US gun classifications explained. Funny, true, and sad.
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US gun classifications explained. Funny, true, and sad.
Here is a short video for both owners and non owners of guns, explaining how guns are classified by BATF. Because it's made in a cartoon format, you might think it is satire. But, it's all true. Even the shoestring having once been classified as a machine gun (see below for the ATF explanatory letter). Hopefully we can keep the discussion free of politics, since I posted it here for informational purposes. Non political reactions welcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nfCyhOX42g
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nfCyhOX42g
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Can I have a shotgun pistol?
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Does the lethality of the weapon change depending on whether the thing the boolits come out of is smooth or has rifling grooves inside of it? Like say that birds head gizmo, if the boolits thingy had spiral grooves, then what kind of gun would it be?
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Yes.I Shrugged wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:26 pm Does the lethality of the weapon change depending on whether the thing the boolits come out of is smooth or has rifling grooves inside of it? Like say that birds head gizmo, if the boolits thingy had spiral grooves, then what kind of gun would it be?
Rifling causes the boolit to spin, increasing stability, range and velocity retention.
This is why the infantry firepower in the civil war was magnitudes more devastating than the Napoleonic Wars or the Revolution. The muskets were rifled.
Personally i like the ATF. Those dumb morons call the thing below a pistol bwahahahaha.
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So this Judge gizmo fires shotgun shells. And the boolit boom thingy has grooves. But it has a pistol grip. Is it a shotgun, or a short barrelled shotgun, or just a pistol? What if I put one of those butt stock contraptions onto it to make it easier to shoot tin cans with? It'd be a lot harder to conceal that way, but that wouldn't be my intention. So then what would it be, a short barreled rifled shotgun pistol?
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And why is it a pistol, and not a short barreled rifle which is exactly what it looks like? The video didn't explain that. And what calibers of boolits is a pistol like that available in?SomeDude wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:33 pmYes.I Shrugged wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:26 pm Does the lethality of the weapon change depending on whether the thing the boolits come out of is smooth or has rifling grooves inside of it? Like say that birds head gizmo, if the boolits thingy had spiral grooves, then what kind of gun would it be?
Rifling causes the boolit to spin, increasing stability, range and velocity retention.
This is why the infantry firepower in the civil war was magnitudes more devastating than the Napoleonic Wars or the Revolution. The muskets were rifled.
Personally i like the ATF. Those dumb morons call the thing below a pistol bwahahahaha.
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You know how airline check in counters have a box for checking the size of carry on bags? Could they just do something like that for all these guns? If it fits inside this box, it's a handgun. If it doesn't fit inside this box, it's a long gun. If it folds or telescopes, check it at its smallest size. No tax stamps needed for any of them.
In all seriousness, would not that be a good fix for gun owners?
In all seriousness, would not that be a good fix for gun owners?
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You should try living in Australia.....
Received a letter from the police that my 1887 lever action shotgun in now "a weapon of mass destruction". It's been classified in with machine guns and the letter states if I sell this old shotgun, I will NEVER be able to purchase a replacement.
The nice old gun is so heavy, I think it would be more deadly as a club
None of that new fangled stainless steel on this baby.....
Received a letter from the police that my 1887 lever action shotgun in now "a weapon of mass destruction". It's been classified in with machine guns and the letter states if I sell this old shotgun, I will NEVER be able to purchase a replacement.
The nice old gun is so heavy, I think it would be more deadly as a club
None of that new fangled stainless steel on this baby.....
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NIce!Hal wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:04 pm You should try living in Australia.....
Received a letter from the police that my 1887 lever action shotgun in now "a weapon of mass destruction". It's been classified in with machine guns and the letter states if I sell this old shotgun, I will NEVER be able to purchase a replacement.
The nice old gun is so heavy, I think it would be more deadly as a club
None of that new fangled stainless steel on this baby.....
So what makes it a WMD?
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Any lever or pump action on a shotgun = WMDI Shrugged wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:14 pmNIce!Hal wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:04 pm You should try living in Australia.....
Received a letter from the police that my 1887 lever action shotgun in now "a weapon of mass destruction". It's been classified in with machine guns and the letter states if I sell this old shotgun, I will NEVER be able to purchase a replacement.
The nice old gun is so heavy, I think it would be more deadly as a club
None of that new fangled stainless steel on this baby.....
So what makes it a WMD?
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It's not a rifle because it doesn't have a stock. It has a "hand brace" lol.I Shrugged wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:47 pmAnd why is it a pistol, and not a short barreled rifle which is exactly what it looks like? The video didn't explain that. And what calibers of boolits is a pistol like that available in?SomeDude wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:33 pmYes.I Shrugged wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 4:26 pm Does the lethality of the weapon change depending on whether the thing the boolits come out of is smooth or has rifling grooves inside of it? Like say that birds head gizmo, if the boolits thingy had spiral grooves, then what kind of gun would it be?
Rifling causes the boolit to spin, increasing stability, range and velocity retention.
This is why the infantry firepower in the civil war was magnitudes more devastating than the Napoleonic Wars or the Revolution. The muskets were rifled.
Personally i like the ATF. Those dumb morons call the thing below a pistol bwahahahaha.
ALL calibers from 9mm to .308 at least. Big time hunting rifle calibers.....out of a "pistol".
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lolHal wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 5:51 amAny lever or pump action on a shotgun = WMDI Shrugged wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:14 pmNIce!Hal wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 9:04 pm You should try living in Australia.....
Received a letter from the police that my 1887 lever action shotgun in now "a weapon of mass destruction". It's been classified in with machine guns and the letter states if I sell this old shotgun, I will NEVER be able to purchase a replacement.
The nice old gun is so heavy, I think it would be more deadly as a club
None of that new fangled stainless steel on this baby.....
So what makes it a WMD?
I own an Australian weapon of mass destruction.
COME AT ME ALL YOU ANTI-FREEDOM "SHOULD YOU BE ABLE TO OWN A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION" LOSERS
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If you want to see strange and conflicting you have to see what is allowed here in nyc …. A ruger 10/22 with the standard clip is on the banned list
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Too many boolits I am guessing?mathjak107 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 4:30 am If you want to see strange and conflicting you have to see what is allowed here in nyc …. A ruger 10/22 with the standard clip is on the banned list
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The Ruger 10/22 is favored by Israeli military snipers. They used the standard one (10 round capacity, I Shrugged), but it looks like they've upgraded to a higher capacity version.
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i have the 10/22 target version with the bull barrel , 5 shot clip thoughKriegsspiel wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:55 am The Ruger 10/22 is favored by Israeli military snipers. They used the standard one (10 round capacity, I Shrugged), but it looks like they've upgraded to a higher capacity version.
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Do liberals call magazines "clips" on purpose to annoy regular Americans? As a life long Democrat maybe you can help me with that one.tomfoolery wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 5:01 pm Why would anyone need more than 5 round clips? How many deer are you trying to kill simultaneously with your 10/22?
I suppose it's like when i deliberately confuse star trek and star wars to annoy nerds.
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You never know when an oil truck may get in the way .tomfoolery wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 5:01 pm Why would anyone need more than 5 round clips? How many deer are you trying to kill simultaneously with your 10/22?
Actually it is not legal to hunt deer here with a .22 ..
When target shooting ,five shots is a pain to deal with as you constantly have waste time reloading since the range officers time each shooting cycle before everyone gets to check their targets and walk out in the field …..
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The problem we originally had is the ranges were in Long Island where 10 shots were allowed but in nyc the 10 round mags are banned from ownership. Just us city riff raff had 5 shot magstomfoolery wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 12:32 pmPeople say liberals are not reasonable and I want to prove them wrong. I see your concern about small clip size. So I propose three solutions:mathjak107 wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:22 amWhen target shooting ,five shots is a pain to deal with as you constantly have waste time reloading since the range officers time each shooting cycle before everyone gets to check their targets and walk out in the field …..tomfoolery wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 5:01 pm Why would anyone need more than 5 round clips? How many deer are you trying to kill simultaneously with your 10/22?
1) We have the range officers increase the time between shooting cycles so you have more time to load clips.
2) You can have high capacity clips but they can only be used at the gun range and must be locked up and secured at the gun range in their vault between use.
3) The gun range can rent out high capacity clips for your range session and they get returned to their vault after secured inside the range facilities.
See, three easy solutions to let gun owners have their fun but limiting weapons of war on our streets where children play.