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Re: Jeff Bezos is Now Worth 200 Billion
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:47 am
by Maddy
There is a very odd movement afoot, most prominently in the Yale and Columbia circles (which have always embraced a leftist revolutionary slant on the law), to dismantle the law and legal system as we know it and to usher in a system known as "reflexive law." When I first heard this term, I was skeptical, since after many decades in litigation and legal analysis there aren't many legal concepts with which I'm unfamiliar.
It took reading a number of very lengthy law review articles coming out of these institutions, and to get past all the double-talk and euphemisms, to understand what they were really talking about.
Once I understood where they were coming from (and it isn't easy), I immediately saw that they were not talking about "law" at all. What they are advocating is in essence a system of behavior modification whereby instantaneous rewards and punishments are used as a tool of coercion to manage, right down to the minutest detail, both individuals and societies. It assumes a complex, highly integrated, system of monitoring and control over both the production and use of resources which would be achieved through a coordinated, highly networked system of feedback such as those envisioned for "smart cities" using 5G technology. I believe that China was, and is, the prototype for this kind of system.
Watch this development, as I guarantee it's only getting started. If you ever read Waldon Two, it's time to read it again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden_Two
Re: Jeff Bezos is Now Worth 200 Billion
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:53 pm
by Libertarian666
I guess that's equivalent to calling me a Nazi?
(Not you, of course, Mark).
Re: Jeff Bezos is Now Worth 200 Billion
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:47 pm
by doodle
Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:31 pm
doodle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:42 pm
Ok, so I'm a bit confused...in this anarchocapitalist world there would no longer exist nation's / countries....so in essence we would live in a borderless world...free to move and travel and live wherever we wished without government interference. So why the support for nationalistic patriotic populism of Trump? Aren't these immigrants flowing across our borders simply anarchocapitalists filling the needs of the free market? After all, they are coming here for work.
If you are arguing for abolishing the US government, I agree with you.
However, as long as we have a government, the taxpayers are paying all the costs of illegal immigration, as well as all the other costs of government. You can't have open borders and a welfare state, or you will be overrun by grifters wanting a handout.
So before we open the borders, we need to get rid of all forms of welfare, including any kind of government-paid services, e.g., Medicare or Medicain. We also need to eliminate all business regulation, all gun control and all drug laws. In addition, property owners must have the absolute right to exclude anyone from their property for any reason or no reason.
I may have overlooked something, but I think that's close enough to allow opening the borders.
Ending the issue of illegal immigration would be a lot easier if Trump would set his sites on hitting employers with stiff fines and or jail sentences. Any idea why he hasn't done this and continues to focus his efforts on the poor employees?
Re: Jeff Bezos is Now Worth 200 Billion
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:49 pm
by doodle
Maddy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:47 am
There is a very odd movement afoot, most prominently in the Yale and Columbia circles (which have always embraced a leftist revolutionary slant on the law), to dismantle the law and legal system as we know it and to usher in a system known as "reflexive law." When I first heard this term, I was skeptical, since after many decades in litigation and legal analysis there aren't many legal concepts with which I'm unfamiliar.
It took reading a number of very lengthy law review articles coming out of these institutions, and to get past all the double-talk and euphemisms, to understand what they were really talking about.
Once I understood where they were coming from (and it isn't easy), I immediately saw that they were not talking about "law" at all. What they are advocating is in essence a system of behavior modification whereby instantaneous rewards and punishments are used as a tool of coercion to manage, right down to the minutest detail, both individuals and societies. It assumes a complex, highly integrated, system of monitoring and control over both the production and use of resources which would be achieved through a coordinated, highly networked system of feedback such as those envisioned for "smart cities" using 5G technology. I believe that China was, and is, the prototype for this kind of system.
Watch this development, as I guarantee it's only getting started. If you ever read Waldon Two, it's time to read it again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walden_Two
Walden Two was very interesting read. I second recommendation.
Re: Jeff Bezos is Now Worth 200 Billion
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:17 am
by WiseOne
doodle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:42 pm
Ending the issue of illegal immigration would be a lot easier if Trump would set his sites on hitting employers with stiff fines and or jail sentences. Any idea why he hasn't done this and continues to focus his efforts on the poor employees?
Really good question and I've wondered the same thing. Specifically, why isn't E-verify mandatory for all employers of any size. It was a key 2016 campaign promise.
This is how enforcement of immigration laws is done in other countries, e.g. the UK and European Union. You'll still get illegal immigrants hanging around on street corners looking for odd jobs to do for cash under the table, but that won't be enough for them to live here on a long-term basis, let alone raise a family here.
Ending welfare might help, but it won't be enough by itself. Illegals will still show up in ERs, and blue cities will continue to give them benefits like food stamps and housing. And the major draw for them will still be the ability to get high paying jobs (compared to what they could get in their home countries).
Re: Jeff Bezos is Now Worth 200 Billion
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:27 pm
by vnatale
Jeff Bezos thought there was a ’30% chance’ Amazon would succeed: I told my parents ‘it’s very likely they’ll lose their entire investment’
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/03/jeff-be ... ter%7Cmain