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The Tom & Doodle Podcast. Who’s In?

Post by tomfoolery » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:10 am

For those of you who have listened to the Harry Browne political radio show archive, you may have fond memory of a frequent caller, who sounded like an older black man, named Eugene. And Eugene would constantly ask HB stuff like “well if you got rid of the FDA, then drug companies would poison children to make a profit!’ And HB would sigh and explain that’s not how it would work.

I think Doodle is our Eugene and it might be fun for the two of us to have a podcast discussing politics.

What do you guys think? Also, does anyone else remember Eugene? Bonus, can anyone post a link to an archive where these episodes still live? The last link I saw on here was broken.
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Post by I Shrugged » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:26 am

Hal wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:19 am
Here -> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzu55W ... QIQ/videos
Excellent Hal!
That's only the money show. Any similar channel for the political one?
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Post by doodle » Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:41 am

You mentioned the FDA...why was it created in the first place over 100 years ago? As far as I can tell it was to address and rein in long-standing, serious abuses in the consumer product marketplace. My guess without knowing too much about its history is that it was probably the reaction to public outcry to corporations being less than honest and open about the contents and safety of their products. Perhaps the institution needs to be amended somewhat but to pretend that eliminating it entirely will solve all our problems is negating the reasons for its creation in the first place.
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Re: The Tom & Doodle Podcast. Who’s In?

Post by vnatale » Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:58 pm

doodle wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:41 am
You mentioned the FDA...why was it created in the first place over 100 years ago? As far as I can tell it was to address and rein in long-standing, serious abuses in the consumer product marketplace. My guess without knowing too much about its history is that it was probably the reaction to public outcry to corporations being less than honest and open about the contents and safety of their products. Perhaps the institution needs to be amended somewhat but to pretend that eliminating it entirely will solve all our problems is negating the reasons for its creation in the first place.

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An ardent activist, champion of political reform, novelist, and progressive journalist, Upton Sinclair is perhaps best known today for The Jungle — his devastating exposé of the meat-packing industry. A protest novel he privately published in 1906, the book was a shocking revelation of intolerable labor practices and unsanitary working conditions in the Chicago stockyards. It quickly became a bestseller, arousing public sentiment and resulting in such federal legislation as the Pure Food and Drug Act.|The brutally grim story of a Slavic family who emigrates to America, The Jungle tells of their rapid and inexorable descent into numbing poverty, moral degradation, and social and economic despair. Vulnerable and isolated, the family of Jurgis Rudkus struggles — unsuccessfully — to survive in an urban jungle.
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The scene I still remember from reading it over 50 years ago is when one of the workers fell into the vat and just became part of the product!

Also, reading the book made me quite interested in the work of the "muckrakers". I was 16 or 17 years old when I read the book.

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Post by sophie » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:32 pm

I Shrugged wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:26 am
Hal wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:19 am
Here -> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzu55W ... QIQ/videos
Excellent Hal!
That's only the money show. Any similar channel for the political one?
There's "The Five" on Fox News, with a couple of guys, a couple of intelligent Playboy bunnies, and of course the token black Democrat guy presenting the liberal point of view so that the others can pummel him. I hope he's paid well for what he has to deal with every day.
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Post by tomfoolery » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:07 pm

sophie wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:32 pm
I Shrugged wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:26 am
Hal wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:19 am
Here -> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzu55W ... QIQ/videos
Excellent Hal!
That's only the money show. Any similar channel for the political one?
There's "The Five" on Fox News, with a couple of guys, a couple of intelligent Playboy bunnies, and of course the token black Democrat guy presenting the liberal point of view so that the others can pummel him. I hope he's paid well for what he has to deal with every day.

I have never seen that show, but in my mind, the Tom and Doodle podcast wouldn’t be about me hammering doodle. Harry Browne never called Eugene stupid or belittled him. It sometimes because an animated conversation but never insulting and always respectful.

The goal is to change minds, not further polarize. If I belittled doodle then my previous libertarian supporters would cheer while any on-the-fence liberals would despise me and further solidify them in the liberal camp.
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Re: The Tom & Doodle Podcast. Who’s In?

Post by technovelist » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:38 pm

sophie wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:32 pm
I Shrugged wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:26 am
Hal wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:19 am
Here -> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzu55W ... QIQ/videos
Excellent Hal!
That's only the money show. Any similar channel for the political one?
There's "The Five" on Fox News, with a couple of guys, a couple of intelligent Playboy bunnies, and of course the token black Democrat guy presenting the liberal point of view so that the others can pummel him. I hope he's paid well for what he has to deal with every day.
For those who haven't seen "The Five", I'm pretty sure Juan Williams (the token black Democrat) is at least mostly an actor who is paid to recite the Democrat talking points. I'm not sure he actually believes any of that.

He used to fill in for Bill O'Reilly on occasion, and when he did that he sounded JUST LIKE O'Reilly. So was he lying then, or is he lying now? Or is he an actor?

Also, the way they "pummel" him is by pointing out his idiocies, which again are just recitations of the daily talking points. They don't really attack him personally.
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Post by l82start » Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:39 pm

sophie wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:32 pm
I Shrugged wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:26 am
Hal wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:19 am
Here -> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzu55W ... QIQ/videos
Excellent Hal!
That's only the money show. Any similar channel for the political one?
There's "The Five" on Fox News, with a couple of guys, a couple of intelligent Playboy bunnies, and of course the token black Democrat guy presenting the liberal point of view so that the others can pummel him. I hope he's paid well for what he has to deal with every day.
is he referring to harry browns political show? i downloaded a lot of HB mp3's a long time ago but i don't recall if it was one show or two...
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Re: The Tom & Doodle Podcast. Who’s In?

Post by I Shrugged » Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:02 pm

Yes, and they were separate shows.

They are listed here, but apparently there is nothing behind the links.
http://harrybrowne.org/Archives/Archives.htm
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Re: The Tom & Doodle Podcast. Who’s In?

Post by doodle » Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:27 pm

tomfoolery wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:07 pm
sophie wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:32 pm
I Shrugged wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:26 am
Hal wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:19 am
Here -> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzu55W ... QIQ/videos
Excellent Hal!
That's only the money show. Any similar channel for the political one?
There's "The Five" on Fox News, with a couple of guys, a couple of intelligent Playboy bunnies, and of course the token black Democrat guy presenting the liberal point of view so that the others can pummel him. I hope he's paid well for what he has to deal with every day.

I have never seen that show, but in my mind, the Tom and Doodle podcast wouldn’t be about me hammering doodle. Harry Browne never called Eugene stupid or belittled him. It sometimes because an animated conversation but never insulting and always respectful.

The goal is to change minds, not further polarize. If I belittled doodle then my previous libertarian supporters would cheer while any on-the-fence liberals would despise me and further solidify them in the liberal camp.
You could start by trying to convince the audience that we should remove any ban on civilians storing chemical and biological weapons in their garages. I think that will certainly win you quite a bit of support. We can then move on to privatizing our police force and judicial system.
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Re: The Tom & Doodle Podcast. Who’s In?

Post by vnatale » Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:28 am

technovelist wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:38 pm
sophie wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:32 pm
I Shrugged wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:26 am
Hal wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:19 am
Here -> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzu55W ... QIQ/videos
Excellent Hal!
That's only the money show. Any similar channel for the political one?
There's "The Five" on Fox News, with a couple of guys, a couple of intelligent Playboy bunnies, and of course the token black Democrat guy presenting the liberal point of view so that the others can pummel him. I hope he's paid well for what he has to deal with every day.
For those who haven't seen "The Five", I'm pretty sure Juan Williams (the token black Democrat) is at least mostly an actor who is paid to recite the Democrat talking points. I'm not sure he actually believes any of that.

He used to fill in for Bill O'Reilly on occasion, and when he did that he sounded JUST LIKE O'Reilly. So was he lying then, or is he lying now? Or is he an actor?

Also, the way they "pummel" him is by pointing out his idiocies, which again are just recitations of the daily talking points. They don't really attack him personally.
Have you ever read any of Juan Williams's books? I have plus have listened to him for years on Fox News Sunday. NO ACTOR! He believes what he says.

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