Gun Poll

[vnatale]

Great point! My brother told me recently that the riots motivated him to become a first-time gun owner, but the particular rifle he wants is completely sold out everywhere he’s looked.

Must all guns in our country now have to be bought in person? Meaning no more Lee Harvey Oswald mail order purchases?

Vinny

[vnatale]

Great point! My brother told me recently that the riots motivated him to become a first-time gun owner, but the particular rifle he wants is completely sold out everywhere he’s looked.

Must all guns in our country now have to be bought in person? Meaning no more Lee Harvey Oswald mail order purchases?

Vinny

No. I bought mine online. They have to be shipped to a licensed FFL where you pay a small fee (~$30) and they process all the paperwork for you. Lots in stock at https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/ and https://www.budsgunshop.com/

Don't know what a FFL is but I suspect the answer might be that a Lee Harvey Oswald today would no longer be able to have the gun delivered directly to his house.

Vinny

federal firearms license

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License

so you can have it shipped to a local dealer or neighborhood gunsmith.. but not your house unless you have a ffl..

[Tortoise]

My brother has looked everywhere for the rifle he wants, including online. It isn't in stock anywhere right now.

[vnatale]

Great point! My brother told me recently that the riots motivated him to become a first-time gun owner, but the particular rifle he wants is completely sold out everywhere he’s looked.

Must all guns in our country now have to be bought in person? Meaning no more Lee Harvey Oswald mail order purchases?

Vinny

No. I bought mine online. They have to be shipped to a licensed FFL where you pay a small fee (~$30) and they process all the paperwork for you. Lots in stock at https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/ and https://www.budsgunshop.com/

Both of them sell Glock's, the most familiar gun to me after reading an entire book about that gun.

Could not tell if the first one sold them online as they all seemed to be unavailable. The second stated that they had to be bought in-store.

Vinny

[Kriegsspiel]

I would like to buy a guy but everybody else got to Cabela's before I did; the cases are picked clean; and the sales people don't know when the new stock will come in.

You can also check Palmetto State Armory if you decide to order online.

Both of them sell Glock's, the most familiar gun to me after reading an entire book about that gun.

Could not tell if the first one sold them online as they all seemed to be unavailable. The second stated that they had to be bought in-store.

Vinny

The one by Barrett (heh)? I read that too, good book. Before I bought my Glock the only other pistol I'd shot was an issued Beretta 92. I like the Glock much more.

[Mountaineer]

I would like to buy a guy but everybody else got to Cabela's before I did; the cases are picked clean; and the sales people don't know when the new stock will come in.

You can also check Palmetto State Armory if you decide to order online.

Both of them sell Glock's, the most familiar gun to me after reading an entire book about that gun.

Could not tell if the first one sold them online as they all seemed to be unavailable. The second stated that they had to be bought in-store.

Vinny

The one by Barrett (heh)? I read that too, good book. Before I bought my Glock the only other pistol I'd shot was an issued Beretta 92. I like the Glock much more.

You should try a Colt 1911 or one of its knock-offs. The 1911 in 45ACP is a dream to shoot compared to a Glock 36 (which uses the same 45ACP ammo). Plus, the mechanical workmanship of the 1911 is wonderful if you are into the aesthetics of such - metal or plastic/metal, they both have good points. I like both the Colt and the Glock for reliability and ease of cleaning.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/q7X3QaG2_QM/maxresdefault.jpg

[vnatale]

I would like to buy a guy but everybody else got to Cabela's before I did; the cases are picked clean; and the sales people don't know when the new stock will come in.

You can also check Palmetto State Armory if you decide to order online.

Both of them sell Glock's, the most familiar gun to me after reading an entire book about that gun.

Could not tell if the first one sold them online as they all seemed to be unavailable. The second stated that they had to be bought in-store.

Vinny

The one by Barrett (heh)? I read that too, good book. Before I bought my Glock the only other pistol I'd shot was an issued Beretta 92. I like the Glock much more.

Yes: Glock: The Rise of America's Gun

One of those good ones I read in two days.

By the way, someone I know who is highly knowledgeable about guns told me that Glocks are illegal to own in Massachusetts. I forgot what is the reason.

Vinny

[Tortoise]

By the way, someone I know who is highly knowledgeable about guns told me that Glocks are illegal to own in Massachusetts. I forgot what is the reason.

The bureaucrats in Massachusetts have probably forgotten the reason, too.

[vnatale]

By the way, someone I know who is highly knowledgeable about guns told me that Glocks are illegal to own in Massachusetts. I forgot what is the reason.

The bureaucrats in Massachusetts have probably forgotten the reason, too.

I found this:

Attorney General Maura Healey's investigation into Glock guns gets green light to continue
Updated Jan 07, 2019; Posted Nov 07, 2016

https://www.masslive.com/politics/2016/ ... y_con.html

Glock does not sell pistols directly to Massachusetts consumers because the guns do not conform with Massachusetts' safety requirements. But the company does sell to law enforcement and to wholesalers. State data relating to gun sales and private transfers found that there were 10,800 Glock handguns sold in Massachusetts between Jan. 1, 2014 and Aug. 13, 2015.

Vinny

[Maddy]

There really ought to be a fourth option for answering this poll: "I'm not gonna say."

[jhogue]

I would like to buy a guy but everybody else got to Cabela's before I did; the cases are picked clean; and the sales people don't know when the new stock will come in.

You can also check Palmetto State Armory if you decide to order online.

Both of them sell Glock's, the most familiar gun to me after reading an entire book about that gun.

Could not tell if the first one sold them online as they all seemed to be unavailable. The second stated that they had to be bought in-store.

Vinny

The one by Barrett (heh)? I read that too, good book. Before I bought my Glock the only other pistol I'd shot was an issued Beretta 92. I like the Glock much more.

You should try a Colt 1911 or one of its knock-offs. The 1911 in 45ACP is a dream to shoot compared to a Glock 36 (which uses the same 45ACP ammo). Plus, the mechanical workmanship of the 1911 is wonderful if you are into the aesthetics of such - metal or plastic/metal, they both have good points. I like both the Colt and the Glock for reliability and ease of cleaning.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/q7X3QaG2_QM/maxresdefault.jpg

I like Walthers and SIGs, but I am partial to German and Swiss craftsmanship. Also, my Colt 1911 Combat Commander was not really a concealable weapon.

[Mountaineer]

There really ought to be a fourth option for answering this poll: "I'm not gonna say."

+1

[Mountaineer]

I would like to buy a guy but everybody else got to Cabela's before I did; the cases are picked clean; and the sales people don't know when the new stock will come in.

You can also check Palmetto State Armory if you decide to order online.

Both of them sell Glock's, the most familiar gun to me after reading an entire book about that gun.

Could not tell if the first one sold them online as they all seemed to be unavailable. The second stated that they had to be bought in-store.

Vinny

The one by Barrett (heh)? I read that too, good book. Before I bought my Glock the only other pistol I'd shot was an issued Beretta 92. I like the Glock much more.

You should try a Colt 1911 or one of its knock-offs. The 1911 in 45ACP is a dream to shoot compared to a Glock 36 (which uses the same 45ACP ammo). Plus, the mechanical workmanship of the 1911 is wonderful if you are into the aesthetics of such - metal or plastic/metal, they both have good points. I like both the Colt and the Glock for reliability and ease of cleaning.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/q7X3QaG2_QM/maxresdefault.jpg

I like Walthers and SIGs, but I am partial to German and Swiss craftsmanship.

Nice. I’ve not handled them, guns that is, but I do admire German vehicles. And Swiss ancestry women.

[pp4me]

There really ought to be a fourth option for answering this poll: "I'm not gonna say."

+1

Another one might be "I don't but I WILL if BLM protesters start coming near my neighborhood".

[Tortoise]

There really ought to be a fourth option for answering this poll: "I'm not gonna say."

+1

Both of you do realize this is an anonymous poll, right?

[Kriegsspiel]

There really ought to be a fourth option for answering this poll: "I'm not gonna say."

+1

Another one might be "I don't but I WILL if BLM protesters start coming near my neighborhood".

Too late, then. You can get a servicable weapon and ammo for a few hundred bucks, why wait? Well, maybe the ammo is more expensive now, but that's the price you pay for waiting.

[pp4me]

There really ought to be a fourth option for answering this poll: "I'm not gonna say."

+1

Another one might be "I don't but I WILL if BLM protesters start coming near my neighborhood".

Too late, then. You can get a servicable weapon and ammo for a few hundred bucks, why wait? Well, maybe the ammo is more expensive now, but that's the price you pay for waiting.

I developed an extreme distaste for guns in my youth but I will overcome it if I have to.

[Lonestar]

By the way, someone I know who is highly knowledgeable about guns told me that Glocks are illegal to own in Massachusetts. I forgot what is the reason.

The bureaucrats in Massachusetts have probably forgotten the reason, too.

I found this:

Attorney General Maura Healey's investigation into Glock guns gets green light to continue
Updated Jan 07, 2019; Posted Nov 07, 2016

https://www.masslive.com/politics/2016/ ... y_con.html

Glock does not sell pistols directly to Massachusetts consumers because the guns do not conform with Massachusetts' safety requirements. But the company does sell to law enforcement and to wholesalers. State data relating to gun sales and private transfers found that there were 10,800 Glock handguns sold in Massachusetts between Jan. 1, 2014 and Aug. 13, 2015.

Vinny

The statement regarding Glock not selling directly to MA consumers is somewhat misleading. Glock does not sell directly to any consumer! Only to distributors and LE agencies.

The media would have you believe that one can order handguns and rifles online, and have them show up in your mailbox. Not so. Even private transfers that are shipped must go through FFL dealers.

As stated before, you can order a gun from an online dealer but it must be shipped directly to an FFL (Federal Firearms License) dealer. Then, following your state's specific laws and filling out an BATF form 4473, and passing a NICS background check, the FFL will pass the firearm along to you. It's no different than walking into a gun store and making a purchase. Same restrictions.

I have listened to so many irresponsible and erroneous comments from the anti-gun media that apparently are nothing more than a feeble attempt to make the public think anybody can purchase a gun online with absolutely no regulation. NO WAY!

[I Shrugged]

I feel like I posted this several weeks ago in another thread. But, I have several friends and acquaintances who are now first time gun owners. This started before George Floyd. A Covid thing I think. It's hard to keep all of the 2020 fun times straight in my mind.

[pp4me]

I feel like I posted this several weeks ago in another thread. But, I have several friends and acquaintances who are now first time gun owners. This started before George Floyd. A Covid thing I think. It's hard to keep all of the 2020 fun times straight in my mind.

I posted in another thread about the small town next to mine where the city council decided to put up a BLM sign in front of city hall and how people were already at each other's throats about it on Nextdoor. I rode my bike through the city the other day and now there are signs all along the beach that say "Black Lives Matter and Justice for all". I suppose there might actually be a black person living there but I've never seen one.

Any way, a friend of mine who lives there decided to buy a gun and I'm guessing he's not the only one. So I guess you would have to say that BLM signs are at least good for gun sales.