Something tells me there is a small hoard of gold somewhere at the bottom of the South China Sea.notsheigetz wrote: I think the big difference for me was that I actually was in a typhoon in the South China sea (interestingly around the same time as the Apollo 13 misadventure), so the effect it had on me was that of rekindling a memory.
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Seriously, Smurff. With all these boating accidents, I think it's time to get a minisub out to various bodies of water. We could really clean up.
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Sorry, the only gold I owned at the time was my class ring which I ended up trading for favors in Olongapo, P.I., shortly after the voyage.smurff wrote:Something tells me there is a small hoard of gold somewhere at the bottom of the South China Sea.notsheigetz wrote: I think the big difference for me was that I actually was in a typhoon in the South China sea (interestingly around the same time as the Apollo 13 misadventure), so the effect it had on me was that of rekindling a memory.
As for things deposited in the ocean during the typhoon I saw a lot of the old-salts vomiting over the side. Most of us younger guys had a secret cure for seasickness they didn't know about.
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I didn't get what you were saying at first, but when it clicked it made me recall a deep sea fishing trip I took once where a lot of people were puking, but my buddy and I were safe.notsheigetz wrote:Sorry, the only gold I owned at the time was my class ring which I ended up trading for favors in Olongapo, P.I., shortly after the voyage.smurff wrote:Something tells me there is a small hoard of gold somewhere at the bottom of the South China Sea.notsheigetz wrote: I think the big difference for me was that I actually was in a typhoon in the South China sea (interestingly around the same time as the Apollo 13 misadventure), so the effect it had on me was that of rekindling a memory.
As for things deposited in the ocean during the typhoon I saw a lot of the old-salts vomiting over the side. Most of us younger guys had a secret cure for seasickness they didn't know about.
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I saw the movie and thought that the plot was very shallow. The story could have been written on a paper napkin in about 10 minutes. The special effects were great and Sandra Bullock panting through most of the movie was nice, but not a great movie IMHO.
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Some movies are plot-driven, others are character-driven. Both can be great.
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The plot was pure character arc and an analogy on life.smurff wrote: Some movies are plot-driven, others are character-driven. Both can be great.
I felt utterly frustrated and drained most of the movie, but I think in a way you're supposed to feel. It's not supposed to be easy. All survival movies are uncomfortable in that way, bu this one was downright maddening (in a good way, again).
I liked that the message of the movie was on the same wavelength of How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World:
Are you going to live your life, or are you going to allow the bad parts of what has happened to you continue to fester in your soul, and allow the debris (traps) of your past continue to ruin your future (yes, the use of "debris" was on purpose haha)?
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I'm not completely sure that Sandra Bullock didn't die at some point after her hallucination of George Clooney making it back. Such a hallucination would be consistent with a person dying, and much of what happened afterward seemed a little less believable than what came before. I mean, are we supposed to believe that she piloted a capsule through reentry with all of the controls written in Chinese and in the middle of a cloud of space debris and just happened to land safely a short distance from shore?
If you really think about her conversation with Clooney and her conversation with herself later (even though the whole thing was really just one big conversation with herself), she talked about saying hi to her little girl in Heaven, but that could easily have been because she wanted the people she cared about to meet death with their faith intact, even though hers was gone. Perhaps her dying mental experience was of imagining herself conquering her predicament through a theoretically plausible scenario, but one that didn't REALLY make that much sense--e.g., using a fire extinguisher to perform a successful space walk between two spacecraft.
Think about it.
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I'm not completely sure that Sandra Bullock didn't die at some point after her hallucination of George Clooney making it back. Such a hallucination would be consistent with a person dying, and much of what happened afterward seemed a little less believable than what came before. I mean, are we supposed to believe that she piloted a capsule through reentry with all of the controls written in Chinese and in the middle of a cloud of space debris and just happened to land safely a short distance from shore?
If you really think about her conversation with Clooney and her conversation with herself later (even though the whole thing was really just one big conversation with herself), she talked about saying hi to her little girl in Heaven, but that could easily have been because she wanted the people she cared about to meet death with their faith intact, even though hers was gone. Perhaps her dying mental experience was of imagining herself conquering her predicament through a theoretically plausible scenario, but one that didn't REALLY make that much sense--e.g., using a fire extinguisher to perform a successful space walk between two spacecraft.
Think about it.
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Very interesting theory but I had suspended disbelief in the plausibility of the whole scenario long before that point so it never occurred to me.MediumTex wrote: SPOILER ALERT!!!
I'm not completely sure that Sandra Bullock didn't die at some point after her hallucination of George Clooney making it back. Such a hallucination would be consistent with a person dying, and much of what happened afterward seemed a little less believable than what came before. I mean, are we supposed to believe that she piloted a capsule through reentry with all of the controls written in Chinese and in the middle of a cloud of space debris and just happened to land safely a short distance from shore?
Think about it.
Some of my co-workers and I spent Monday morning picking the whole thing apart so I would have to agree with Reub about the script. If you are looking for pure realism in a space story stick with Apollo 13, one of the movies I can't resist watching every time I come across it while channel-surfing.
Still, I think it was a great movie. Unless I'm watching a movie about a historical event or one that is trying to make a political statement, I'm ready to just go along with the ride and let myself be entertained for an hour and a half and Gravity definitely does that.
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ha! It's just a movie. I'm taking the plot at face value.
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Me too.dualstow wrote: ha! It's just a movie. I'm taking the plot at face value.
The plot gave us hints.
She said she had crashed every time she had attempted reentry in the Russian craft.
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