Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

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Re: Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

Post by I Shrugged » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:12 pm

I imagine there won’t be a get out of jail free card. I think by early summer the vaccine will be widespread, cases dwindling to very low numbers, and they will declare victory.
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Re: Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

Post by tomfoolery » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:35 pm

I won’t get it. Don’t want to risk it. The potential risk of covid is far less to me than the potential side effects of a poorly tested, quickly produced vaccine.

If we need to have documentation showing we got the vaccine for whatever reason, well, a piece of paper is a piece of paper. So...
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Re: Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

Post by Maddy » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:22 am

For those of you who say you will take the vaccine: How many of you actually have any idea what this "vaccine" consists of? How many have any idea how it will work? (No fair researching it now.) Considering that a number of different products and technologies are being prepared for market (some of them having nothing to do with the traditional concept of "vaccine"), does your decision to accept "the vaccine" represent your consent to whatever technology happens to be mandated, or to be made available, first?
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Re: Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

Post by sophie » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:07 am

I Shrugged wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:12 pm
I imagine there won’t be a get out of jail free card. I think by early summer the vaccine will be widespread, cases dwindling to very low numbers, and they will declare victory.
This is exactly what I'm expecting too. Except, it will take a LONG time for the positive test results (remember it's that and NOT cases) to dwindle, and there's a point below which they will never dwindle. That's because a proportion of the tests will be false positives, and another fraction of the positive results will be due to past infection (e.g. months previously). We don't know what this is but it could easily be a couple of percent - and it is likely to grow over time. So it could be a very long lag between the start of distribution of the vaccine and Biden declaring victory. And, I expect the virus to resurface every flu season just like it's doing now, so the whole deal with lockdowns and mask mandates may recur each winter for years.

Pug, the answer to your question about employer vaccine mandate is yes, although it has not been tested in court. I guess they figure no one is going to court over the flu vaccine, but COVID may be a different story. We'll see.
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Re: Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

Post by Kriegsspiel » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:00 am

I would be glad to donate my vaccination shot to a minority (I'm thinking disabled lesbian) in exchange for my veneration by society and the proper credentials to go about my life as if I had gotten it myself, instead of valiantly checking my privilege.
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Re: Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

Post by pugchief » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:08 am

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:00 am
I would be glad to donate my vaccination shot to a minority (I'm thinking disabled lesbian) in exchange for my veneration by society and the proper credentials to go about my life as if I had gotten it myself, instead of valiantly checking my privilege.
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Re: Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

Post by vnatale » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:17 pm

I have yet to get a regular flu shot in my life.

Last year my doctor convinced me to get one but they failed to flag me on my way out to get it then. I was never sufficiently motivated to make the five minute walk back there from my office to get one.

Same for this year so far. I can get one in the supermarket but not been sufficiently motivated to take the time to do so.

Probably will not get that one since I live such an isolated life these days.

As far as the virus shot goes? It depends where things stand both in my area and my life. If I'm going back to playing basketball and and softball and being in crowds for live music, definitely yes. If I'm still only off my property briefly once every three weeks...then probably no.

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Re: Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

Post by Mountaineer » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:31 am

vnatale wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:17 pm
I have yet to get a regular flu shot in my life.

Last year my doctor convinced me to get one but they failed to flag me on my way out to get it then. I was never sufficiently motivated to make the five minute walk back there from my office to get one.

Same for this year so far. I can get one in the supermarket but not been sufficiently motivated to take the time to do so.

Probably will not get that one since I live such an isolated life these days.

As far as the virus shot goes? It depends where things stand both in my area and my life. If I'm going back to playing basketball and and softball and being in crowds for live music, definitely yes. If I'm still only off my property briefly once every three weeks...then probably no.

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Who is planning on getting vaccinated for Covid-19?

Post by glennds » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:07 pm

I listened to Dr. Fauci on Face the Nation this morning. Looking ahead, he talked about the two vaccines that have made it through trials with 90%+ efficacy rates, with others hopefully on the way. The ultimate public health strategy of a vaccine is for wide enough adoption to allow for herd immunity. Thus far only 5% or so of the US population has contracted Covid, so we would have a really long way to go if getting herd immunity naturally was the goal without a vaccine.

So two issues arise, one being the logistics of vaccine distribution and administration. The other being acceptance.

I think the logistics would eventually be worked out one way or another. They're talking about cost to the recipient being minimal or zero.
But given the politicization and controversy over masks, I have no idea what the acceptance level might be for receiving the vaccine at all.

What is your position?
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Re: Who is planning on getting vaccinated for Covid-19?

Post by Mountaineer » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:50 pm

I haven’t decided yet. Nurses in my family and friends say they won’t unless mandated, in which case they could quit rather than be vaccinated; can take 10-12 years to understand long term consequences, e.g. Guillin-Barre paralysis, for new antivirals.
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Re: Who is planning on getting vaccinated for Covid-19?

Post by Tortoise » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:51 pm

A thread with almost exactly the same title already exists:

https://www.gyroscopicinvesting.com/for ... hp?t=11504
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Re: Who is planning on getting vaccinated for Covid-19?

Post by glennds » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:58 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:51 pm
A thread with almost exactly the same title already exists:

https://www.gyroscopicinvesting.com/for ... hp?t=11504
Sorry, didn't realize that. I'll see if the moderator can delete this thread.
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