Who Killed Kennedy?

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What's your view of the Kennedy assassination?

The evidence is overwhelming, it was a conspiracy.
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Lots of questions and loose ends, it might have been a conspiracy.
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I am unsure.
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There are some unanswered questions, but the evidence points to Oswald.
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The evidence is overwhelming, Oswald did it alone.
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Who Killed Kennedy?

Post by Ad Orientem » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:46 am

I figured someone just had to ask the question given the anniversary.
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Re: Who Killed Kennedy?

Post by Pointedstick » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:02 am

How do I know it wasn't you? ;)
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Post by ns2 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:03 am

The Kennedy mini-series that is showing on Reelz is pretty good. Might be the last chance to see it if interest dies down after 50 years. Takes you all the way through the assassination of Bobby. I was watching TV when he gave the peace sign and said "on to Chicago" and then I turned it off. I think he was shot about 10 seconds later as I learned the next morning. Lots of conspiracy theories about that one too, including Sirhan Sirhan as a Manchurian candidate. To this day he says he doesn't remember doing it, but the CIA says it's not possible to create a Manchurian candidate. They know because they tried.
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Post by Kshartle » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:08 am

ns2 wrote: CIA says it's not possible to create a Manchurian candidate. They know because they tried.
So they admit to trying to create involuntary assasins to murder and take all blame (hardly a noble thing) but you believe them when they say they failed?

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Re: Who Killed Kennedy?

Post by Ad Orientem » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:11 am

An ABC News documentary examines the evidence using modern technology that wasn't available in the 1960's.
http://youtu.be/sYmLf749K5U
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Post by Ad Orientem » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:12 am

Pointedstick wrote: How do I know it wasn't you? ;)
I wasn't born. But then again, maybe my birth certificate is an elaborate fake.... hmmm.
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Post by MediumTex » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:13 am

Although all signs point to Oswald being the lone assassin, the idea of being able to hit a moving target at that range twice in such a short time frame is absolutely amazing.

Kennedy was hit in the neck and a few seconds later in the head as he sat in a moving vehicle (and Kennedy himself was moving around after being hit the first time).

Oswald was just tragically lucky that day.  I'll bet if he tried to make those same two shots 100 times, he wouldn't be able to do it more than a few times.
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Post by Ad Orientem » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:21 am

The sniper's nest is open to the public now and there are large X's painted on Elm street showing exactly where the car was when each shot was fired. Some people I know who have been up on the sixth floor tell me it was like shooting fish in a barrel. The wonder is not that Oswald hit Kennedy twice (he was a crack shot), but that one of the three shots missed him.
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Post by TennPaGa » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:36 am

Ad Orientem wrote: I figured someone just had to ask the question given the anniversary.
I seem to recall you writing that you were a Kennedy assassination (conspiracy) buff at one point (but not now).  Is that right?  If so, I'd be interested in your thoughts (both about the facts of the assassination and your own intellectual journey).
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Post by ns2 » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:46 am

Kshartle wrote: So they admit to trying to create involuntary assasins to murder and take all blame (hardly a noble thing) but you believe them when they say they failed?
They've done far less noble things than that and no, I don't believe a word they say. Kennedy himself was behind some of those ignoble things and that is well documented.

One of the more interesting pieces of fuel for the conspiracy fires is the deathbed confession of E. Howard Hunt, the convicted Watergate burglar and former CIA agent. He made a recorded deathbed confession to his son, and I think you can hear it on the internet, in which he confessed that it was a CIA hit job.

I'm still not convinced and probably never will be but I've always thought if there was a conspiracy, they were the most likely culprits behind it - not the Russians and not the mob.
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Post by l82start » Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:56 am

one of the best ways to hide a conspiracy, is by starting a series of multiple competing conspiracies, some of which are so ridiculous that when you debunk them, it gives all the competing theories, or the idea of even proposing a theory a black eye..

how many competing theories are there about Kennedy? and how quickly did they emerge?  ;)
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Re: Who Killed Kennedy?

Post by Kshartle » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:17 am

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Kshartle wrote: So they admit to trying to create involuntary assasins to murder and take all blame (hardly a noble thing) but you believe them when they say they failed?
They've done far less noble things than that and no, I don't believe a word they say. Kennedy himself was behind some of those ignoble things and that is well documented.

One of the more interesting pieces of fuel for the conspiracy fires is the deathbed confession of E. Howard Hunt, the convicted Watergate burglar and former CIA agent. He made a recorded deathbed confession to his son, and I think you can hear it on the internet, in which he confessed that it was a CIA hit job.

I'm still not convinced and probably never will be but I've always thought if there was a conspiracy, they were the most likely culprits behind it - not the Russians and not the mob.
Yeah, how could the russians and mob keep the us govt from exposing them? It's obvious it was the US govt. The Oswald theory is silly.
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