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Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:30 am
by Xan
glennds wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:11 am
technovelist wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:38 am
pugchief wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:46 pm
technovelist wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:04 pm

However, I believe it is a sign of cultural decay that will eventually reverse when we go back to a more conservative culture.
Hahahaha, you can't be serious (although I wish you were). The US, Canada and Europe are moving further to the left with each passing year. What on earth would make you think that trend won't continue?
I'm completely serious. The US, if it survives, will eventually swing back to a more conservative culture.
That may happen after a serious collapse, but it will happen eventually, if history is any guide.
Remember the Roaring 20s, or the 60's for that matter? What happened after those phases in history?
Wouldn't you agree the Roaring 20's and the end of the Gilded Age came with the Great Depression, which in turn resulted in the progressive action of FDR?
The result was the creation of, among other things, Social Security, farm relief, unemployment benefits, Anti-trust legislation and other Great Deal provisions?
I'm not seeing how the US became more conservative at that time, other than perhaps in global isolationist policy but certainly not domestically.
I believe we're talking about the culture in general, not politically. "conservative" not being a political term, but an outlook/style/temperament/cultural term.

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:00 am
by jalanlong
technovelist wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:38 am
pugchief wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:46 pm
technovelist wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:04 pm

However, I believe it is a sign of cultural decay that will eventually reverse when we go back to a more conservative culture.
Hahahaha, you can't be serious (although I wish you were). The US, Canada and Europe are moving further to the left with each passing year. What on earth would make you think that trend won't continue?
I'm completely serious. The US, if it survives, will eventually swing back to a more conservative culture.
That may happen after a serious collapse, but it will happen eventually, if history is any guide.
Remember the Roaring 20s, or the 60's for that matter? What happened after those phases in history?
Are you taking into account the demographic shift in this county that has been happening and will probably continue to happen going forward? Census projections are that Hispanics will double as a percentage of the US population over the next 30 years. I am not sure you can compare the future American population and their values to the values of Americans in the earlier parts of this century.

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:42 pm
by technovelist
jalanlong wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:00 am
technovelist wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:38 am
pugchief wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:46 pm
technovelist wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:04 pm

However, I believe it is a sign of cultural decay that will eventually reverse when we go back to a more conservative culture.
Hahahaha, you can't be serious (although I wish you were). The US, Canada and Europe are moving further to the left with each passing year. What on earth would make you think that trend won't continue?
I'm completely serious. The US, if it survives, will eventually swing back to a more conservative culture.
That may happen after a serious collapse, but it will happen eventually, if history is any guide.
Remember the Roaring 20s, or the 60's for that matter? What happened after those phases in history?
Are you taking into account the demographic shift in this county that has been happening and will probably continue to happen going forward? Census projections are that Hispanics will double as a percentage of the US population over the next 30 years. I am not sure you can compare the future American population and their values to the values of Americans in the earlier parts of this century.
Once people get successful, they usually become more conservative.
And we already know that Hispanics in general are much more conservative socially (e.g., Christian) than white leftists.

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:44 pm
by technovelist
Xan wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:30 am
glennds wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:11 am
technovelist wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:38 am
pugchief wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:46 pm
technovelist wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:04 pm

However, I believe it is a sign of cultural decay that will eventually reverse when we go back to a more conservative culture.
Hahahaha, you can't be serious (although I wish you were). The US, Canada and Europe are moving further to the left with each passing year. What on earth would make you think that trend won't continue?
I'm completely serious. The US, if it survives, will eventually swing back to a more conservative culture.
That may happen after a serious collapse, but it will happen eventually, if history is any guide.
Remember the Roaring 20s, or the 60's for that matter? What happened after those phases in history?
Wouldn't you agree the Roaring 20's and the end of the Gilded Age came with the Great Depression, which in turn resulted in the progressive action of FDR?
The result was the creation of, among other things, Social Security, farm relief, unemployment benefits, Anti-trust legislation and other Great Deal provisions?
I'm not seeing how the US became more conservative at that time, other than perhaps in global isolationist policy but certainly not domestically.
I believe we're talking about the culture in general, not politically. "conservative" not being a political term, but an outlook/style/temperament/cultural term.
Right. Society during the Great Depression was much more conservative in style and values than it had been during the Roaring 20's.

Yes, FDR took advantage of the economic depression that he helped to cause, as well as the war, by imposing statism in the US. But I think we're already turning away from that economic model, thanks to Trump.

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:06 pm
by Lonestar
jalanlong wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:00 am
technovelist wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:38 am
pugchief wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:46 pm
technovelist wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:04 pm

However, I believe it is a sign of cultural decay that will eventually reverse when we go back to a more conservative culture.
Hahahaha, you can't be serious (although I wish you were). The US, Canada and Europe are moving further to the left with each passing year. What on earth would make you think that trend won't continue?
I'm completely serious. The US, if it survives, will eventually swing back to a more conservative culture.
That may happen after a serious collapse, but it will happen eventually, if history is any guide.
Remember the Roaring 20s, or the 60's for that matter? What happened after those phases in history?
Are you taking into account the demographic shift in this county that has been happening and will probably continue to happen going forward? Census projections are that Hispanics will double as a percentage of the US population over the next 30 years. I am not sure you can compare the future American population and their values to the values of Americans in the earlier parts of this century.
Also, the 30's and 40's had much of the population living in small towns and rural areas. Those folks were culturally conservation by nature. Look at the shift where today most of the populations live in the larger cities.

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:33 pm
by glennds
technovelist wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:44 pm
Xan wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:30 am
glennds wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:11 am


Wouldn't you agree the Roaring 20's and the end of the Gilded Age came with the Great Depression, which in turn resulted in the progressive action of FDR?
The result was the creation of, among other things, Social Security, farm relief, unemployment benefits, Anti-trust legislation and other Great Deal provisions?
I'm not seeing how the US became more conservative at that time, other than perhaps in global isolationist policy but certainly not domestically.
I believe we're talking about the culture in general, not politically. "conservative" not being a political term, but an outlook/style/temperament/cultural term.
Right. Society during the Great Depression was much more conservative in style and values than it had been during the Roaring 20's.

OK, I now see what you were attempting to say, and yes, I agree that cultural style and taste changed and became more conservative after the 20s. Where tattoos might be viewed one day, I can't really say. Anyone getting a tattoo must be comfortable with commitment.

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:39 pm
by technovelist
glennds wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:33 pm
technovelist wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:44 pm
Xan wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:30 am
glennds wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:11 am


Wouldn't you agree the Roaring 20's and the end of the Gilded Age came with the Great Depression, which in turn resulted in the progressive action of FDR?
The result was the creation of, among other things, Social Security, farm relief, unemployment benefits, Anti-trust legislation and other Great Deal provisions?
I'm not seeing how the US became more conservative at that time, other than perhaps in global isolationist policy but certainly not domestically.
I believe we're talking about the culture in general, not politically. "conservative" not being a political term, but an outlook/style/temperament/cultural term.
Right. Society during the Great Depression was much more conservative in style and values than it had been during the Roaring 20's.

OK, I now see what you were attempting to say, and yes, I agree that cultural style and taste changed and became more conservative after the 20s. Where tattoos might be viewed one day, I can't really say. Anyone getting a tattoo must be comfortable with commitment.
Or have a very high rate of time preference.

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:24 pm
by Tortoise
I would imagine that tattoo removal will be a growth industry for at least the next few decades. Business/investment opportunity?

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:57 pm
by Lonestar
If I were a young dermatologist I would look in that direction. I don't see how reversal could be done on the people that have extensive artwork on their body, and I bet it will be costly and painful.

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:35 am
by shekels
Guess how they found, the alleged Portland shooter from last night?

Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:10 pm
by vnatale
If YOU want a tattoo but do not want to make it a lifetime decision you can go here and get a temporary peel-and-stick tattoo for adults that last one to two weeks.

Vinny

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Re: A Current Fad?

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:36 am
by Hal
My anecdote :D
Walking with a Japanese friend behind a young lady. He couldn't stop chuckling about why she had the symbol for a "gate" tattooed on the back of her neck. Motto: check what the symbol means before hand.

PS: Look up what this 4wd model means in Spanish :o
https://www.mitsubishi-motors.com.au/ve ... jero/range