Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
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Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
Leaving all politics aside, which one of these 2 Presidential candidates do you think would add more value to the PP, Obama or Romney, or does it make a difference?
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Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
That's like asking me to choose between the gas chamber and the electric chair.
[Edit: No, I don't think it makes a difference. Political rhetoric aside they are both very close philosophically and on most policy issues.]
[Edit: No, I don't think it makes a difference. Political rhetoric aside they are both very close philosophically and on most policy issues.]
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Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
if the incumbent returns to office, we might learn why HB insisted on holding assets outside your country...in fact we likely will regardless (assuming its not Dr. Paul)...due to FATCA & Dodd-Frank.
Also, we may also learn how the PP performs when a nation-state loses status of world's reserve currency in terms of preserving purchasing power....again, assuming Dr. Paul isn't elected. I see no reason to have any confidence that either major candidate will get US finances in order to instill long-term confidence. The incumbent wants the state to grow & grow and hand out benefits to his expanding constituency. Romney wants to maintain the endless war-fare state.
Also, we may also learn how the PP performs when a nation-state loses status of world's reserve currency in terms of preserving purchasing power....again, assuming Dr. Paul isn't elected. I see no reason to have any confidence that either major candidate will get US finances in order to instill long-term confidence. The incumbent wants the state to grow & grow and hand out benefits to his expanding constituency. Romney wants to maintain the endless war-fare state.
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Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
Leaving all milk content aside, let's compare these two cheeses...Reub wrote: Leaving all politics aside, which one of these 2 Presidential candidates do you think would add more value to the PP, Obama or Romney, or does it make a difference?
Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
Romney and Obama are hard to tell apart.
George W. Bush and Obama are hard to tell apart for that matter, other than Bush was a little easier on the oil and gas industry.
There are pressures that basically mold almost any candidate into a pretty tight space once they take office. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are great examples. Obama campaigned on "change", but here we are still in Afghanistan chasing around ghosts. Iraq did end, but that seemed like it was more Iraq's idea than Obama's.
George W. Bush and Obama are hard to tell apart for that matter, other than Bush was a little easier on the oil and gas industry.
There are pressures that basically mold almost any candidate into a pretty tight space once they take office. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are great examples. Obama campaigned on "change", but here we are still in Afghanistan chasing around ghosts. Iraq did end, but that seemed like it was more Iraq's idea than Obama's.
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Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
I predict steady, "boring" returns regardless of what happens in the Presidential race.
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Lone Wolf, I like your prediction! :)
I just saw this article by Jim Rickards:
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/eco ... y-policies
In part he says : "The United States needs to innovate, not cheapen, its way to export success. Romney should embrace the Reagan strong dollar model and reject the cheap dollar policies of Obama. If Romney sticks to the Obama cheap dollar policy, then the next election will guarantee increased inflation—regardless of who wins."
I just saw this article by Jim Rickards:
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/eco ... y-policies
In part he says : "The United States needs to innovate, not cheapen, its way to export success. Romney should embrace the Reagan strong dollar model and reject the cheap dollar policies of Obama. If Romney sticks to the Obama cheap dollar policy, then the next election will guarantee increased inflation—regardless of who wins."
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Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
Leaving test drives aside, let's compare these two cars...dualstow wrote:Leaving all milk content aside, let's compare these two cheeses...Reub wrote: Leaving all politics aside, which one of these 2 Presidential candidates do you think would add more value to the PP, Obama or Romney, or does it make a difference?
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Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
How about:
Leaving all physical, mental, and emotional aspects aside, which of these two women would make the better mother, lover, provider, and companion? Which woman would be more likely to insure future positive prospects for our household? Which woman would be more likely to keep a dog rather than eat it? Who would be the least likely to use smoke and mirrors to educate potential children? Who would be most likely to serve Vegisnacks (remember those?) to dinner friends? Who would be more likely to say "Where's the beef? (remember that one?) And so on, ad nauseum.
I think I'll vote for hope and change since from 2008 to now the "hope" part seems to have gone down the tubes and the "change" part is not for the better (just my humble opinion).
Leaving all physical, mental, and emotional aspects aside, which of these two women would make the better mother, lover, provider, and companion? Which woman would be more likely to insure future positive prospects for our household? Which woman would be more likely to keep a dog rather than eat it? Who would be the least likely to use smoke and mirrors to educate potential children? Who would be most likely to serve Vegisnacks (remember those?) to dinner friends? Who would be more likely to say "Where's the beef? (remember that one?) And so on, ad nauseum.
I think I'll vote for hope and change since from 2008 to now the "hope" part seems to have gone down the tubes and the "change" part is not for the better (just my humble opinion).
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Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
This is unknowable.Reub wrote: Leaving all politics aside, which one of these 2 Presidential candidates do you think would add more value to the PP, Obama or Romney, or does it make a difference?
Which is why I like the PP.
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Rickards suggests that it won't matter...as their policies are essentially the same
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/eco ... y-policies
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/eco ... y-policies
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Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
Obama.Reub wrote: Leaving all politics aside, which one of these 2 Presidential candidates do you think would add more value to the PP, Obama or Romney, or does it make a difference?
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Re: Who Would Be Better For The PP- Obama or Romney?
I don't know which candidate will add value to the PP. I don't think it matters. As others here have said, the position of President comes with certain built in bagage and expectation that are designed to further the interests of the American empire for good or ill or a, maybe, mixture of both. And within that framework, we all have our own policy preferences.
However, I did find this quote amusing:
“For we have entered the age of quantum politics; and Mitt Romney is the first quantum politician. In much the same way that light is both a particle and a wave, Mitt Romney is both a moderate and a conservative, depending on the situation. It is not that he is one or the other; it is not that he is one and then the other. He is both at the same time. No human being can ever simultaneously know both what Mitt Romney's current position is and where that position will be at some future date. According to the latest theories, the “Mitt Romney”? who seems poised to be the Republican nominee is but one of countless Mitt Romneys, each occupying his own cosmos, each supporting a different platform, all of them equally valid and all of them running for president at the same time, in their own alternative Romnealities, somewhere in the vast Romniverse. ...And all of them losing to Barack Obama.”?
Condensed from David Javerbaum, N.Y. Times, March 31
Of course, something similar could be said about Obama in terms of his caving to special monied interest, etc. I'm afraid it's the nature of the beast and goes with the territory. But the quote does remind me of "doublethink" from Orwell's 1984. And yes, I agree, with the prediction. Unless Obama falters or truly doesn't want the job- it's his for the taking.
However, I did find this quote amusing:
“For we have entered the age of quantum politics; and Mitt Romney is the first quantum politician. In much the same way that light is both a particle and a wave, Mitt Romney is both a moderate and a conservative, depending on the situation. It is not that he is one or the other; it is not that he is one and then the other. He is both at the same time. No human being can ever simultaneously know both what Mitt Romney's current position is and where that position will be at some future date. According to the latest theories, the “Mitt Romney”? who seems poised to be the Republican nominee is but one of countless Mitt Romneys, each occupying his own cosmos, each supporting a different platform, all of them equally valid and all of them running for president at the same time, in their own alternative Romnealities, somewhere in the vast Romniverse. ...And all of them losing to Barack Obama.”?
Condensed from David Javerbaum, N.Y. Times, March 31
Of course, something similar could be said about Obama in terms of his caving to special monied interest, etc. I'm afraid it's the nature of the beast and goes with the territory. But the quote does remind me of "doublethink" from Orwell's 1984. And yes, I agree, with the prediction. Unless Obama falters or truly doesn't want the job- it's his for the taking.
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