about?
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Hal » Tue May 19, 2020 6:36 am

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 6:01 am
What was that all about?
Either not a legitimate reason to be out of your house (eg Supermarket) or more than two people together.
Take your pick :)
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... s-c-958222
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Hal » Tue May 19, 2020 6:53 am

Hal wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 6:36 am
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 6:01 am
What was that all about?
Either not a legitimate reason to be out of your house (eg Supermarket) or more than two people together.
Take your pick :)
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... s-c-958222
And please Gerald Celente, do a parody on this >:D
Still remember your last one from about ten years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx3R_glJde8
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Kriegsspiel » Tue May 19, 2020 10:16 am

MangoMan wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 7:56 am
Hal wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 6:53 am
Hal wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 6:36 am
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Tue May 19, 2020 6:01 am
What was that all about?
Either not a legitimate reason to be out of your house (eg Supermarket) or more than two people together.
Take your pick :)
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-w ... s-c-958222
And please Gerald Celente, do a parody on this >:D
Still remember your last one from about ten years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx3R_glJde8
That was so funny and disturbing at the same time. It really makes you take a step back and ask WTF the government is ordering (this is not the cops' fault, they are doing their job) and why we are allowing it.
There's a book that goes in-depth into that phenomenon. A universal aspect that one notices is that the process follows a crawl-walk-run escalation.
The Gov of IL is now threatening to pull the business license of anyone who violates the order. It's not your business, it is the state's (and the city's) and you operate it only at their pleasure.
We're definitely seeing governments probing to see how much they can get away with.
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Tortoise » Fri May 29, 2020 1:53 am

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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by dualstow » Mon Oct 10, 2022 7:37 pm

🚧 old thread 🚧
A friend sent me this. I don't like John Oliver as much as I used to and disagree with him often. Also, this is only tangentially related, as it's local news coverage that's getting roasted. But, the police get singed a little.

https://youtu.be/kCOnGjvYKI0
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by dualstow » Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:25 pm

🚨 Old, old thread 🚨
I just saw videos and articles re: the Tyler Canaris (victim) — Michael McMaster (policeman) incident.
social media, youtube, heavy.com …
I generally support the police and they’ve always been good to me, but I am increasingly aware of incidents like these.
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Re: When the cops are the criminals

Post by Hal » Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:05 am

Seeing the thread has been resurrected, this incident last year left me speechless. How anyone can be this stupid amazes me :o

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/24/us/c ... index.html
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