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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by technovelist » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:30 pm

Xan wrote:
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In related news, C-span just suspended the guy who was previously scheduled to moderate the cancelled second debate.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/c-span ... ing-hacked
Too bad. Excellent C-Span moderator.

I discovered C-Span in 1985 when I was flipping through channels and saw Dee Snider, Twisted Sister's lead singer, testifying in front of Congress regarding the record labeling that then Senator Al Gore's wife, Tipper Gore, wanted done.

I've watched since. And, a fair amount almost every day.

In the intervening 35 years this is the first time I can remember anything at all controversial regarding C-Span.

Vinny
If I recall correctly, you explained to us that the only opinion show on C-Span was the morning show, of which Scully was the host.
This is just another example of how TDS can be a debilitating disorder.
It doesn't seem that what Scully did was that bad. He (publicly, on Twitter) asked Scaramucci whether or not he should respond to what Trump was saying about him. What really got him into trouble was lying about his account being hacked. C-SPAN put out an official statement based on his word that he didn't send the message, when he had.

I don't see anything particularly out of bounds about the message. Surely it's the lying that really has everybody ticked off.
I couldn't disagree more. A moderator of a debate should not be asking a known enemy of one of the debate participants what to do about ANYTHING.
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by Cortopassi » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:54 pm

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I couldn't disagree more. A moderator of a debate should not be asking a known enemy of one of the debate participants what to do about ANYTHING.
Known enemy. You mean the list of people who were all great, and then were losers / I barely knew them? That list seems to grow daily.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics ... index.html

Sorry I couldn't find a concise list. I guess most/all those people went in knowing to some level what they were getting into, so this is not all on Trump.
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by Cortopassi » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:02 pm

Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 13.9 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump's town hall on NBC. That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that's not even the most surprising part.

The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC's cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden -- on only one network -- still prevailed.
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While surprising to many media and political observers, Biden's ratings strength has been palpable for months.
When Trump participated in a town hall on ABC last month, the event averaged 3.8 million viewers.
When Biden held a town hall on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC last week, it averaged 6.7 million viewers.
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

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Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:54 pm
technovelist wrote:
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I couldn't disagree more. A moderator of a debate should not be asking a known enemy of one of the debate participants what to do about ANYTHING.
Known enemy. You mean the list of people who were all great, and then were losers / I barely knew them? That list seems to grow daily.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics ... index.html

Sorry I couldn't find a concise list. I guess most/all those people went in knowing to some level what they were getting into, so this is not all on Trump.
What does it matter how many people are on that list? Does the number of people who hate Trump affect the propriety of asking one of them for advice when you are SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED?

Obviously not, if you don't have TDS.
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

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Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:02 pm
Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 13.9 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump's town hall on NBC. That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that's not even the most surprising part.

The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC's cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden -- on only one network -- still prevailed.
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While surprising to many media and political observers, Biden's ratings strength has been palpable for months.
When Trump participated in a town hall on ABC last month, the event averaged 3.8 million viewers.
When Biden held a town hall on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC last week, it averaged 6.7 million viewers.
I'm actually not that surprised. I'm sure many people tuned in to see how many idiotic and incoherent things Biden would say.
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by Cortopassi » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:27 pm

technovelist wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:18 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:02 pm
Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 13.9 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump's town hall on NBC. That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that's not even the most surprising part.

The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC's cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden -- on only one network -- still prevailed.
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While surprising to many media and political observers, Biden's ratings strength has been palpable for months.
When Trump participated in a town hall on ABC last month, the event averaged 3.8 million viewers.
When Biden held a town hall on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC last week, it averaged 6.7 million viewers.
I'm actually not that surprised. I'm sure many people tuned in to see how many idiotic and incoherent things Biden would say.
And...did he? I watched snippets, but did not see any of that. Are there far right websites teeming with videos from last night confirming he has Alzheimer's?
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by vnatale » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:38 pm

Cortopassi wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:27 pm
technovelist wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:18 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:02 pm
Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 13.9 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump's town hall on NBC. That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that's not even the most surprising part.

The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC's cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden -- on only one network -- still prevailed.
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While surprising to many media and political observers, Biden's ratings strength has been palpable for months.
When Trump participated in a town hall on ABC last month, the event averaged 3.8 million viewers.
When Biden held a town hall on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC last week, it averaged 6.7 million viewers.
I'm actually not that surprised. I'm sure many people tuned in to see how many idiotic and incoherent things Biden would say.
And...did he? I watched snippets, but did not see any of that. Are there far right websites teeming with videos from last night confirming he has Alzheimer's?
Just listened to Trump again. He IS highly entertaining at his rallies. But when he is being directly asked questions and challenged on his answers he comes off quite poorly. A lot of "I don't know's" to what he SHOULD know! A lot of crazy suppositions he throws out there. All around, just a lot of craziness from him!

I'll soon be listening to Biden for the first time.

I chose Trump first because he's always the far more entertaining choice.

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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by Tortoise » Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:43 pm

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And...did he? I watched snippets, but did not see any of that. Are there far right websites teeming with videos from last night confirming he has Alzheimer's?
Yes, Biden did say at least one idiotic thing. He said that little kids should have the right to decide to have transgender surgery if they want:

https://youtu.be/_jPL2ZRQQdU
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by glennds » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:21 pm

technovelist wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:18 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:02 pm
Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 13.9 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump's town hall on NBC. That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that's not even the most surprising part.

The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC's cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden -- on only one network -- still prevailed.
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While surprising to many media and political observers, Biden's ratings strength has been palpable for months.
When Trump participated in a town hall on ABC last month, the event averaged 3.8 million viewers.
When Biden held a town hall on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC last week, it averaged 6.7 million viewers.
I'm actually not that surprised. I'm sure many people tuned in to see how many idiotic and incoherent things Biden would say.
I haven't watched the whole thing, but Biden's performance has me scratching my head. For the longest time, the conventional wisdom among Trump supporters was that Biden was a completely incoherent dementia patient that would be stumbling all over himself, unable to construct or maintain any logic or consistent thought. But that has not been the case to my eye in either the DNC, the first debate or last night's town hall.
So was all this speculation about the extent of Biden's cognitive impairment just a hoax (or a hope)?

If anyone comes off as incoherent in recent weeks it's Trump. Although in last night's Town Hall maybe he deserves a pass if he's still under the influence of Covid or treatment drugs. Of course if this were indeed the case, it raises a question as to what your comfort level might be with having an impaired President under any circumstances.
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by Cortopassi » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:34 pm

glennds wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:21 pm
technovelist wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:18 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:02 pm
Joe Biden's town hall on ABC averaged 13.9 million viewers on Thursday night, easily surpassing the Nielsen ratings for President Trump's town hall on NBC. That alone was a result virtually no one in the TV business expected. And that's not even the most surprising part.

The Trump town hall was simulcast by two of NBC's cable channels, MSNBC and CNBC, but even when those channels are included in the total, Biden -- on only one network -- still prevailed.
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While surprising to many media and political observers, Biden's ratings strength has been palpable for months.
When Trump participated in a town hall on ABC last month, the event averaged 3.8 million viewers.
When Biden held a town hall on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC last week, it averaged 6.7 million viewers.
I'm actually not that surprised. I'm sure many people tuned in to see how many idiotic and incoherent things Biden would say.
I haven't watched the whole thing, but Biden's performance has me scratching my head. For the longest time, the conventional wisdom among Trump supporters was that Biden was a completely incoherent dementia patient that would be stumbling all over himself, unable to construct or maintain any logic or consistent thought. But that has not been the case to my eye in either the DNC, the first debate or last night's town hall.
So was all this speculation about the extent of Biden's cognitive impairment just a hoax (or a hope)?

If anyone comes off as incoherent in recent weeks it's Trump. Although in last night's Town Hall maybe he deserves a pass if he's still under the influence of Covid or treatment drugs. Of course if this were indeed the case, it raises a question as to what your comfort level might be with having an impaired President under any circumstances.
But WAIT there's more.....Hunter....emails...laptop...Chinese... dammit, nothing is sticking.... 18 days....

Oh, and...Jon Voight!

“Biden is evil. Trump must win. He’s real. He will bring back the people’s trust,”

Trump will bring back the people's trust after 4 years of squandering it?? :o :o
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by Tyler » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:21 pm

glennds wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:21 pm
I haven't watched the whole thing, but Biden's performance has me scratching my head. For the longest time, the conventional wisdom among Trump supporters was that Biden was a completely incoherent dementia patient that would be stumbling all over himself, unable to construct or maintain any logic or consistent thought. But that has not been the case to my eye in either the DNC, the first debate or last night's town hall.
So was all this speculation about the extent of Biden's cognitive impairment just a hoax (or a hope)?
IMO, it's hard to read too much into events that are clearly staged for a predetermined outcome. Did you know one of the questioners in the Biden town hall presented as an "undecided" voter was a speechwriter in the Obama administration? How many times do you think Biden rehearsed his answer ahead of time?
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Re: Dueling town halls tomorrow evening

Post by doodle » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:55 pm

technovelist wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:17 pm
Cortopassi wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:54 pm
technovelist wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:30 pm

I couldn't disagree more. A moderator of a debate should not be asking a known enemy of one of the debate participants what to do about ANYTHING.
Known enemy. You mean the list of people who were all great, and then were losers / I barely knew them? That list seems to grow daily.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics ... index.html

Sorry I couldn't find a concise list. I guess most/all those people went in knowing to some level what they were getting into, so this is not all on Trump.
What does it matter how many people are on that list? Does the number of people who hate Trump affect the propriety of asking one of them for advice when you are SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED?

Obviously not, if you don't have TDS.
Techno, would you say that you have BDS? You seem more unhinged about him than almost anything I've seen about Trump.
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