Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by pp4me » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:52 am

Due to a pinched nerve in my neck I've spent the last few days binge-watching "Animal Kingdom". If you aren't familiar with it, it's an excellent series on TNT about a mother who calls herself "Smurf" and her four sons who make up a crime family in San Diego. Kind of Breaking-Bad-ish if you enjoyed that show.

So with the story I just read about how the Bidens were expected to kick 50% up to Joe it's like life imitating art.

Have to believe the Trump campaign hasn't been sitting on all of this for a long time just waiting until closer to election time so it doesn't get dropped down the memory hole.

Next up: Biden's counter-attack?
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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by GT » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:35 pm

vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:04 am
I have received a source from my Facebook post requesting one.

Vinny

Giuliani and the New York Post Are Pushing Russian Disinformation. It’s a Big Test for the Media.
With its new Biden story, Murdoch’s tabloid is a useful idiot for Vladimir Putin.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... RQoTmABV3Q
Looks like the hit pieces are coming in for Giuliani:

- Motherjones has Giuliani has a Russian asset - Vinny's link above

- MSNBC has Giuliani as Rudy Giuliani is the boy who cried Ukraine (Running a con on the American people) - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... uxbndlbing

- Yahoo has Giuliani as a racist's - Rudy Giuliani Accidentally Uploaded Video of Himself Being Racist - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rud ... 33353.html
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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by technovelist » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:41 pm

GT wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:35 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:04 am
I have received a source from my Facebook post requesting one.

Vinny

Giuliani and the New York Post Are Pushing Russian Disinformation. It’s a Big Test for the Media.
With its new Biden story, Murdoch’s tabloid is a useful idiot for Vladimir Putin.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... RQoTmABV3Q
Looks like the hit pieces are coming in for Giuliani:

- Motherjones has Giuliani has a Russian asset - Vinny's link above

- MSNBC has Giuliani as Rudy Giuliani is the boy who cried Ukraine (Running a con on the American people) - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... uxbndlbing

- Yahoo has Giuliani as a racist's - Rudy Giuliani Accidentally Uploaded Video of Himself Being Racist - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rud ... 33353.html
This is an example of the old saying, "If you're taking flak, you're over the target".
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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by GT » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:45 am

technovelist wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:41 pm
GT wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:35 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:04 am
I have received a source from my Facebook post requesting one.

Vinny

Giuliani and the New York Post Are Pushing Russian Disinformation. It’s a Big Test for the Media.
With its new Biden story, Murdoch’s tabloid is a useful idiot for Vladimir Putin.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... RQoTmABV3Q
Looks like the hit pieces are coming in for Giuliani:

- Motherjones has Giuliani has a Russian asset - Vinny's link above

- MSNBC has Giuliani as Rudy Giuliani is the boy who cried Ukraine (Running a con on the American people) - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... uxbndlbing

- Yahoo has Giuliani as a racist's - Rudy Giuliani Accidentally Uploaded Video of Himself Being Racist - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rud ... 33353.html
This is an example of the old saying, "If you're taking flak, you're over the target".
I think you are right as the hits keep coming

- Daily News has Giuliani as a Russian Dope
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp

- Huff Post has Giuliani as Ignore Giuliani - Rudy Giuliani’s Daughter Suggests You Ignore Her Dad And Vote For Joe Bidenhttps://www.huffpost.com/entry/rudy-giuliani-da ... eccffea28d

I don't really care about Giuliani just amazed at how quickly the hit pieces can come out claiming dubious sources against the Biden's versus the Russian dossier on Trump that people had to endure on MSM for years -
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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by vnatale » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:27 am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp

Newsweek

Blocking NY Post Hunter Biden Story Was 'Wrong', Twitter CEO Says


In the wake of significant backlash over Twitter's suppression of a New York Post story about Hunter Biden, the CEO, Jack Dorsey, called the company's response "wrong."
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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by I Shrugged » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:06 pm

vnatale wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:27 am
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp

Newsweek

Blocking NY Post Hunter Biden Story Was 'Wrong', Twitter CEO Says


In the wake of significant backlash over Twitter's suppression of a New York Post story about Hunter Biden, the CEO, Jack Dorsey, called the company's response "wrong."
Sounds like he's saying that the blocking is okay, as long as they provide "more context".
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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by Tortoise » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:34 pm

The politicians and pundits who complain about Twitter's partisan censorship and editorializing but continue to use it instead of switching to an alt-tech platform like Parler aren't helping much.

Trump has 87 million followers on Twitter. If he were to switch to an alt-tech platform, not only would most of them follow him there, but other high-profile Twitter users who regularly retweet Trump, along with most of their followers, would also go.

Trump could single-handedly boost participation in an alt-tech platform by a huge amount simply by switching over from Twitter. It would send a very strong message to big tech platforms that partisan censorship only works if people have no alternative platforms to use.
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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by vnatale » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:54 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:34 pm
The politicians and pundits who complain about Twitter's partisan censorship and editorializing but continue to use it instead of switching to an alt-tech platform like Parler aren't helping much.

Trump has 87 million followers on Twitter. If he were to switch to an alt-tech platform, not only would most of them follow him there, but other high-profile Twitter users who regularly retweet Trump, along with most of their followers, would also go.

Trump could single-handedly boost participation in an alt-tech platform by a huge amount simply by switching over from Twitter. It would send a very strong message to big tech platforms that partisan censorship only works if people have no alternative platforms to use.
Agree with all you have to say!

Senator Cruz complaining about Twitter censoring media is ridiculous! Twitter is a private media the same way NT Times, ABC, Fox are. They each are free to distribute or allow whatever information they like. If Cruz does not like the way Twitter chooses to do so then being a good free market Republican / conservative he should be advocating the creation of a rival Twitter that allows what he believes that Twitter is censoring.

Cruz is yet another who wants the free market, private enterprise to prevail but when an entity in it does not behave according to his wishes then he wants the government to regulate it! Hypocrisy at its best!

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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by technovelist » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:20 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:34 pm
The politicians and pundits who complain about Twitter's partisan censorship and editorializing but continue to use it instead of switching to an alt-tech platform like Parler aren't helping much.

Trump has 87 million followers on Twitter. If he were to switch to an alt-tech platform, not only would most of them follow him there, but other high-profile Twitter users who regularly retweet Trump, along with most of their followers, would also go.

Trump could single-handedly boost participation in an alt-tech platform by a huge amount simply by switching over from Twitter. It would send a very strong message to big tech platforms that partisan censorship only works if people have no alternative platforms to use.
He already is on Parler as well, in fact.
But it's hard to get people to switch platforms.
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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by technovelist » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:26 pm

vnatale wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:54 pm
Tortoise wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:34 pm
The politicians and pundits who complain about Twitter's partisan censorship and editorializing but continue to use it instead of switching to an alt-tech platform like Parler aren't helping much.

Trump has 87 million followers on Twitter. If he were to switch to an alt-tech platform, not only would most of them follow him there, but other high-profile Twitter users who regularly retweet Trump, along with most of their followers, would also go.

Trump could single-handedly boost participation in an alt-tech platform by a huge amount simply by switching over from Twitter. It would send a very strong message to big tech platforms that partisan censorship only works if people have no alternative platforms to use.
Agree with all you have to say!

Senator Cruz complaining about Twitter censoring media is ridiculous! Twitter is a private media the same way NT Times, ABC, Fox are. They each are free to distribute or allow whatever information they like. If Cruz does not like the way Twitter chooses to do so then being a good free market Republican / conservative he should be advocating the creation of a rival Twitter that allows what he believes that Twitter is censoring.

Cruz is yet another who wants the free market, private enterprise to prevail but when an entity in it does not behave according to his wishes then he wants the government to regulate it! Hypocrisy at its best!

Vinny
The NY Times, ABC, Fox, etc., don't have immunity from liability for publishing defamatory material.
Twitter does, under Section 230 of the CDA. But that immunity is based on the notion that they aren't publishers or platforms.
But if they aren't publishers but platforms, they can't censor content.
So which is it? Are they publishers (liable for lawsuits for defamatory material) or not (no censorship)?
They can't have it both ways, but that's where we are right now.

That's what Cruz and other critics are saying: they have to choose whether they want to be publishers or platforms.
Do you have a problem with that?
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Re: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

Post by Tortoise » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:32 pm

technovelist wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:20 pm
Tortoise wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:34 pm
The politicians and pundits who complain about Twitter's partisan censorship and editorializing but continue to use it instead of switching to an alt-tech platform like Parler aren't helping much.

Trump has 87 million followers on Twitter. If he were to switch to an alt-tech platform, not only would most of them follow him there, but other high-profile Twitter users who regularly retweet Trump, along with most of their followers, would also go.

Trump could single-handedly boost participation in an alt-tech platform by a huge amount simply by switching over from Twitter. It would send a very strong message to big tech platforms that partisan censorship only works if people have no alternative platforms to use.
He already is on Parler as well, in fact.
But it's hard to get people to switch platforms.
That's why I said Trump should "switch to" an alt-tech platform, not use the alt-tech platform while continuing to use Twitter. He should stop using Twitter and switch completely to Parler. If he did that, you can be sure a lot more people would follow him on Parler.
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