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Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:32 pm
by pp4me
Tucker began talking about parallels between today and the early part of the previous century. Found it quite interesting and I intend to look into it some more....

https://allthatsinteresting.com/anarchy ... 20America.

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:12 pm
by pp4me
The only negotiating table the Antifa/BLM rioters should be sitting at with the government is the one where their lawyers are plea bargaining for lighter sentences.

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:31 pm
by doodle
That's what the British said about our founding fathers as well. History is full of pissed off people in the street lashing out. I wish they would avoid targeting small folk....unfortunately a lot of dumbasses wrapped up in the movement

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:33 pm
by pugchief
doodle wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:31 pm
That's what the British said about our founding fathers as well.
The Founding Fathers would be rolling in their graves if they knew what was happening with Antifa/BLM.

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:34 pm
by doodle
Oppression? They might have some understanding Again, the targeting of small civilian business is bad move...

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:36 pm
by doodle
Unfortunately the movement is lacking brains....although people have a right be fed up they need clear messaging and organization....same issue led to downfall of occupy wall street

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:43 pm
by doodle
Also pugchief, I think your version of events leading up to revolutionary war is a bit too sanitized....tarring and feathering, destruction of private property, mobs in streets. I don't think founding fathers would be too surprised that citizens are up in arms in streets that modern aristocracy has made a sham out of our democracy.

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:02 pm
by Kriegsspiel
There's absolutely no way the Founding Fathers would have been sympathetic to BLM/Antifa, seeing as how they were all racist Nazis. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:03 pm
by pugchief
doodle wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:43 pm
Also pugchief, I think your version of events leading up to revolutionary war is a bit too sanitized....tarring and feathering, destruction of private property, mobs in streets. I don't think founding fathers would be too surprised that citizens are up in arms in streets that modern aristocracy has made a sham out of our democracy.
No, you got it right several posts up. How does ruining the lives of small business owners (including black ones) further the cause of blacks?

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:30 pm
by Libertarian666
pp4me wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:12 pm
The only negotiating table the Antifa/BLM rioters should be sitting at with the government is the one where their lawyers are plea bargaining for lighter sentences.
Exactly.

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:22 am
by doodle
pugchief wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:03 pm
doodle wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:43 pm
Also pugchief, I think your version of events leading up to revolutionary war is a bit too sanitized....tarring and feathering, destruction of private property, mobs in streets. I don't think founding fathers would be too surprised that citizens are up in arms in streets that modern aristocracy has made a sham out of our democracy.
No, you got it right several posts up. How does ruining the lives of small business owners (including black ones) further the cause of blacks?
It doesn't, it's stupid. But how does that negate the legitimacy of their complaints? You confusing the messenger with the message.

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:19 pm
by vnatale
Back to the choice of music / songs played at Trump's rallies.

The first time I heard this song being played I told myself, "This is NOT a song I'd play at a Trump rally."

Lately I've been hearing this being the first song played after Trump concludes speaking. (Just heard it again after listening to his recent Reno, Nevada rally.)

Reading the below....definitely seems like a song directed at the Trump crowd.....if you don't know what you are doing when you chose songs to play!

Vinny

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y.M.C.A._(song)

Taken at face value, the song's lyrics extol the virtues of the Young Men's Christian Association. However, in the gay culture from which the Village People stemmed, the song was implicitly understood as celebrating YMCA's reputation as a popular cruising and hookup spot, particularly for the younger men to whom it was addressed.[14] The initial goal of Village People producers Morali and Belolo was to attract disco's gay audience by featuring popular gay fantasy in their music.[15] Although co-creator Morali was gay and the group was initially intended to target gay men, the group became more popular and more mainstream over time.[16]

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:24 pm
by Mark Leavy
The Donald speaks to you Vinny. I'm just the messenger. I don't do interpretations :)

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Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:05 pm
by stuper1
See, most people, even including Trump supporters, just like a fun catchy tune and lyrics. They couldn't care less if some perverts also like the same song. And of course everybody knows the song is by and for perverts. Trump's DJ knows for sure that the song doesn't bother any supporters. So they play the song. Trump's supporters enjoy it. Plus he gets free publicity when the perverted liberals complain that he is stealing their music. It's a win-win. Trump knows all about win-wins.

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:56 pm
by Mark Leavy
stuper1 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:05 pm
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And of course everybody knows the song is by and for perverts. Trump's DJ knows for sure that the song doesn't bother any supporters. So they play the song. Trump's supporters enjoy it. Plus he gets free publicity when the perverted liberals complain that he is stealing their music. It's a win-win. Trump knows all about win-wins.
This is why I don't do interpretations.
I never would have guessed that this is the real reason. 8)

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:25 pm
by vnatale
Mark Leavy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:24 pm
The Donald speaks to you Vinny. I'm just the messenger. I don't do interpretations :)


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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks! I will read the thread! I thought I was the ONLY one who noticed!

Vinny

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:26 pm
by vnatale
stuper1 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:05 pm
See, most people, even including Trump supporters, just like a fun catchy tune and lyrics. They couldn't care less if some perverts also like the same song. And of course everybody knows the song is by and for perverts. Trump's DJ knows for sure that the song doesn't bother any supporters. So they play the song. Trump's supporters enjoy it. Plus he gets free publicity when the perverted liberals complain that he is stealing their music. It's a win-win. Trump knows all about win-wins.
So when do I get to hear the Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil?

Vinny

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:27 pm
by vnatale
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Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:38 pm
by vnatale
Mark Leavy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:24 pm
The Donald speaks to you Vinny. I'm just the messenger. I don't do interpretations :)


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Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:21 pm
by vnatale
Mark Leavy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:24 pm
The Donald speaks to you Vinny. I'm just the messenger. I don't do interpretations :)


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Did you read the thread?

I just started reading them. At first I was going to say 2 out of 3 responders were ant-Trump. Then I was going to raise it to 75%. Then 80%. Now, as I keep reading I'd say 90%.

On his own Twitter account why are so (relatively) few of his supporters chiming in? That does NOT seem to bode well for the election given that these ARE responses under Trump's retweet.

Vinny

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:34 pm
by Mark Leavy
vnatale wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:21 pm
Mark Leavy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:24 pm
The Donald speaks to you Vinny. I'm just the messenger. I don't do interpretations :)


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Did you read the thread?
I'm not interested in the chatter at all, Vinny. I just thought it was funny that the President himself addressed your question.

I've said this before, but in case anyone missed it. I don't vote. I never vote. The ROI is too low. I arrange my life so that I can walk around any form of government that doesn't suit me.

Mark

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:37 pm
by vnatale
Mark Leavy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:34 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:21 pm
Mark Leavy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:24 pm
The Donald speaks to you Vinny. I'm just the messenger. I don't do interpretations :)


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Did you read the thread?
I'm not interested in the chatter at all, Vinny. I just thought it was funny that the President himself addressed your question.

I've said this before, but in case anyone missed it. I don't vote. I never vote. The ROI is too low. I arrange my life so that I can walk around any form of government that doesn't suit me.

Mark
I don't think I missed it. Just forgot it. But good find on your part. I liked doing the subsequent follow up.

Vinny

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:02 pm
by Libertarian666
vnatale wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:38 pm
Mark Leavy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:24 pm
The Donald speaks to you Vinny. I'm just the messenger. I don't do interpretations :)


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You forgot one little detail:
Assuming all that is perfectly accurate, he got elected President of the USA with no prior political or military experience, a feat never previously accomplished by anyone.

I would say that makes him a marketing genius.

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:10 pm
by vnatale
Libertarian666 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:56 pm
vnatale wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:21 pm
Mark Leavy wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:24 pm
The Donald speaks to you Vinny. I'm just the messenger. I don't do interpretations :)


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Did you read the thread?

I just started reading them. At first I was going to say 2 out of 3 responders were ant-Trump. Then I was going to raise it to 75%. Then 80%. Now, as I keep reading I'd say 90%.

On his own Twitter account why are so (relatively) few of his supporters chiming in? That does NOT seem to bode well for the election given that these ARE responses under Trump's retweet.

Vinny
Twitter is primarily a left-wing echo chamber.
Yes, a lot of his supporters have signed up to read his tweets, but most of them don't comment.
Both fact? Or, your opinion?

On my Twitter list that I've created I get tons of tweets from Trump supporters who are not shy of stating their views.

Vinny

Re: Eight more years?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:50 am
by shekels
vnatale wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:26 pm
stuper1 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:05 pm
See, most people, even including Trump supporters, just like a fun catchy tune and lyrics. They couldn't care less if some perverts also like the same song. And of course everybody knows the song is by and for perverts. Trump's DJ knows for sure that the song doesn't bother any supporters. So they play the song. Trump's supporters enjoy it. Plus he gets free publicity when the perverted liberals complain that he is stealing their music. It's a win-win. Trump knows all about win-wins.
So when do I get to hear the Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil?

Vinny
That would be at a Biden Rally,If you can find one.