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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by MediumTex » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:16 pm

dualstow wrote:
Reub wrote: Now go to your room or I'll cut you out of my will for sure!
Sounds like someone's a little low on Riboflavin..
You mean reuboflavin?
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by dualstow » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:46 am

MediumTex wrote: You mean reuboflavin?
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by Reub » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:02 pm

I might have to patent that word for later use.
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by MachineGhost » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:36 pm

moda0306 wrote: I've been noticing that I'm chronically deficient in potassium intake, even if I have two bananas and some potatoes, which is not the case every day (very rarely in fact).

Anyone have any advice on how to get more?  Just buy a supplement?  Oddly, it isn't in my multivitamin.
Search for The Permanent Rehydration Water thread or something.  That's how I deal with it after trying various methods (2 cups upon wakeup and another 2C before the sauna).  Potassium is some nasty tasting stuff to use as a salt substitute and it really doesn't work.
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by MachineGhost » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:39 pm

moda0306 wrote: By the way, I used to eat cereal all the time, and I have a question.... I realize there are a lot of grainy/sugary/dairy-y reasons to not like cereal, but I rarely hear from anti-cereal folks even the slightest credit given to the fact that they are vitamin & mineral fortified.  I realize supplements are NOT perfect, and in the case of iron and others, can sometimes be dangerous, but I notice that when I take my multivitamin, even with lots of food, my urine turns colors.  My Total Raisin Bran never did that to me, nor did it taste funny.  Does anyone here want to comment on vitamin/mineral fortification in foods?  Is it better/worse than just taking a multivitamin with a fatty meal?
It's garbage/junx unbonded/unchelated synthetic vitamins and inorganic minerals.  Not even remotely what is in a real food matrix.  Also, sometimes they only dose to a fraction of the RDA compared to a multi-vitamin/mineral.  The RDA is a joke to begin with but a fraction might as well be fairy dust.
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by MachineGhost » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:42 pm

Dozha wrote: FDA/NCTA [National Center for Toxicology Research] scientists in collaboration with Shanghai Institute for Food and Drug Control (China) have shown that goldenseal and one of its major alkaloid constitutents,  Berberine, are potent producers of DNA damage in in vitro human cell cultures.  In cells treated with goldenseal, the extent of DNA damage was correlated to the Berberine content and was directly associated with inhibition of topoisomerase II (an essential enzyme for DNA replication).  Goldenseal . . . was shown to increase liver tumors in rodents in a National Toxicology Program two-year carcinogenicity study.  However, the mechanism for liver carcinogenity was not determined in this study [but see below re incretin drugs].  ... In addition, DNA damage was also observed in cells treated with commercially available goldenseal extracts and the extent of DNA damage was positively correlated to the berberine content.
In vitro testing is worthless.

A few years in Australia ago there was a study showing that alcohol in mouthwash caused cancer to in vitro isolated human cell cheek cultures or something to that effect.  The study funders just happened to be a new competitor to Listerine. ::)  Naturally, this got spread around by the boobs that Listerine causes cancer and hence a new urban legend was created.

So same B.S., different year.  Publish or perish.
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by MachineGhost » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:45 pm

dualstow wrote: Excellent Frontline program on supplements aired tonight -- when is Frontline not excellent? --
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/artic ... he-bottle/
When it is one-sided propaganda authored and funded by Big Pharma -- which it was in this case.
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by MachineGhost » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:51 pm

dualstow wrote: myself am not a disbeliever. I am just suspicious of the people who put the pills together in the first place. Why? Because it's unregulated in the States. I realize that this is a very libertarian forum, but I like the idea of someone watching the vitamin makers since I don't have a lab to see what's in my pills.
Ught.  It's NOT unregulated.  It's regulated under the DSHEA of 1994.  The major difference is FDA pre-approval to the tune of $1 billion and 10 years of trials is not first required to demonstrate efficacy.  The FDA has full legal authority to take ANY supplement off the market if it is mislabeled, adultered, unsafe or does not follow stringent cGMP.

Stop spreading lies because this is what anti-supplement proponents do.  You know, the crony idiots in Big Pharma's pockets like mandatory vaccination proponent Dr. [Pr]Offit?
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by MachineGhost » Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:54 pm

dualstow wrote: Again, I'm all for supplements. I just think a lot of people are out there willing to make a fast buck at the expense of our dollars at the least, and our health at the worst. And if they aren't regulated, who's to stop them?
BTW, how well is your regulation working out for you with Big Pharma?  There's bad apples in any barrel, but the bad apples overwhelm in the Big Pharma barrel because they control the FDA via the revolving door syndrome.  Would you want supplements to fall victim to the same corruption?  I have some pretty choice words to say about that which aren't at all family friendly.
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by MachineGhost » Tue May 31, 2016 9:55 pm

Not advocating anything, but below are select slides from a presentation given by Dr. Roizen who is the chief wellness officer at the Cleveland Clinic:

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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by MachineGhost » Tue May 31, 2016 9:57 pm

I may have an update to the regime soon (the one in the OP, not mine).
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Re: The Permanent Supplement Regime

Post by pugchief » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:04 am

Interesting info in the slides. Any idea why he recommends avoiding mouthwash with alcohol?
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