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Re: Apple News App - delete racial justice section?

Post by Kriegsspiel » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:29 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:51 pm
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:40 pm
dualstow wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:19 pm
I’m lovin Tim Pool. I thank Kriegs for that.
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How would you characterize his views?
He seems to be a somewhat tepid liberal Democrat from a couple decades ago.
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Pool's political commentary since the 2016 United States presidential election has been variously described as left-wing[36] and right-wing.[37] He has described himself as a social liberal who supported Bernie Sanders in 2016.
LOL. Tim's talked several times about how his wikipedia page listed him as an "inventor of the zeppelin" or something like that. He said he repeatedly tried to get it taken off, but he couldn't, because it was supported by a news article. His whole thing is about showing how journalists have become full blown political activists and liars, so that is kinda comical. The wikipedia article is an example of the type of misleading journalism he highlights, because it says he's DESCRIBED as left wing or right wing, not that HE IS. So, since Vice wrote an article with the headline Trump Invites Fringe Social Media Company Popular With Nazis to the White House and mentioned Tim Pool in it, it's fair game to put on wikipedia. The wikipedia article says Tim Pool is right wing because of one sentence in a biased opinion piece in a Vice article. Think about all the trash articles that get put out nowadays; you can add to wikipedia articles and support it with them.
According to Politico, Pool's "views on issues including social media bias and immigration often align with conservatives'".[38] According to Al Jazeera, "Pool has amplified claims that conservative media endure persecution and bias at the hands of tech companies."[39] On August 24, 2020, Pool announced his support for President Trump in the 2020 United States presidential election.[40]
I'm pretty sure his stance on immigration is most like that of Democrats from a few decades ago up to the Obama administration. He often says he's been left behind by the Democrat parties extreme lurch leftward. And as far as his view on social media bias aligning with conservatives, that's just because conservatives are correct, he has many videos where he shows why he thinks so. People who don't think social media is biased towards the left is ignorant. I mean, this is from today:
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Since leftist media (the NYT, in this case) is doing everything it can to protect BLM/Antifa, facebook "fact checkers" like former Asst. Press Secretary/Asst. to the Chair for the DNC and Nancy Pelosi fan Liz Bourgeois suppress information, and tell facebook users what they're allowed to read about, or just telling them that it's fake. Project Veritas exposed the third-party fact checkers facebook uses, using hidden cameras, saying they just delete pro-Trump posts even if they don't violate facebook's terms of service (I found out about that PV stuff via, of course, Tim Pool).

If you were just trolling with the wikipedia stuff... then kudos to you.
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Re: Apple News App - delete racial justice section?

Post by vnatale » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:41 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:29 pm
vnatale wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:51 pm
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:40 pm
dualstow wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:19 pm
I’m lovin Tim Pool. I thank Kriegs for that.
THIS PLEASES ME
How would you characterize his views?
He seems to be a somewhat tepid liberal Democrat from a couple decades ago.
Views
Pool's political commentary since the 2016 United States presidential election has been variously described as left-wing[36] and right-wing.[37] He has described himself as a social liberal who supported Bernie Sanders in 2016.
LOL. Tim's talked several times about how his wikipedia page listed him as an "inventor of the zeppelin" or something like that. He said he repeatedly tried to get it taken off, but he couldn't, because it was supported by a news article. His whole thing is about showing how journalists have become full blown political activists and liars, so that is kinda comical. The wikipedia article is an example of the type of misleading journalism he highlights, because it says he's DESCRIBED as left wing or right wing, not that HE IS. So, since Vice wrote an article with the headline Trump Invites Fringe Social Media Company Popular With Nazis to the White House and mentioned Tim Pool in it, it's fair game to put on wikipedia. The wikipedia article says Tim Pool is right wing because of one sentence in a biased opinion piece in a Vice article. Think about all the trash articles that get put out nowadays; you can add to wikipedia articles and support it with them.
According to Politico, Pool's "views on issues including social media bias and immigration often align with conservatives'".[38] According to Al Jazeera, "Pool has amplified claims that conservative media endure persecution and bias at the hands of tech companies."[39] On August 24, 2020, Pool announced his support for President Trump in the 2020 United States presidential election.[40]
I'm pretty sure his stance on immigration is most like that of Democrats from a few decades ago up to the Obama administration. He often says he's been left behind by the Democrat parties extreme lurch leftward. And as far as his view on social media bias aligning with conservatives, that's just because conservatives are correct, he has many videos where he shows why he thinks so. People who don't think social media is biased towards the left is ignorant. I mean, this is from today:
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Since leftist media (the NYT, in this case) is doing everything it can to protect BLM/Antifa, facebook "fact checkers" like former Asst. Press Secretary/Asst. to the Chair for the DNC and Nancy Pelosi fan Liz Bourgeois suppress information, and tell facebook users what they're allowed to read about, or just telling them that it's fake. Project Veritas exposed the third-party fact checkers facebook uses, using hidden cameras, saying they just delete pro-Trump posts even if they don't violate facebook's terms of service (I found out about that PV stuff via, of course, Tim Pool).

If you were just trolling with the wikipedia stuff... then kudos to you.
No. I'd read the references to him here. And, did a Bing search on him to find out more about him. First thing that came up was the Wikipedia entry. So read it all and the ending part was his Views. Wanted to bring it back here to see whether anyone here was or was not agreement on his "described" views.

We do or did have a prodigious wikipedia editor here in this forum?

It seemed to be a relatively short wikipedia by the standards of much longer ones I've read. That would seem to indicate that there is not that much interest in him right now which, I assume, would lead to not as many people being interested in making certain all about him that was stated there was totally accurate.

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Re: Apple News App - delete racial justice section?

Post by sophie » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:59 pm

Short answer to Vinny's question: Tim is a former liberal Democrat who has decided to throw his support to Trump and the Republican party because he is horrified and angry at the crazy s***t the Democrats are trying to pull. His anger appears genuine and is well justified in his "Timcasts".

Timcast is a must-see, and I wish more people had his integrity and clear-sightedness. It amazes me how successful the Democrats are in getting people to swallow their worldview. The big cities are all hunky-dory. Police are an unqualified evil. America is congenitally and irredeemably racist. Everything bad in the world is Trump's fault. COVID-19 is killing babies everywhere. At what point do you wake up and smell the coffee?
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Re: Apple News App - delete racial justice section?

Post by technovelist » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:34 pm

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You'd enjoy one of Tim Pool's recent "Timcasts", where he discusses that very issue. That is, the Democrats are trying their hardest to emphasize how badly Trump handled the coronavirus, while drawing attention away from issues that the voters actually say are most important to them: the economy and security/safety.

I'm given to wonder though. What should Trump have done differently? And what have the Democrats done, or wanted to do, that was so much better? I answered a similar question previously: I think Trump should have established guiding principles for lockdowns on a national level, thus codifying something similar to Sweden's approach. This would be a light touch on the economy and stringent measures to protect the elderly and nursing homes. Basically the polar opposite of what New York did.
According to Biden, he would do lots of things differently.
Unfortunately for his case, everything he has said he would do differently was something that Trump has already done.
I assume that Sweden has a more centralized government than the US, where the states are responsible for most issues other than foreign affairs. The President really doesn't have a lot of authority over most domestic issues.
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Re: Apple News App - delete racial justice section?

Post by technovelist » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:38 pm

sophie wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:59 pm
Short answer to Vinny's question: Tim is a former liberal Democrat who has decided to throw his support to Trump and the Republican party because he is horrified and angry at the crazy s***t the Democrats are trying to pull. His anger appears genuine and is well justified in his "Timcasts".

Timcast is a must-see, and I wish more people had his integrity and clear-sightedness. It amazes me how successful the Democrats are in getting people to swallow their worldview. The big cities are all hunky-dory. Police are an unqualified evil. America is congenitally and irredeemably racist. Everything bad in the world is Trump's fault. COVID-19 is killing babies everywhere. At what point do you wake up and smell the coffee?
Yes, he is great. His basic position is "I don't agree with everything Trump does but the Democrats are insane so there's no choice."
Another analyst who is amusing and very insightful much of the time (although he goes off the rails sometimes) is Scott Adams.
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Re: Apple News App - delete racial justice section?

Post by sophie » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:02 am

Hey dualstow, check your phone. On mine, the "Racial Justice" section no longer appears!

Since BLM support has now dropped and is not much higher than it was before the George Floyd murder, this isn't going to the Democratic wedge issue they were hoping for. Apple news has responded accordingly. I suppose that's to be expected, as they too are effectively part of the Biden campaign.

(p.s. isn't that kinda against the law? As in, if a media outlet is actively supporting a candidate with their slant and choice of news articles, shouldn't that be reported as a campaign contribution??)
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Re: Apple News App - delete racial justice section?

Post by technovelist » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:04 pm

sophie wrote:
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Hey dualstow, check your phone. On mine, the "Racial Justice" section no longer appears!

Since BLM support has now dropped and is not much higher than it was before the George Floyd murder, this isn't going to the Democratic wedge issue they were hoping for. Apple news has responded accordingly. I suppose that's to be expected, as they too are effectively part of the Biden campaign.

(p.s. isn't that kinda against the law? As in, if a media outlet is actively supporting a candidate with their slant and choice of news articles, shouldn't that be reported as a campaign contribution??)
Of course it should be, which means that the executives at CNN and MSNBC, the Washington Post, the NY Times, ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, and PBS should be in jail.

But given the corruption in the government, I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: Apple News App - delete racial justice section?

Post by dualstow » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:20 am

sophie wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:02 am
Hey dualstow, check your phone. On mine, the "Racial Justice" section no longer appears!
Still on the ipad, unfortunately. Racial justice. :-/
At least the internet speed here at my folks’ place is a blazing 145/133. I can download racial justice stories at the speed of light.
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Re: Apple News App - delete racial justice section?

Post by I Shrugged » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:23 pm

At the moment, Racial Justice and COVID-19 categories are locked into Apple News.
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