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Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:33 pm
by Cortopassi
flyingpylon wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:08 pm
mathjak107 wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:47 am
My sentiments exactly in this article

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid ... d-covid-19
That article looked at vitamin D as a “cure”. I haven’t really seen anyone suggest that. But I have seen people suggest that D is an important immunity booster and that the hardest hit victims of COVID had low levels of D.

I supplement vitamin D and I have not gotten COVID so my n=1 result is that it must work great.

Don’t worry, I know it’s not conclusive evidence of anything. Just saying.

I’ve always understood that the best form of vitamin D is the kind your body makes with exposure to the sun. So good for you Vinny, you’re doing it right.
I heard a doctor on the radio a couple weeks ago on vitamin D, and what he said made some sense -- that it wasn't clear if low Vitamin D levels are correlated to more easily getting Covid, or not.

Meaning, Covid could possibly have a side effect to lower Vitamin D in your body as part of what happens during the infection, not that you got Covid because your D levels were low. They could have been normal. Not enough studies it seems.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:40 pm
by Mark Leavy
flyingpylon wrote:
Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:08 pm

I’ve always understood that the best form of vitamin D is the kind your body makes with exposure to the sun. So good for you Vinny, you’re doing it right.
It doesn't work if you don't eat your eggs. Maybe :)

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:30 pm
by SomeDude
Does anyone know anyone who is actually really sick from Covid? Testing positive doesn't count as sick, nor does a headache or sniffles. I'm talking hospital or life impacting (can't work or do things) sick.

Other people from the interwebs don't count. If someone here says they are sick that doesn't mean you all know someone lol. Very few us even know someone's real name here.

I have yet to even meet in real life someone who said they were ever sick.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:14 pm
by Smith1776
Many. Some of them are my coworkers. Some are family members of my coworkers.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:21 pm
by Cortopassi
I'm having dejavu, somedude? Was this just a way to pop this topic back to the top, just restating the original?

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:38 pm
by pp4me
Cortopassi wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:21 pm
I'm having dejavu, somedude? Was this just a way to pop this topic back to the top, just restating the original?
Probably was and my answer is still the same as before. I don't known anyone who has even gotten the virus, let alone got very sick from it. The closest I came was a barber who said she knew someone.

To which I say, so what? Doesn't prove anything. I didn't know anybody who had polio either.

If the implication is that COVID is a hoax it has to be the most successful one in the history of the world.

Maybe Mathjak and the others here are part of the grand conspiracy.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:49 pm
by Cortopassi
pp4me wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:38 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:21 pm
I'm having dejavu, somedude? Was this just a way to pop this topic back to the top, just restating the original?
Probably was and my answer is still the same as before. I don't known anyone who has even gotten the virus, let alone got very sick from it. The closest I came was a barber who said she knew someone.

To which I say, so what? Doesn't prove anything. I didn't know anybody who had polio either.

If the implication is that COVID is a hoax it has to be the most successful one in the history of the world.

Maybe Mathjak and the others here are part of the grand conspiracy.
Exactly!

Which is why I am not understanding SD's inability to just let this go. There was and is a virus, it was bad for a lot of people, but in a country of 330M, it's easy to not know someone who got deathly ill. It proves nothing.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:59 pm
by SomeDude
pp4me wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:38 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:21 pm
I'm having dejavu, somedude? Was this just a way to pop this topic back to the top, just restating the original?
Probably was and my answer is still the same as before. I don't known anyone who has even gotten the virus, let alone got very sick from it. The closest I came was a barber who said she knew someone.

To which I say, so what? Doesn't prove anything. I didn't know anybody who had polio either.
If no one knows anyone who is sick........might it suggest we are well past the worst of it?

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 pm
by Vil
Even we took the utmost care my wife and I got it and still recovering. It was/is the British variant and is extremely unpleasant to put it very very mildly. Your post show complete lack of understanding and respect on the matter, sorry to say it. I was waiting for one of my lung X-rays and next to me was an old man repeating "I cant breathe".. Believe it or not, hearing such things with your own ears is a game changer. And no, I do not care what you think about Wuhans, Bill Gates conspiracy, martians involvement in all that.. because I have seen it with my eyes and felt with my body, so there is someone out there I really trust ...

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:01 pm
by SomeDude
pp4me wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:38 pm
I didn't know anybody who had polio either.
I didn't know anyone was claiming there is a polio pandemic.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:03 pm
by pp4me
SomeDude wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:59 pm
pp4me wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:38 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:21 pm
I'm having dejavu, somedude? Was this just a way to pop this topic back to the top, just restating the original?
Probably was and my answer is still the same as before. I don't known anyone who has even gotten the virus, let alone got very sick from it. The closest I came was a barber who said she knew someone.

To which I say, so what? Doesn't prove anything. I didn't know anybody who had polio either.
If no one knows anyone who is sick........might it suggest we are well past the worst of it?
Hope so, but I didn't know anybody who had it when it was peaking either. So like I said, this kind of anecdotal observation doesn't prove anything.

Do you think it does?

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:06 pm
by Vil
And by the way I know many people that got it too, guess you are lucky enough to have vaccination in advanced stage in US and also people not treating 20 centimeters as proper "social distancing" as many guys here in Southern Europe consider it...

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:14 pm
by SomeDude
Vil wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 pm
Your post show complete lack of understanding and respect on the matter, sorry to say it.
This is the internet. If you need every post prefaced with preapologies to anyone who might have experienced covid or know someone who experienced it before being asked if you know anyone who is sick....... then the internet might not be the place for you.

I'm glad you and your wife are recovering and that it was only extremely unpleasant.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:22 pm
by mathjak107
pp4me wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:38 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:21 pm
I'm having dejavu, somedude? Was this just a way to pop this topic back to the top, just restating the original?
Probably was and my answer is still the same as before. I don't known anyone who has even gotten the virus, let alone got very sick from it. The closest I came was a barber who said she knew someone.

To which I say, so what? Doesn't prove anything. I didn't know anybody who had polio either.

If the implication is that COVID is a hoax it has to be the most successful one in the history of the world.

Maybe Mathjak and the others here are part of the grand conspiracy.
Yeah I am part of the conspiracy...no one is really buried in the graves of my friends and family members who died from covid and my hospital stay and my wife’s was a hoax

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:26 pm
by Vil
SomeDude wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:14 pm
Vil wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 pm
Your post show complete lack of understanding and respect on the matter, sorry to say it.
This is the internet. If you need every post prefaced with preapologies to anyone who might have experienced covid or know someone who experienced it before being asked if you know anyone who is sick....... then the internet might not be the place for you.

I'm glad you and your wife are recovering and that it was only extremely unpleasant.
Ok, my post was a bit too rude maybe, apologies. But this crappy virus is awful, my opinion cannot be changed ..

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:45 pm
by Cortopassi
Vil wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:26 pm
SomeDude wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:14 pm
Vil wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 pm
Your post show complete lack of understanding and respect on the matter, sorry to say it.
This is the internet. If you need every post prefaced with preapologies to anyone who might have experienced covid or know someone who experienced it before being asked if you know anyone who is sick....... then the internet might not be the place for you.

I'm glad you and your wife are recovering and that it was only extremely unpleasant.
Ok, my post was a bit too rude maybe, apologies. But this crappy virus is awful, my opinion cannot be changed ..
You absolutely do not need to apologize. SD comes from a point of view that the virus is significantly overblown if not outright a sham (search SD's posts if necessary). That we actually have multiple people on this board tell him point blank they had it, and were hospitalized or it was really bad in some form or fashion and SD still comes back and nudges and tweaks and insinuates that it is BS is.... BS.

Sorry, admins, if this is getting too close to a personal attack.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:58 pm
by SomeDude
Vil wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:26 pm
SomeDude wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:14 pm
Vil wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:00 pm
Your post show complete lack of understanding and respect on the matter, sorry to say it.
This is the internet. If you need every post prefaced with preapologies to anyone who might have experienced covid or know someone who experienced it before being asked if you know anyone who is sick....... then the internet might not be the place for you.

I'm glad you and your wife are recovering and that it was only extremely unpleasant.
Ok, my post was a bit too rude maybe, apologies. But this crappy virus is awful, my opinion cannot be changed ..
I'm not looking to change any opinions, but just seeing if anyone still knows anyone who is sick. Between vaccines and lockdowns and the numbers of positive tests dropping, just seeing if people still know of anyone who is sick. Neither my wife or i do nor does anyone I've asked. And we have people in FL, NY, MI, AZ. My wife said her best friend in colorado tested positive but only felt sick for a day or two and was travelling extensively. Not odd for someone traveling all over the country to feel sick for a day or two.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:59 pm
by WiseOne
SomeDude, I really appreciate the perspective you have been bringing to the forum.

But...I must say, didn't we already answer your question when you first posed it?

My answer had to do with the people currently in the hospital that I work at. There's genuine COVID cases there I assure you.

There's also my housecleaner's mother in law. She's in the hospital, intubated, and not expected to survive. She is 65, is obese and has diabetes, so she's kind of the poster child for a severe COVID case. The rest of the family (including my housecleaner) are fine.

Oh, and my mother's best friend. She had it and was sick at home, but didn't require hospitalization. But, a couple of her friends from work did, and they died.

And, the resident manager of my coop...she's been a dragon about enforcing COVID restrictions in the buildings, but it's understandable. Because she lost her husband to COVID.

I said this before and it's worth repeating: yes, covid is real. Yes, it's a particular danger to certain segments of the population. That's not the question. The question is how we should respond to it, and on that score you and I mostly agree. For example, I'm totally enjoying the fact that cases are going down in Texas, 4 weeks after the mask mandate was lifted. So much for that idea!!!!! The method I would have preferred is an effort to deal with the COVID risk factors. Like, buy everyone stashes of vitamin D, set up free weight loss clinics utilizing a low carb approach (i.e. the one that works), make an extra effort to treat diabetes with diet & glucose control etc. All better uses of $$ than that dang vaccine, I would bet.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:08 pm
by Cortopassi
What she said...^^^^

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:10 pm
by mathjak107
Yeah what she said

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:37 pm
by Maddy
Excuse me if I'm putting words in anyone's mouth, but I don't believe that anyone here has taken the position that the virus is "B.S." The issue is whether this "awful" virus has created such a dire, worldwide emergency as to justify the torpedoing of the U.S. economy, the destruction of nearly half of small business, the loss of countless lives and livelihoods due to the secondary effects of shut-downs, the mental and emotional toll exacted on families (most particularly the elderly and children), the evisceration of the currency, the impoverishing of the middle and lower classes, the creation of a permanent welfare class of previously employed people, and the unprecedented infringement upon basic civil liberties from which there is unlikely to be any return.

What's B.S. is that this virus isn't "awful" enough to deter the administration from inviting hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens--9 percent of which test positive for CoVid--from streaming across the southern border. What's B.S. is that mask mandates and recreational restrictions are being touted as necessary to effectuate the "resetting" of social and economic norms. What's B.S. is that the proclaimed pandemic has effectively ushered in nearly every one of the autocratic objectives that Klaus Schwab and his ilk have been talking about for decades. What's B.S. is that the virus has been a cash cow for the usual suspects, and that it has brought unprecedented wealth, power, and control to the "one percent."

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:39 pm
by mathjak107
All i think is without the reaction we saw deaths would have run millions more with hundreds thousands or even a few more million hospitalized..left unchecked this thing can be incredibly wicked to many ,with permanent effects even if you aren’t hospitalized

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:42 pm
by SomeDude
WiseOne wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:59 pm
SomeDude, I really appreciate the perspective you have been bringing to the forum.

But...I must say, didn't we already answer your question when you first posed it?
I'm posing it again WiseOne because weeks or a month has passed and we've seen states opening up against government push back, vaccines for pretty much anyone over 40 or who is overweight or otherwise at increased risk, and even official numbers of "active" cases plunging. I'm just wondering if people on here know people still who are actually sick now. Very few said yes a month ago. Some people said they knew someone who had been sick or knew someone who knew someone.

I'm sure at some point no one will know anyone who is sick from it. I might ask again in another month.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm
by Maddy
What the statistics show, consistently, is that had the overweight and obese population simply lost weight, the vast majority of deaths and serious complications could have been avoided. The sad truth is that these people are well on the way to killing themselves anyway.

For this they destroyed our economy, our currency, our liberty, and our future.

Re: Does anyone om know anyone that is even sick?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:25 am
by mathjak107
Maddy wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm
What the statistics show, consistently, is that had the overweight and obese population simply lost weight, the vast majority of deaths and serious complications could have been avoided. The sad truth is that these people are well on the way to killing themselves anyway.

For this they destroyed our economy, our currency, our liberty, and our future.
You can’t even say that ..some of the most unhealthiest people are just chugging along fine with no covid