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The Permanent Tooth and Gum Care Regime

Post by MachineGhost » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:25 pm

At first glance this regime (inspired by a book that goes into the nitty gritty scientific details, Kiss Your Dentist Goodbye) doesn't appear to be anything radical, but each step is amazingly interdependent on each other step -- even negative side effects -- just like the PP!  Mess with it at your own peril. :D

STEP ONE: Use the RediBreeze, QuickBreeze or ShowerBreeze (or a WaterPik, etc. but will be inferior in power) to floss your teeth.

STEP TWO: Use a tongue scraper to scrape the gunk coating off of your tongue.  Don't overdo it or press down too hard; I use about six double swipes until the scraper comes off clean (you want to use running water to rinse it off in-between swipes).

STEP THREE: Use unflavored CloSYS that kills 99% of bacteria in the mouth (even anthrax!) and also highly alkalizes the mouth to protect it from enamal damage and erosion from the tooth brushing in the next step.  CloSYS has a proprietary wetting agent that allows it to slip under the gumline (but allegedly no deeper then 3mm).  Acidic enamal is very prone to damage.  Swish for 1 minute and not one second longer.  SPIT BUT DO NOT RINSE MOUTH OUT WITH WATER.  If you cannot handle using CloSYS twice a day because it negatively affects your sense of taste and/or gives you a funny metallic taste in your mouth, then use warm salt water (1 tsp per cup) in the morning and the CloSYS at night.

STEP FOUR: Use a pea size of a very specific, plain jane, Crest Cavity Protection Fluoride Anticavity Regular Toothpaste that has the unique ability to remineralize the teeth due to the ingredients and contains the only effective as well as natural version of the several forms of flouride commercially available.  The SLS is also bound up so it is not an issue.  This means none of the non-ADA approved marketing fiction gimmicks like tartar control, whitening, baking soda, etc. that just damage the teeth, erode the pellicle layer or inhibit remineralization as glycerine does (very common ingredient in natural toothpastes).  The toothpaste also coats the teeth to protect it from the acidic next step.  Brush for two minutes.  SPIT BUT DO NOT RINSE MOUTH OUT WITH WATER.  I recommed using an Emmident if you have dental implants as it can kill the bugs deep below the gumline.  Otherwise, use the best electronic toothbrush.

STEP FIVE: Use Listerine Original Antiseptic (not the other non-ADA versions) to kill off immature plaque bacteria.  You can use other flavors of Listerine Antispetic than the Original, but they will not whiten the teeth as well.  Listerine is quite acidifying (I confirmed with pH testing), so if this was your last step after brushing as is traditional, you are literally leaving acid on your teeth all night long in low saliva conditions.  Listerine ought to be criminalized, but its all about making a perpetual buck for dentists and manufacturers.  You can use as much cold water as you need to dilute this step so its tolerable and I recommend always doing so because the continual burning from the alcohol (necessary for the active essential oils to work) may degrade your taste buds.  Swish for one minute, then tilt your head back and deep throat gargle for 30 seconds.  SPIT BUT DO NOT RINSE MOUTH OUT WITH WATER.  It is acceptable to use Walmart's Equate Original Flavor Antiseptic Mouthrinse to save money.  I find the white cap a heck of alot easier to measure out the dose than Listerine's black cap.

STEP SIX: Use ACT Anticavity Rinse (not the other non-ADA approved versions) which neutralizes the acid from the previous step and raises the pH of your mouth back to alkaline.  The .05% flouride (18oz bottle) for remineralization is taken up 6x better when the teeth are acid and over time this process will actually harden (lower) the teeth's sensitivity to acid attack.  This step will also increase the flow of saliva to offset the mouth-drying effect of the alcohol in Listerine.  The more acid in the mouth, the better remineralization works, so ACT Anticavity wouldn't work very well being the last step after brushing when the mouth is already alkaline from toothapste.  Swish for one minute and not a second longer.  DO NOT RINSE MOUTH OUT WITH WATER.  The kids flavored versions of ACT Anticavity are okay to use and so is Walmart's Equate Anti-Cavity Mint Flavor Fluoride Rinse, but they are not as clingy as the mint ACT Anticavity.

OPTIONAL STEP SEVEN: Ideally, 30 minutes later and only once a day (I suggest in the morning), repopulate your oral microbiome with beneficial probiotics.  I recommend specific strains that break down plaque and reduce tooth decay, such as FlorAssist Oral Hygiene.

OPTIONAL STEP EIGHT: Another major boost in effectiveness can come from sucking on xlitol mints or chewing gum as an after meal dessert.  The bugs take up xylitol like any sugar, but because xylitol has one less carbon ring, they literally starve to death and out they go next time you do the rinses/brushing.  Xylitol alone reduces tooth decay by 80%-90%.  That's how good it is.

This twice-a-day regime in 7 minutes or so will completely eliminate dragon/morning breath and whiten teeth when followed exactly.  I've found a crucial step is to deep throat gargle with Listerine after doing the teeth.  Seems like odors still emanate from there if not cleansed.  It will also eliminate plaque, gingivitis and periodontal disease if you are diligent and fortunate.  You may not even need to have any scraping done at your next cleaning as some testimonials indicate!  And be sure to always tilt your head back when swishing so you reach the back molars.
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Re: The Permanent Tooth and Gum Care Regime

Post by dualstow » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:29 pm

Welcome back, MG. I miss your tech posts.
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Post by sophie » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:48 pm

I was wondering where you'd gone to, MG!

Where did you hear about this regime, or did you develop it yourself?  A question...what's the extra benefit provided by the closys pre-brushing?  Brushing alone + Listerine should be enough to deal with oral pathogens, but no amount of mouthwashing is going to convert your mouth into an OR clean room.
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Post by Gumby » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:39 pm

sophie wrote: I was wondering where you'd gone to, MG!

Where did you hear about this regime, or did you develop it yourself?  A question...what's the extra benefit provided by the closys pre-brushing?  Brushing alone + Listerine should be enough to deal with oral pathogens, but no amount of mouthwashing is going to convert your mouth into an OR clean room.
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Re: The Permanent Tooth and Gum Care Regime

Post by Benko » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:51 am

1. any idea if Erythritol has same effect on teeth as xylitol?

2. I use listerene in a waterpick: 1 capful of listerene diluted in water in the waterpick waterholder along the gumline and between teeth.  solves the Ph issues.

3.  why not colgate total?
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Re: The Permanent Tooth and Gum Care Regime

Post by Gumby » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:50 am

Benko wrote: 1. any idea if Erythritol has same effect on teeth as xylitol?
No idea, but according to Wikipedia...
Wikipedia wrote:Erythritol has been certified as tooth-friendly. The sugar alcohol cannot be metabolized by oral bacteria, so does not contribute to tooth decay. Interestingly, erythritol exhibits some, but not all, of xylitol's tendency to "starve" harmful bacteria. Unlike xylitol, erythritol is actually absorbed into the bloodstream after consumption but before excretion. However, it is not clear at present if the effect of starving harmful bacteria occurs systemically.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythritol ... d_bacteria
Benko wrote:3.  why not colgate total?
Looks like additional questions (on this protocol) can be answered on her blog:
Ellie Phillips, DDS wrote:Pastes with baking soda, peroxide and other chemicals seem to include chemicals that cause many sensitivity reactions. Colgate Total has an ingredient called triclosan which reacts with the chlorine in tap water to produce chloroform not good for the skin of your mouth and often a precursor for canker sores. I would advise anyone with a history of canker sores to make sure they do not use a paste with triclosan in it.

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Post by Gosso » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:27 am

Perfect timing!  I just started this regime last week, after Gumby mentioned this in another thread a few months back.

Although I am not using the pre-brush rinse since I couldn't find the stuff at the store; instead I apply toothpaste very gently and allow it to sit for 30 seconds, then start brushing.  I'm planning on picking up some xylitol after work...if I can find it.

I still floss everyday since it can only help as long as the proper technique is used.

I haven't been doing this long enough to notice any major changes, but I have noticed that my mouth feels a lot cleaner when I wake up in the morning.

I also found this article on the Colgate website (of all places!) that suggests that we are better off to allow early tooth decay to heal, rather than drill and fill it in.
So early decay doesn't always mean you need a filling. In fact, the decay often can be reversed. A tooth starts to decay because acid in your mouth causes minerals to leach out of the enamel, and the enamel breaks down. Fluoride therapy, dietary changes and better oral hygiene habits can reverse this process by causing minerals to build up in the tooth again, making the enamel stronger.

In some cases, a filling is a no-brainer. If you're in pain or have an obvious cavity (a break in the surface of your tooth), you need a filling. But, says Dr. Albert, "If there's no cavity and no pain, the tooth can fix itself.

"If I saw 100 patients [who had early decay] and decided to wait six months before treating them, it would be the right decision for 95 of them. I think we do more harm by overtreating, because there will always be complications of treatment," he says.
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Post by MediumTex » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:55 am

I have been using "Concentrace" mineral drops for a while (as I think Gumby is using it as well), and it has occurred to me that an oral rinse with a stronger Concentrace solution than you would want to drink could potentially provide benefits to your teeth by allowing them to absorb minerals in the rinse.

Anyone have any thoughts on this idea?

Also, can anyone help me understand why your teeth feel more sensitive after eating a candy bar?  That's always seemed strange to me.  What is it that sugar does to make your teeth feel more sensitive so quickly?

Another unusual practice that seems to work for me is to take a soft microfiber towel and literally "wipe" your teeth moving from the gum down prior to brushing?  When I do this I feel like the tooth brushing is a lot more effective because a lot of the material on the surface of the teeth has already been removed through the "wiping" step.  This may be a terrible or crazy idea.  Let me know what you think of it, though.
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Post by Gumby » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:23 pm

Minerals are, of course, certainly important, but you definitely need vitamins D, and K2 (as MK-4) in place for remineralization to occur. Taking even a small amount of K2 as MK-4 will do wonders for your enamel.
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Post by MediumTex » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:30 pm

Gumby wrote: Minerals are, of course, certainly important, but you definitely need vitamins D, and K2 (as MK-4) in place for remineralization to occur. Taking even a small amount of K2 as MK-4 will do wonders for your enamel.
What is K2 and how do you take it?

I suppose that the vitamin D issue arising from living in a northern latitude might help explain the "Austin Powers" problem that many in the UK seem to have with their teeth.
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Post by Benko » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:00 pm

MediumTex wrote: What is K2 and how do you take it?
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Vit K is a vitamin commonly thought of as being involved mainly in blood clotting but different forms also are important for bones and e.g. have been used to treat osteoporosis (when used in higer doses) in Japan for...ages.
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Post by MediumTex » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:45 pm

Anyone have any thoughts on my pre-brushing teeth wiping idea?
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