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Pinched nerves

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:25 pm
by Mountaineer
pp4me wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:52 am
Due to a pinched nerve in my neck I've spent the last few days binge-watching "Animal Kingdom". If you aren't familiar with it, it's an excellent series on TNT about a mother who calls herself "Smurf" and her four sons who make up a crime family in San Diego. Kind of Breaking-Bad-ish if you enjoyed that show.

So with the story I just read about how the Bidens were expected to kick 50% up to Joe it's like life imitating art.

Have to believe the Trump campaign hasn't been sitting on all of this for a long time just waiting until closer to election time so it doesn't get dropped down the memory hole.

Next up: Biden's counter-attack?
Ouch on the pinched nerve. Cortisone injection at C7 helped me a couple years ago. I feel your pain!

Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:35 pm
by vnatale
Mountaineer wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:25 pm
pp4me wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:52 am
Due to a pinched nerve in my neck I've spent the last few days binge-watching "Animal Kingdom". If you aren't familiar with it, it's an excellent series on TNT about a mother who calls herself "Smurf" and her four sons who make up a crime family in San Diego. Kind of Breaking-Bad-ish if you enjoyed that show.

So with the story I just read about how the Bidens were expected to kick 50% up to Joe it's like life imitating art.

Have to believe the Trump campaign hasn't been sitting on all of this for a long time just waiting until closer to election time so it doesn't get dropped down the memory hole.

Next up: Biden's counter-attack?
Ouch on the pinched nerve. Cortisone injection at C7 helped me a couple years ago. I feel your pain!
I also had one in my neck in 1984 but I had what was called "referred pain" in my right arm. Kept me out of basketball for two months. And, the pain was so much that some days I'd see a doctor and a chiropractor in desperation to get it cured. I finally succumbed to taking Tylenol with codeine to tolerate (or obviate) the pain.

Vinny

Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:17 pm
by pp4me
vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:35 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:25 pm
pp4me wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:52 am
Due to a pinched nerve in my neck I've spent the last few days binge-watching "Animal Kingdom". If you aren't familiar with it, it's an excellent series on TNT about a mother who calls herself "Smurf" and her four sons who make up a crime family in San Diego. Kind of Breaking-Bad-ish if you enjoyed that show.

So with the story I just read about how the Bidens were expected to kick 50% up to Joe it's like life imitating art.

Have to believe the Trump campaign hasn't been sitting on all of this for a long time just waiting until closer to election time so it doesn't get dropped down the memory hole.

Next up: Biden's counter-attack?
Ouch on the pinched nerve. Cortisone injection at C7 helped me a couple years ago. I feel your pain!
I also had one in my neck in 1984 but I had what was called "referred pain" in my right arm. Kept me out of basketball for two months. And, the pain was so much that some days I'd see a doctor and a chiropractor in desperation to get it cured. I finally succumbed to taking Tylenol with codeine to tolerate (or obviate) the pain.

Vinny
I was actually sitting on a plane for a four hour flight to Denver when I finally decided I'd better get off before it was too late. They had already closed the door and were just seconds away from pulling away when I had to ask them to open the door and let me out. I'd rate the pain about a 9 at that point. I've had neck issues for a long time but never anything this debilitating before. It's C5-6 disc compression with an apparently pinched nerve. Taking a steroid pack and trying out a cervical traction device. Right now it only hurts when I move.

Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by Mountaineer
pp4me wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:17 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:35 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:25 pm
pp4me wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:52 am
Due to a pinched nerve in my neck I've spent the last few days binge-watching "Animal Kingdom". If you aren't familiar with it, it's an excellent series on TNT about a mother who calls herself "Smurf" and her four sons who make up a crime family in San Diego. Kind of Breaking-Bad-ish if you enjoyed that show.

So with the story I just read about how the Bidens were expected to kick 50% up to Joe it's like life imitating art.

Have to believe the Trump campaign hasn't been sitting on all of this for a long time just waiting until closer to election time so it doesn't get dropped down the memory hole.

Next up: Biden's counter-attack?
Ouch on the pinched nerve. Cortisone injection at C7 helped me a couple years ago. I feel your pain!
I also had one in my neck in 1984 but I had what was called "referred pain" in my right arm. Kept me out of basketball for two months. And, the pain was so much that some days I'd see a doctor and a chiropractor in desperation to get it cured. I finally succumbed to taking Tylenol with codeine to tolerate (or obviate) the pain.

Vinny
I was actually sitting on a plane for a four hour flight to Denver when I finally decided I'd better get off before it was too late. They had already closed the door and were just seconds away from pulling away when I had to ask them to open the door and let me out. I'd rate the pain about a 9 at that point. I've had neck issues for a long time but never anything this debilitating before. It's C5-6 disc compression with an apparently pinched nerve. Taking a steroid pack and trying out a cervical traction device. Right now it only hurts when I move.
Sorry for thread diversion.

Ugly!!!! :'(

My pain came out nowhere almost instantly. I was driving home after being at a friends house for dinner. All of a sudden I experienced excruciating pain in my right shoulder blade area when I lifted my right arm to the top of the steering wheel. I think I tried Aleve and Tylenol with minimal success. Went to primary doc who prescribed a few weeks of PT. Tried neck traction and multiple exercises. Then had MRI, indicated compression at C7. Went to a spine doc who did an electrical test of some sort (EMG?) to confirm. Then went to a doc that specialized in cortisone injections in to the spine; had it done. In the meantime I took opiates for a couple of weeks to make the pain go from 8-10 to maybe a 5-6. Pain diminished over several weeks. I asked spine doc in my last followup a couple months later whether the PT, the cortisone injection, or time was the solution. He just replied “yes”. I still have a somewhat numb right index finger almost 5 years later; doc said it may never be back to normal. At least my neck/shoulder doesn’t hurt much any more. Sorry to bore you with the gory details, thought you might know there probably is a light at the end of the tunnel. It just might take a while. Hang in there. Blessings, and hope you feel better soon.

Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:59 pm
by vnatale
Mountaineer wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
pp4me wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:17 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:35 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:25 pm
pp4me wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:52 am
Due to a pinched nerve in my neck I've spent the last few days binge-watching "Animal Kingdom". If you aren't familiar with it, it's an excellent series on TNT about a mother who calls herself "Smurf" and her four sons who make up a crime family in San Diego. Kind of Breaking-Bad-ish if you enjoyed that show.

So with the story I just read about how the Bidens were expected to kick 50% up to Joe it's like life imitating art.

Have to believe the Trump campaign hasn't been sitting on all of this for a long time just waiting until closer to election time so it doesn't get dropped down the memory hole.

Next up: Biden's counter-attack?
Ouch on the pinched nerve. Cortisone injection at C7 helped me a couple years ago. I feel your pain!
I also had one in my neck in 1984 but I had what was called "referred pain" in my right arm. Kept me out of basketball for two months. And, the pain was so much that some days I'd see a doctor and a chiropractor in desperation to get it cured. I finally succumbed to taking Tylenol with codeine to tolerate (or obviate) the pain.

Vinny
I was actually sitting on a plane for a four hour flight to Denver when I finally decided I'd better get off before it was too late. They had already closed the door and were just seconds away from pulling away when I had to ask them to open the door and let me out. I'd rate the pain about a 9 at that point. I've had neck issues for a long time but never anything this debilitating before. It's C5-6 disc compression with an apparently pinched nerve. Taking a steroid pack and trying out a cervical traction device. Right now it only hurts when I move.
Sorry for thread diversion.

Ugly!!!! :'(

My pain came out nowhere almost instantly. I was driving home after being at a friends house for dinner. All of a sudden I experienced excruciating pain in my right shoulder blade area when I lifted my right arm to the top of the steering wheel. I think I tried Aleve and Tylenol with minimal success. Went to primary doc who prescribed a few weeks of PT. Tried neck traction and multiple exercises. Then had MRI, indicated compression at C7. Went to a spine doc who did an electrical test of some sort (EMG?) to confirm. Then went to a doc that specialized in cortisone injections in to the spine; had it done. In the meantime I took opiates for a couple of weeks to make the pain go from 8-10 to maybe a 5-6. Pain diminished over several weeks. I asked spine doc in my last followup a couple months later whether the PT, the cortisone injection, or time was the solution. He just replied “yes”. I still have a somewhat numb right index finger almost 5 years later; doc said it may never be back to normal. At least my neck/shoulder doesn’t hurt much any more. Sorry to bore you with the gory details, thought you might know there probably is a light at the end of the tunnel. It just might take a while. Hang in there. Blessings, and hope you feel better soon.
Your experience sounds like it was way worse and serious than me. Like you mine seemingly came out of nowhere. Could not associate any type trauma that brought it on. Initially when I was proscribed the tylenol with codeine having the anti-drug bent that I have I only took when when the pain was unbearable. When the doctor asked him how they were working out I told him my method. He said that was not the way to take them. That I had to take them regularly so that my bloodstream would continue to be saturated with them. I did do that and that eliminated all the pain. But it left my emotions raw. Another time when I severely strained my back and had back spasms and consequent severe pain, I again was proscribed tylenol with codeine. And, again my emotions were raw. My emotions just became way over reactive. And, I'm fairly certain that it was the all-time healer known as T-I-M-E that once again finally cured me.

Vinny

Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:40 am
by pp4me
vnatale wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:59 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
pp4me wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:17 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:35 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:25 pm
pp4me wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:52 am
Due to a pinched nerve in my neck I've spent the last few days binge-watching "Animal Kingdom". If you aren't familiar with it, it's an excellent series on TNT about a mother who calls herself "Smurf" and her four sons who make up a crime family in San Diego. Kind of Breaking-Bad-ish if you enjoyed that show.

So with the story I just read about how the Bidens were expected to kick 50% up to Joe it's like life imitating art.

Have to believe the Trump campaign hasn't been sitting on all of this for a long time just waiting until closer to election time so it doesn't get dropped down the memory hole.

Next up: Biden's counter-attack?
Ouch on the pinched nerve. Cortisone injection at C7 helped me a couple years ago. I feel your pain!
I also had one in my neck in 1984 but I had what was called "referred pain" in my right arm. Kept me out of basketball for two months. And, the pain was so much that some days I'd see a doctor and a chiropractor in desperation to get it cured. I finally succumbed to taking Tylenol with codeine to tolerate (or obviate) the pain.

Vinny
I was actually sitting on a plane for a four hour flight to Denver when I finally decided I'd better get off before it was too late. They had already closed the door and were just seconds away from pulling away when I had to ask them to open the door and let me out. I'd rate the pain about a 9 at that point. I've had neck issues for a long time but never anything this debilitating before. It's C5-6 disc compression with an apparently pinched nerve. Taking a steroid pack and trying out a cervical traction device. Right now it only hurts when I move.
Sorry for thread diversion.

Ugly!!!! :'(

My pain came out nowhere almost instantly. I was driving home after being at a friends house for dinner. All of a sudden I experienced excruciating pain in my right shoulder blade area when I lifted my right arm to the top of the steering wheel. I think I tried Aleve and Tylenol with minimal success. Went to primary doc who prescribed a few weeks of PT. Tried neck traction and multiple exercises. Then had MRI, indicated compression at C7. Went to a spine doc who did an electrical test of some sort (EMG?) to confirm. Then went to a doc that specialized in cortisone injections in to the spine; had it done. In the meantime I took opiates for a couple of weeks to make the pain go from 8-10 to maybe a 5-6. Pain diminished over several weeks. I asked spine doc in my last followup a couple months later whether the PT, the cortisone injection, or time was the solution. He just replied “yes”. I still have a somewhat numb right index finger almost 5 years later; doc said it may never be back to normal. At least my neck/shoulder doesn’t hurt much any more. Sorry to bore you with the gory details, thought you might know there probably is a light at the end of the tunnel. It just might take a while. Hang in there. Blessings, and hope you feel better soon.
Your experience sounds like it was way worse and serious than me. Like you mine seemingly came out of nowhere. Could not associate any type trauma that brought it on. Initially when I was proscribed the tylenol with codeine having the anti-drug bent that I have I only took when when the pain was unbearable. When the doctor asked him how they were working out I told him my method. He said that was not the way to take them. That I had to take them regularly so that my bloodstream would continue to be saturated with them. I did do that and that eliminated all the pain. But it left my emotions raw. Another time when I severely strained my back and had back spasms and consequent severe pain, I again was proscribed tylenol with codeine. And, again my emotions were raw. My emotions just became way over reactive. And, I'm fairly certain that it was the all-time healer known as T-I-M-E that once again finally cured me.

Vinny
Since we're talking about drugs now I guess this thread about Hunter Biden hasn't been completely hijacked.

Interesting that Mountaineer's story starts with driving. Mine started by taking an hour and a half drive to Orlando. By the time I got there I was in severe pain. That still seems to cause it to flare up even if I steer with the opposite hand. Happened again on the way to the airport.

My neck issues started with an injury at work over 40 years ago. I was on my first programming job sitting in front of my computer when all of a sudden a bunch of cubicle partitions being stacked up behind me came crashing down right on the very spot where the pain originates. Someone told me to go to the hospital to get it checked out but I shrugged it off. I once asked a rheumatologist if it would have made any difference if I had gone to the hospital and she said no, the damage was already done by then. Started having a stick neck shortly after the incident. What probably would have helped is better posture and more breaks from sitting in front of my computer for the next 40 years.

Any of you younger folks with desk jobs take note. There is no such thing as a neck replacement.

Didn't make it to Denver but my daughter is sending me an ointment with THC and CBD. Looking forward to getting it.

Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:19 pm
by vnatale
pp4me wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:40 am
vnatale wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:59 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
pp4me wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:17 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:35 pm
Mountaineer wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:25 pm
pp4me wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:52 am
Due to a pinched nerve in my neck I've spent the last few days binge-watching "Animal Kingdom". If you aren't familiar with it, it's an excellent series on TNT about a mother who calls herself "Smurf" and her four sons who make up a crime family in San Diego. Kind of Breaking-Bad-ish if you enjoyed that show.

So with the story I just read about how the Bidens were expected to kick 50% up to Joe it's like life imitating art.

Have to believe the Trump campaign hasn't been sitting on all of this for a long time just waiting until closer to election time so it doesn't get dropped down the memory hole.

Next up: Biden's counter-attack?
Ouch on the pinched nerve. Cortisone injection at C7 helped me a couple years ago. I feel your pain!
I also had one in my neck in 1984 but I had what was called "referred pain" in my right arm. Kept me out of basketball for two months. And, the pain was so much that some days I'd see a doctor and a chiropractor in desperation to get it cured. I finally succumbed to taking Tylenol with codeine to tolerate (or obviate) the pain.

Vinny
I was actually sitting on a plane for a four hour flight to Denver when I finally decided I'd better get off before it was too late. They had already closed the door and were just seconds away from pulling away when I had to ask them to open the door and let me out. I'd rate the pain about a 9 at that point. I've had neck issues for a long time but never anything this debilitating before. It's C5-6 disc compression with an apparently pinched nerve. Taking a steroid pack and trying out a cervical traction device. Right now it only hurts when I move.
Sorry for thread diversion.

Ugly!!!! :'(

My pain came out nowhere almost instantly. I was driving home after being at a friends house for dinner. All of a sudden I experienced excruciating pain in my right shoulder blade area when I lifted my right arm to the top of the steering wheel. I think I tried Aleve and Tylenol with minimal success. Went to primary doc who prescribed a few weeks of PT. Tried neck traction and multiple exercises. Then had MRI, indicated compression at C7. Went to a spine doc who did an electrical test of some sort (EMG?) to confirm. Then went to a doc that specialized in cortisone injections in to the spine; had it done. In the meantime I took opiates for a couple of weeks to make the pain go from 8-10 to maybe a 5-6. Pain diminished over several weeks. I asked spine doc in my last followup a couple months later whether the PT, the cortisone injection, or time was the solution. He just replied “yes”. I still have a somewhat numb right index finger almost 5 years later; doc said it may never be back to normal. At least my neck/shoulder doesn’t hurt much any more. Sorry to bore you with the gory details, thought you might know there probably is a light at the end of the tunnel. It just might take a while. Hang in there. Blessings, and hope you feel better soon.
Your experience sounds like it was way worse and serious than me. Like you mine seemingly came out of nowhere. Could not associate any type trauma that brought it on. Initially when I was proscribed the tylenol with codeine having the anti-drug bent that I have I only took when when the pain was unbearable. When the doctor asked him how they were working out I told him my method. He said that was not the way to take them. That I had to take them regularly so that my bloodstream would continue to be saturated with them. I did do that and that eliminated all the pain. But it left my emotions raw. Another time when I severely strained my back and had back spasms and consequent severe pain, I again was proscribed tylenol with codeine. And, again my emotions were raw. My emotions just became way over reactive. And, I'm fairly certain that it was the all-time healer known as T-I-M-E that once again finally cured me.

Vinny
Since we're talking about drugs now I guess this thread about Hunter Biden hasn't been completely hijacked.

Interesting that Mountaineer's story starts with driving. Mine started by taking an hour and a half drive to Orlando. By the time I got there I was in severe pain. That still seems to cause it to flare up even if I steer with the opposite hand. Happened again on the way to the airport.

My neck issues started with an injury at work over 40 years ago. I was on my first programming job sitting in front of my computer when all of a sudden a bunch of cubicle partitions being stacked up behind me came crashing down right on the very spot where the pain originates. Someone told me to go to the hospital to get it checked out but I shrugged it off. I once asked a rheumatologist if it would have made any difference if I had gone to the hospital and she said no, the damage was already done by then. Started having a stick neck shortly after the incident. What probably would have helped is better posture and more breaks from sitting in front of my computer for the next 40 years.

Any of you younger folks with desk jobs take note. There is no such thing as a neck replacement.

Didn't make it to Denver but my daughter is sending me an ointment with THC and CBD. Looking forward to getting it.
Several years ago, during tax season when I was working 10+ hours a day, I started getting severe pains in both my arms.

Then when I took a rare day off during tax season to attend an all-day high school basketball tournament on a Saturday and was just sitting there and NOT in front of a computer (on top of those 10+ hour work days, I'd be home doing the same for another 2 to 3 hours every day)...and still feeling the same pain....I got quite concerned about where this was going.

Quite fortunately soon after I read an article about ergonomics with many specifics related to how I was working at my computer. I followed EVERY single thing the article recommended and ALL the pain left, never to return.

One of the things I remember was that using a track ball was much better than using a mouse as our body is not set up to do the repetitive fine motions that a mouse requires.

Vinny

Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:31 pm
by Xan
pp4me wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:40 am
Since we're talking about drugs now I guess this thread about Hunter Biden hasn't been completely hijacked.
I forked the thread the other day.

Re: Pinched nerves

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:53 pm
by Tortoise
Looks like only the first post in this fork got the updated subject line. All the other posts still have the old Hunter Biden subject line.

Re: Pinched nerves

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:46 pm
by vnatale
Tortoise wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:53 pm
Looks like only the first post in this fork got the updated subject line. All the other posts still have the old Hunter Biden subject line.
Is it due to the Subject retaining its original title if replied to but not if it a new reply?

VInny

Re: Pinched nerves

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:51 pm
by sophie
Sorry to hear about all the pain issues, guys....

A few general observations from your friendly neighborhood neurologist....

It's important to determine if the pain is neuropathic ("pinched nerve") or a muscle spasm. They're treated differently. Medication-wise, opiates for neuropathic pain makes the customer happy I'm sure, but it's not accepted practice and they don't work all that well. NSAIDs are tried first but generally won't work. The most effective drugs are an anti-epileptic like gabapentin or topiramate (lower doses than needed for epilepsy, which minimizes side effects). Pain will generally resolve with time depending on the cause...usually around 6 months but could take a couple years. If the pain isn't improving and can be traced to a definite site, surgery may be considered but get a second opinion and info on the possible outcomes from a neurologist first.

For muscle pain, heat/cold/NSAIDs are the first line, then trigger point injections. My favorite remedy: put an apple in the freezer and then lie down on it with the muscle knot right on the apple, and enjoy a nice glass of whiskey while you're at it. PT/stretching exercises help. So does a good massage therapist.

I get these too, I know how awful they can be. My sympathies.

Re: Pinched nerves

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:04 pm
by pp4me
sophie wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:51 pm
It's important to determine if the pain is neuropathic ("pinched nerve") or a muscle spasm.
Seems like a combination of both to me. Assuming this requires an MRI?

Doc only took an X-ray and looked at results from an MRI 3 years ago. Assuming for now it's C5-6 even though on the right.

C2-3 Disc Level: Mild annular disc bulge is seen. The central canal and neural foramina remain patent.
C3-4 Disc Level: Uncovertebral joint and facet hypertrophy is seen on the left with moderate foraminal narrowing on the left.
C4-5 Disc Level: Uncovertebral joint and facet hypertrophy is seen towards the left with mild foraminal narrowing on the left. No canal stenosis.
C5-6 Disc Level: Desiccated bulging disc is seen with uncovertebral joint and severe facet hypertrophy on the left with severe foraminal narrowing on the left.
C6-7 Disc Level: Desiccated bulging disc is seen with 3 mm right paracentral disc protrusion and osteophyte. Mild lateral recess narrowing is seen on the right.

Other than that my neck is in good shape.

Steroid pack seems to be helping. I'm fairly pain free and able to sleep through the night as long as I watch how I move so I'm encouraged it will eventually improve to back where I only have a stiff neck which I will never complain about again.

Doc's specialty is Orthopedic Spine Surgery so I'm assuming I'm in good hands.