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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by Smith1776 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:35 am

The excellent Marques Brownlee review of the new M1 m̶o̶r̶t̶a̶r̶ Macbook is now live!


https://youtu.be/f4g2nPY-VZc
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by Dieter » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:58 pm

sophie wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:08 pm
Thanks for the assessment Smith!

I'd heard about this, but now I'm really excited to try this out. I had delayed replacing my laptop, but it's now really starting to show its age (it's a 2013). Gaming isn't my issue but I do need to run some intense mathematical software on large datasets. My current laptop just plain can't do it.

On the todolist....along with a ton of other things but hope to order new macbook pro soon. It's only the 13" that has the M1 chip, right? That's the size I want, as it happens.
Not sure if you are aware, but generally the best sales for Apple computers are the day after Thanksgiving.

10 days to make a decision.

No pressure. :)
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by Dieter » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:44 pm

Definitely has me thinking about getting a laptop. Currently just have an old 2012 Mac Mini that is fine for most things, but shared with others and likely to be off helping my dad more.

10 days till the expected Apple sale to figure out if I go iPad or MacBook, Air or Pro.

I foresee spending way to much time reading reviews and user reports until then....

Pro differences vs Air, $300.00 gets you:

* Better performance:
- Better cooling (Fan)
- Faster SSD? (Ugh, I thought I saw a benchmark, but can't find it right now; not a major difference)
- Better GPU - 8 vs 7 cores vs entry level Air

* Brighter Screen (500 vs 400 nits)

* Longer battery life (+2 hours listed)

* Better speakers and mic
(TBD on the speaker; Apple site lists differently; MacRumors review says the same)

* Touch Bar on Pro, not Air (any opinions on this?)

* Faster charging (?)

Air does offer the Gold color option and is a little lighter; probably quieter (and warmer) without a fan.

Any other diffs I'm missing?

https://www.macrumors.com/guide/apple-s ... cbook-pro/

[Edit: I think the main reason I'd consider the Pro is screen brightness, although nothing concrete that the 25% increase in brightness would matter to me]
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by Mark Leavy » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:40 am

I'm seriously looking at the Air right now. I like the "no fan" even though it may mean that I might be thermally throttled at times.

Load it up with memory and disk storage...
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by Mark Leavy » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:32 am

Dieter wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:44 pm
* Touch Bar on Pro, not Air (any opinions on this?)
The Touch Bar will compete with the Edsel for the worst design flaw in American history.
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

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Mark Leavy wrote:
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* Touch Bar on Pro, not Air (any opinions on this?)
The Touch Bar will compete with the Edsel for the worst design flaw in American history.
I have a MacBook Pro, 2018. Touch bar is basically worthless for my needs. Rarely use it for anything other than adjusting speaker volume.
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by dualstow » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:35 am

Dieter wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:44 pm
Definitely has me thinking about getting a laptop. Currently just have an old 2012 Mac Mini

Mac minis are what I use. Extended keyboard, mouse made of wood, magic desktop trackpad.

I should use my old Mac mini for some fun project.
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by pmward » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:49 am

The CPU is the same in the Air and the Pro. Do you need the better GPU for anything like video editing or gaming? Are you doing any large tasks on it that require the cooling? Most of the population would be a no to both. For average daily use (internet, streaming, Office, etc) the Air would be the much better fit.

I've also put some consideration, whenever I do actually update my MacBook, into potentially going the iPad Pro route. But the iPad Pro is actually more expensive when you add the keyboard and everything into the mix. Until the prices go down there, I would still probably tend to lean MacBook Air. Not to mention that while the iPad Pro would be basically the best portable streaming video player on the planet, iPad itself is still more limited than a MacBook in a lot of ways. Like, I would never even think of attempting to code on an iPad, even with a keyboard, lol.
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by Smith1776 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:18 pm

I am still on a 2015 15" Macbook Pro (purchased in 2016). Going on 4 years and don't currently see a need to upgrade. Though the new Apple silicon definitely has me questioning what otherwise would have been a planned move away from Apple's high prices. Right now that M1 chip has made Macbooks a phenomenal value, even without a change to their lineup's overall pricing structure.

I am just thankful that I bought this laptop before apple "upgraded" the line to those horrific 1st gen butterfly keyboards. That's another story though.
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

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Smith1776 wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:18 pm
I am still on a 2015 15" Macbook Pro (purchased in 2016). Going on 4 years and don't currently see a need to upgrade. Though the new Apple silicon definitely has me questioning what otherwise would have been a planned move away from Apple's high prices. Right now that M1 chip has made Macbooks a phenomenal value, even without a change to their lineup's overall pricing structure.

I am just thankful that I bought this laptop before apple "upgraded" the line to those horrific 1st gen butterfly keyboards. That's another story though.
Those keyboards are indeed horrific! I still have a mid-2009 MacBook Pro - drastically better keyboard. Much of what I type on the 2018 MBP has errors that take a lot of time and effort to fix - way more problematic than the 2009.
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by Mark Leavy » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:52 pm

dualstow wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:35 am
Mac minis are what I use. Extended keyboard, mouse made of wood, magic desktop trackpad.
Sounds ideal for a home machine. I'm imagining a couple of giant monitors with that. Probably wouldn't fit very well in my pack.
Nice setup, though.
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Re: New Macs With M1 Chips

Post by Smith1776 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:10 pm

If only the M1 Mac mini supported 3 displays, then I would be sold. Alas, maybe the next generation.
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