Biden Reportedly Asked For Debate Breaks, REFUSES To Get Inspected For Ear Piece Or Do Drug Test
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Kind of like Trump refused to release tax returns....only thing there is a precedent for tax returns...never heard of predebate drug test.
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Re: Biden Reportedly Asked For Debate Breaks, REFUSES To Get Inspected For Ear Piece Or Do Drug Test
Let's take a couple hours off and see how it goes.
I still have a friend at work who is convinced in the next 3 hours Biden will come up with an excuse not to debate.
I still have a friend at work who is convinced in the next 3 hours Biden will come up with an excuse not to debate.
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Re: Biden Reportedly Asked For Debate Breaks, REFUSES To Get Inspected For Ear Piece Or Do Drug Test
Ear piece required so handlers can remind him when it’s time to go pee. Don’t want any puddles under plugs.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:27 pmI agree with your friend.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:48 pm Let's take a couple hours off and see how it goes.
I still have a friend at work who is convinced in the next 3 hours Biden will come up with an excuse not to debate.
Why won't they agree to let him be examined for an earpiece? Why does he need so many breaks?
There is no answer to those questions that will satisfy 100 million viewers, and you can be sure that Trump will bring it up if he tries to slide on it.
DNA has its own language (code), and language requires intelligence. There is no known mechanism by which matter can give birth to information, let alone language. It is unreasonable to believe the world could have happened by chance.
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Re: Biden Reportedly Asked For Debate Breaks, REFUSES To Get Inspected For Ear Piece Or Do Drug Test
Trump should just flat out ask him if he is using any ear pieces or getting any cues or prompting in any fashion.
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Has anyone ever worked with an earpiece? Esp. if not experienced with one? You'd see him obviously trying to focus on what is being said and likely lose the train of thought of what he was saying. Hell, it would probably make him look even more like he had dementia.
C'mon. Every gosh darn thing is a conspiracy.
They just had a clip on NBC nightly news, I think in MI farm country. Asked a group of older farmers, at least 10-20 of them -- How many believe Covid was a Chinese plot against the US? I believe they all raised their hands. This is what we've gotten to.
If that was the plan, to divide us with this virus, it sure has worked. Not that Trump wasn't already doing a good job himself.
And this earpiece thing is already part of the conspiracy deal. Convenient. If he does so well, it must have been drugs. Or earpiece. Or something....hmmmm....
From Fox News. I guess we'll see who's lying:
Kate Bedingfield, Biden’s deputy campaign manager, called the Trump campaign’s request “absurd” in a call with reporters. She also denied the claim that the campaign had asked for breaks.
"His staff seems concerned that he may not do well tonight and they’re already laying the groundwork for how they’re going to lie about why," Bedingfield emphasized. "It is completely absurd. Of course, he’s not wearing an earpiece and we never asked for breaks."
Bedingfield, speaking with reporters, added that "if we’re playing that game, the Trump team asked that Chris Wallace never mention the number of COVID deaths once during the debate. You can considered that confirmed from the Biden campaign. See how easy that was to try and throw out a distraction. It is pathetic. It’s weak. Once again the Trump campaign is lying. They’re going to process because they don’t want to debate Joe Biden on the substance. You go to process when you can’t go to substance."
Murtaugh fired back that "This is a lie and it never happened. This is the height of playing politics with a public health crisis. Biden is trying to distract from the facts that he won’t submit to an inspection for earpieces, won’t take a drug test, and needs multiple breaks during the 90-minute debate."
And if you can get to this NYT article, I didn't realize the earpiece thing comes up almost every election since 2000: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/tech ... e=Homepage
C'mon. Every gosh darn thing is a conspiracy.
They just had a clip on NBC nightly news, I think in MI farm country. Asked a group of older farmers, at least 10-20 of them -- How many believe Covid was a Chinese plot against the US? I believe they all raised their hands. This is what we've gotten to.
If that was the plan, to divide us with this virus, it sure has worked. Not that Trump wasn't already doing a good job himself.
And this earpiece thing is already part of the conspiracy deal. Convenient. If he does so well, it must have been drugs. Or earpiece. Or something....hmmmm....
From Fox News. I guess we'll see who's lying:
Kate Bedingfield, Biden’s deputy campaign manager, called the Trump campaign’s request “absurd” in a call with reporters. She also denied the claim that the campaign had asked for breaks.
"His staff seems concerned that he may not do well tonight and they’re already laying the groundwork for how they’re going to lie about why," Bedingfield emphasized. "It is completely absurd. Of course, he’s not wearing an earpiece and we never asked for breaks."
Bedingfield, speaking with reporters, added that "if we’re playing that game, the Trump team asked that Chris Wallace never mention the number of COVID deaths once during the debate. You can considered that confirmed from the Biden campaign. See how easy that was to try and throw out a distraction. It is pathetic. It’s weak. Once again the Trump campaign is lying. They’re going to process because they don’t want to debate Joe Biden on the substance. You go to process when you can’t go to substance."
Murtaugh fired back that "This is a lie and it never happened. This is the height of playing politics with a public health crisis. Biden is trying to distract from the facts that he won’t submit to an inspection for earpieces, won’t take a drug test, and needs multiple breaks during the 90-minute debate."
And if you can get to this NYT article, I didn't realize the earpiece thing comes up almost every election since 2000: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/tech ... e=Homepage
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What difference do drugs make anyways? He could be on 1000mg of test everyday..I don't care. What else..Adderall...like almost all of our college students...Cialis? Why does it even matter?
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Agreed. The presidential candidates should be allowed to take whatever performance-enhancing drugs they want beforehand. I would pay money to watch that debate!
If they both ate a few psilocybin mushrooms, it would probably be the most interesting and groundbreaking presidential debate in the history of the republic.
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I agree. As I've said before, I also think professional sport (and everyone else, for that matter) s should completely ignore PED use.
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Re: Biden Reportedly Asked For Debate Breaks, REFUSES To Get Inspected For Ear Piece Or Do Drug Test
This debate sucks...I’m for turning the other guys mike off during the non open sections.
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Two old fart white guys yelling at one another. We need upper age limits.
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For all debates....when the moderator says 30 seconds left...when that light goes off after 30 seconds the microphone should automatically go off. I can guarantee you that after this happens twice, everyone debating will actually plan what they have to say so that they do end even BEFORE the 30 seconds is up.
I'm still listening to the Yankees post game show so I will not be switching to the debate until that ends. I do have the debate on on one these monitors but video only, no sound. Will have plenty of time to later listen to it two or three times.
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Re: Biden Reportedly Asked For Debate Breaks, REFUSES To Get Inspected For Ear Piece Or Do Drug Test
Presidentus Interruptus is all I got from this. Biden held his own. Looked presidential.
I am biased. If Trump supporters think he did well you've got TDS level 10
I am biased. If Trump supporters think he did well you've got TDS level 10
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I suspect they largely are already. I dispute they are harmful in the long term.tomfoolery wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:51 pmI'm torn on this. Because the counter point is that it makes professional sports unaccessible to people unwilling to inject PEDs, which are indisputably harmful in the long-term.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:44 pm I agree. As I've said before, I also think professional sport (and everyone else, for that matter) s should completely ignore PED use.
Agreed.So you have someone who wants to be a pro athlete, and before a PED ban was actually the most naturally gifted and could excel, but post-PED ban did not want to take steroids or HGH, and then was not able to perform well enough to be a pro athlete anymore. Because PEDs really do give enormous performance gains, primarily in recovery, allowing you to train more with less down time.
Agreed. Well, the first part. I don't think it would suck for athletes. AFAIK most people on PEDS say they're fucking awesome.So as a fan watching the sport, if athletes were on PEDs, it would be more exciting, but it seems to suck for the athletes who are then required to take PEDs essentially.
Bodies can be destroyed on PEDS or without them. PEDS help you recover from training, but you can also push yourself too hard and break yourself, so that's a wash.The sticky point for me is that most pro athletes have to destroy their bodies even in absence of PEDs. All of the training involved in brutal and most athletes in impact sports can't compete past 35, and have problems with activities of daily living starting in their 40s due to torn knee/shoulder, arthritis, etc.
No, just ignore usage. If someone is better than someone else without using PEDS, that's awesome, I wouldn't presume to DEMAND they take them. If they want to damage themselves in order to achieve greatness, who am I to tell them they can't? As a spectator, I just want to see greatness; it's poetry in motion.So maybe even with a PED ban, we are asking athletes to destroy their bodies, so why not also demand they take PEDs too? And destroy them further. What's the arbitrary cut off for how much damage we should encourage/allow athletes to damage their bodies? Should we go a step further and beyond banning PEDs, also ban training more than X hours a week? Ban training unless a doctor clears your previous injuries, with no personal responsbility or choice in the matter?
Maybe that could happen, sure. But in the only sport that does this, bodybuilding, nobody cares who the best "natural" bodybuilder is (it's disputed whether they are on PEDS or not), only who the best one is.Tough question to answer. Perhaps a PED and non-PED division could exist. Like we have men and females as separate divisions. Men are biologically stronger and more athletic than woman so we don't ask them to compete together. And PED-enhanced men are more biologically stronger than non-enhanced men. The challenge would be as an audience member, I wouldn't want to watch an MMA fight of non-PED fighters because it would be boring in comparison to PED-based fights.
Yea, now you're sounding like someone I could have a beer with.I say that having seen fighters on PEDs before testing was good, before they were popped and they were way more exciting as fighters back then. But, it's the same problem with men and women's division. No body watches female professional sports. So the difference then becomes, woman can't become men to change divisions and compete in the more popular men's division, but non-PED men could become PED-men by injecting steroids, so the pressure to shift divisions would be strong.
In summary, screw it, allow PEDs and let the free market figure it out.
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I'm with you there. When you pay someone millions of dollars to win, it's not reasonable to say:tomfoolery wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:51 pm In summary, screw it, allow PEDs and let the free market figure it out.
"but you can't do whatever it takes."
Yeah...
Are you not entertained?
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Speaking of, I think my testosterone just went up triple digits just watching that clip.
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Before the 3rd question I thought it was pretty hilarious, but it got a bit tired; later on in my notes I wrote "debates are still terrible format." Still, I didn't think Biden looked very good at any point.MangoMan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:06 pmI found Trumps' interruptions annoying. Biden did not look as pathetic as I expected, but he still stumbled repeatedly and said 'BTW' 20 times too many. Trump looked more confident, and seemed to believe everything he said. I'm not convinced Biden had that degree of confidence.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:46 pm Presidentus Interruptus is all I got from this. Biden held his own. Looked presidential.
I am biased. If Trump supporters think he did well you've got TDS level 10
Debate goes to Trump.
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I missed parts of the debate, but I did catch a part where Biden claimed to be supportive of law enforcement. Trump responded by asking, “Oh, really? Okay, name one law enforcement organization that endorses you.”
After a brief, awkward moment of silence, Biden tried to change the subject without answering the question.
After a brief, awkward moment of silence, Biden tried to change the subject without answering the question.
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My favorite was when the mod asked Biden about Obamacare, and Trump kept badgering him because Biden is pointedly ignoring the question and asking people to go out and vote, and Biden goes "will you shut up, man?" Then the mod is like "well, let's move on I guess" and Biden sarcastically says "yea, what a productive segment." About the question that he was not even attempting to answer! I think his handlers told him to use that line at some point and he pretty much flubbed it.
Or when, talking about the 'rona, Biden looks at the camera and says "You don't panic, HE does." Well, explain the Great Toilet Paper Crisis then, Joe
Or when, talking about the 'rona, Biden looks at the camera and says "You don't panic, HE does." Well, explain the Great Toilet Paper Crisis then, Joe
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Yea, that part was savage. It didn't even feel like a BRIEF moment, it felt like it went on for a while, like Biden was hoping for the mod to save him or something.Tortoise wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:23 pm I missed parts of the debate, but I did catch a part where Biden claimed to be supportive of law enforcement. Trump responded by asking, “Oh, really? Okay, name one law enforcement organization that endorses you.”
After a brief, awkward moment of silence, Biden tried to change the subject without answering the question.
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Graphic: The topics the candidates talked about in the first presidential debate
Track what President Donald Trump and Joe Biden talked about and how much they stayed on topic at the first presidential debate.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... c-n1241389
Track what President Donald Trump and Joe Biden talked about and how much they stayed on topic at the first presidential debate.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... c-n1241389
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Frankly none of you guys matter. US national elections are about swinging the middle one way or another.
Biden dispelled categorically dementia, though it’s clear he is old and at times has trouble forming a sentence.
Trump was flat our annoying. So much so I almost feel like casting a protest vote.
Neither of them “killed it” nor were killed by it.
Tie. Let’s see what rounds 2 and 3 bring.
Biden dispelled categorically dementia, though it’s clear he is old and at times has trouble forming a sentence.
Trump was flat our annoying. So much so I almost feel like casting a protest vote.
Neither of them “killed it” nor were killed by it.
Tie. Let’s see what rounds 2 and 3 bring.