A place to talk about random things....

[Kriegsspiel]

I think some of those would be fine. I've used High Mowing (Vermont) before, this is what they have to say:

Colder temperatures (26-31F) may burn the foliage of, but will not kill, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, chard, lettuce, mustard, onion, radish, beets and leeks. In fact, some of these crops, as well as parsnips, Jerusalem artichokes and brussels sprouts actually produce the best flavor when they have had a touch of frost! link

[Kriegsspiel]

I would like to try Elderberry if anyone has had success growing it.

I'm also thinking about elderberry along one edge of my property. I like that it grows 6-8 ft high, I like the idea of an edible screen.

[shekels]

I would like to try Elderberry if anyone has had success growing it.

I'm also thinking about elderberry along one edge of my property. I like that it grows 6-8 ft high, I like the idea of an edible screen.

Edible and Drinkable Wine for treating colds of course.

[vnatale]

I only plant plants above ground. My main "crops" are all forms of lettuce, arugula, brussels spouts, tomatoes, peppers, various squash, broccoli, cauliflower. Don't plant anything with seeds or underground. Therefore, would not frost kill all above ground plants?

This is saying that I am in Zone 5b.

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Vinny

Do you start seeds Indoors until it is warm enough ?

Never.

Just like I like low maintenance pets I like low maintenance things to plant. Plus prior to this year I used to keep my house temperature at 56 degrees, not conducive to growing anything.

Vinny

[vnatale]

I think some of those would be fine. I've used High Mowing (Vermont) before, this is what they have to say:

Colder temperatures (26-31F) may burn the foliage of, but will not kill, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, chard, lettuce, mustard, onion, radish, beets and leeks. In fact, some of these crops, as well as parsnips, Jerusalem artichokes and brussels sprouts actually produce the best flavor when they have had a touch of frost! link

Thanks for that prior unknown to me information. By the way here is High Mowing's current status:

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[shekels]

Do you start seeds Indoors until it is warm enough ?

Never.

Just like I like low maintenance pets I like low maintenance things to plant. Plus prior to this year I used to keep my house temperature at 56 degrees, not conducive to growing anything.

Vinny

I have the house cool in the Winter here also.
But I due have a spare Bath tub I put a tray in to start seeds .
I covered the tub with a foam board and had a Light in it to keep the seeds warm.

[vnatale]

I have the house cool in the Winter here also.
But I due have a spare Bath tub I put a tray in to start seeds .
I covered the tub with a foam board and had a Light in it to keep the seeds warm.

Tell me if there is a flaw in this logic.

If I don't want to plant certain things, like tomato and pepper plants before all the possibilities are gone, I don't gain anything time-wise in terms of getting a head start in planting by growing them indoors, do I? I.e., I cannot plant them any earlier than the store bought ones?

Vinny

[Hal]

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Never.

Just like I like low maintenance pets I like low maintenance things to plant. Plus prior to this year I used to keep my house temperature at 56 degrees, not conducive to growing anything.

Vinny
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If you like low maintenance you might consider the permaculture method of growing. Eg with potatoes, just leave them on the top of the soil and cover with spoilt lucerne hay.

Thought this was great idea, but my ever polite grandmother pointed out they used to do this in the 1910s.
Whats old is new again....


https://www.permaculturenews.org/2017/0 ... n-5-steps/

[vnatale]

If you like low maintenance you might consider the permaculture method of growing. Eg with potatoes, just leave them on the top of the soil and cover with spoilt lucerne hay.

Thought this was great idea, but my ever polite grandmother pointed out they used to do this in the 1910s.
Whats old is new again....


https://www.permaculturenews.org/2017/0 ... n-5-steps/

I don't like doing high maintenance garden things like growing seeds which save me some money but not equal to the time it consumes plus gives me no other benefits.

ButI do engage in high initial maintenance with my soil. Using only 300 (?) year tools - a rake and a shovel - I move around tremendous amounts of dirt over many, many, many hours the last few weeks.

I'm consuming tons of time but there is the great side benefit of the exercise I'm getting in doing the hard work of pushing heavy, heavy dirt all over the place.

Much of it was moist with a lot of wet leaves at the bottom of it.

My garden is area is where all the snow on my driveway gets plowed into each winter. I thus have to first start attacking huge mounds of dirt to level it off and move it all from where it sits.

Vinny

[dualstow]

Very jealous of all these gardens! I grew basil and sunflowers when I had land to plant on. I also “grew” mint, but that was just harvesting what someone else had planted before me. It was basically a desirable weed.

Now I’ve got tiny flower beds with non-ebibles. No full sun.
“Poppa Cuomo.” :-)

Congrats on your thousandth, Smithers!

[vnatale]

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[vnatale]

Plus prior to this year I used to keep my house temperature at 56 degrees

Vinny

You walk around barefoot in a 56 degree house?

That would be the rest of the house except for this bedroom. I'm not standing still when I'm walking around so that is fine.

In this bedroom it would be between 75 and 80 degrees plus I'd have my feet (like now) on a foot warmer.

Vinny

[WiseOne]

Vinny you can absolutely plant cool weather loving plants now. If you have a hard freeze that would be an issue, but temps in the upper 30s/40s overnight are not a big deal as the soil won't get as cold. The fact that some plants were already growing nicely in the plot says I could have done this a few weeks ago. My sister lives not too far west of you, and she's planting now too.

I got a seed starter tray for my Aerogarden Sprout, which is a mini hydroponic garden that works great for herbs indoors and doubles as an undercounter light in the kitchen. It lets you start 15 seedlings and it gives them a big jump start. I've got lettuce and arugula in mine, and I'm planning to put those into the garden tomorrow. Then I'm going to start tomatoes and peppers in the Aerogarden. They'll go into the ground sometime in mid to late May.

[vnatale]

Vinny you can absolutely plant cool weather loving plants now. If you have a hard freeze that would be an issue, but temps in the upper 30s/40s overnight are not a big deal as the soil won't get as cold. The fact that some plants were already growing nicely in the plot says I could have done this a few weeks ago. My sister lives not too far west of you, and she's planting now too.

I got a seed starter tray for my Aerogarden Sprout, which is a mini hydroponic garden that works great for herbs indoors and doubles as an undercounter light in the kitchen. It lets you start 15 seedlings and it gives them a big jump start. I've got lettuce and arugula in mine, and I'm planning to put those into the garden tomorrow. Then I'm going to start tomatoes and peppers in the Aerogarden. They'll go into the ground sometime in mid to late May.

This morning I did wake up to snow, continual snow up until a while ago, and seeing accumulation! Seems, though, that is has gotten warmer as much that accumulated snow has melted.

What would have happened to the cool weather loving plants during this snow fall?

Vinny

[Smith1776]

This morning I did wake up to snow, continual snow up until a while ago, and seeing accumulation! Seems, though, that is has gotten warmer as much that accumulated snow has melted.

What would have happened to the cool weather loving plants during this snow fall?

Vinny

I want to wake up to snow... though I do not want to shovel it.

[Kriegsspiel]

It snowed here recently. I have some lettuce seeds growing in pots outside that I didn't bother moving indoors; didn't seem to affect them, but time will tell. I'm pretty hands-off with my plants.

[vnatale]

I went here and put in my zip code:
https://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze-frost-dates/

My results were:


Each winter, on average, your risk of frost is from September 26 through May 13.

Almost certainly, however, you will receive frost from October 9 through April 29.

You are almost guaranteed that you will not get frost from May 27 through September 13.

Your frost-free growing season is around 136 days.



What results do each of you get? I assume that more are longer than 136 days, none shorter?

Vinny

[Smith1776]

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[dualstow]

Now that is funny!

[Smith1776]

Now that is funny!

My goal for 2020.

[Tortoise]

I don't get it. Is it just a bad English translation?

[Xan]

I don't get it. Is it just a bad English translation?

Almost certainly yes, and probably machine-generated. My favorites are ones like these:

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[dualstow]

(useless but pretty) E0F64C90-9286-4D0E-B46D-5A3246DACA86.jpeg

P.S. I made it my mission to track down that penultimate character, 废, and it took me forever. (You know the traditional definition of 'putz' is time-waster. Trying to search phonetically or by visual elements failed, but I finally found success at Google Translate where they let me draw the damn thing, albeit horribly.

Chinese character input re:computing has come a long way.

[dualstow]

That's a good one, Xan.

If you guys enjoy those, you might go down the engrish rabbit hole at engrish dot com.

Oh, man. This one.


Caption reads: DEFINITELY NOT A LINCOLN

[Smith1776]

That's a good one, Xan.

If you guys enjoy those, you might go down the engrish rabbit hole at engrish dot com.

Oh, man. This one.


Caption reads: DEFINITELY NOT A LINCOLN

Pretty much my view of law enforcement after my traffic ticket fiasco.