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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by pugchief » Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:54 am

And since that article is from 2015, you can add 5 years to each CEO's age.
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by pp4me » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:49 am

I was always impressed with Jack Bogle whenever I saw him doing interviews in his later years. Physically he always looked like he was already well past his expiration date but his mind seemed to be as sharp as ever. Another Boglehead, Taylor Larimore who is now 96 still makes insightful posts over on the forum.

I'm 71 and I sure hope I'm doing better than Biden is six years from now. I know that he suffered two brain aneurysms which led to surgery in 1988 so maybe this has something to do with his rapid decline. My impression of him over the years was that he was always sort of a buffoon but at least he was an articulate one. He still does seem to rise to the occasion every once in a while although I can't tell if it's only because he's reading from a teleprompter or not. Chris Wallace asked one of his spokesmen if he was doing that during so-called question and answer sessions last night and he gave a non-answer to the question which I took as a yes.
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by sophie » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:00 pm

technovelist wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:56 am
[Biden] is far enough gone and declining too fast for them to keep up the pretense much longer.
I moved this over from the Coronavirus discussion....

Tech, can you provide some data to back up the assertion that Biden is declining fast? I haven't noticed that. It is normal for an Alzheimer's case to fluctuate, so there will be times when he's doing ok and other times when he's struggling. But the overall trend downward takes years, not months. If he really is progressing that fast, it's likely he has something else, like a Parkinsons plus syndrome). That would even more concerning.
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by technovelist » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:59 pm

sophie wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:00 pm
technovelist wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:56 am
[Biden] is far enough gone and declining too fast for them to keep up the pretense much longer.
I moved this over from the Coronavirus discussion....

Tech, can you provide some data to back up the assertion that Biden is declining fast? I haven't noticed that. It is normal for an Alzheimer's case to fluctuate, so there will be times when he's doing ok and other times when he's struggling. But the overall trend downward takes years, not months. If he really is progressing that fast, it's likely he has something else, like a Parkinsons plus syndrome). That would even more concerning.
I'll get you some clips later today, but all you have to do is look at one of his speeches in the last couple of weeks and contrast them even with his famous "CornPop" story from a year ago (https://twitter.com/i/status/1173196985085677569). Of course that story was pretty silly but at least he could recount it in mostly intelligible English.
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by glennds » Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:50 pm

You would think a medical clearance would be a pre-requisite to being a presidential candidate. Or at the very least a binding disclosure. After all, the vast responsibility and consequences of the position are such that a medical issue ought not be withheld from the voting public. Especially one that would or could impair judgment.

I suppose someone may argue personal privacy, but I would say if personal privacy were a priority for someone, they should not enter the glass bowl of politics, at least at the national level. We all have a stake in the health of the elected president.
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by technovelist » Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:55 pm

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Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:50 pm
You would think a medical clearance would be a pre-requisite to being a presidential candidate. Or at the very least a binding disclosure. After all, the vast responsibility and consequences of the position are such that a medical issue ought not be withheld from the voting public. Especially one that would or could impair judgment.

I suppose someone may argue personal privacy, but I would say if personal privacy were a priority for someone, they should not enter the glass bowl of politics, at least at the national level. We all have a stake in the health of the elected president.
That sounds reasonable at first thought but I think it would require a constitutional amendment.
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by pp4me » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:54 pm

Haven't heard from Bill O'Reilly in a long time but this clip popped up in my Youtube recommendations.

One of the best and most alarming examples of Biden's cognitive issues that I've seen .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3pe_yVNIJQ
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by technovelist » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:36 pm

pp4me wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:54 pm
Haven't heard from Bill O'Reilly in a long time but this clip popped up in my Youtube recommendations.

One of the best and most alarming examples of Biden's cognitive issues that I've seen .....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3pe_yVNIJQ
But is he making mean tweets? That seems to be more important to some people...
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by glennds » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:30 pm

technovelist wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:55 pm
glennds wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:50 pm
You would think a medical clearance would be a pre-requisite to being a presidential candidate. Or at the very least a binding disclosure. After all, the vast responsibility and consequences of the position are such that a medical issue ought not be withheld from the voting public. Especially one that would or could impair judgment.

I suppose someone may argue personal privacy, but I would say if personal privacy were a priority for someone, they should not enter the glass bowl of politics, at least at the national level. We all have a stake in the health of the elected president.
That sounds reasonable at first thought but I think it would require a constitutional amendment.

Perhaps such an amendment will happen one day, but sadly it will probably take a case where the lack of such protection was exploited by a presidential candidate that did indeed have a medical issue or condition that they did not disclose. Imagine electing a president with a (known to them) neurological condition or terminal disease that was concealed and then became a genuine impairment.

On a different but related note, given than a constitutional amendment requires the ratification of all 50 states, in looking at the state of politics today, it's almost hard to imagine any constitutional amendment passing under any circumstances. But maybe I shouldn't be so cynical.
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by Mark Leavy » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:44 pm

glennds wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:30 pm
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Imagine electing a president with a (known to them) neurological condition or terminal disease that was concealed and then became a genuine impairment.
Kennedy, Roosevelt, Wilson, Eisenhower, Reagan...
Plus, what medications are the candidates on? Do they drink in the evening? Other drugs? Over the counter and prescription. Even something as seemingly innocuous as acetaminophen affects risk assessment and judgement.
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On a different but related note, given than a constitutional amendment requires the ratification of all 50 states, in looking at the state of politics today, it's almost hard to imagine any constitutional amendment passing under any circumstances. But maybe I shouldn't be so cynical.
requires 2/3rds. 38 states.
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Re: Biden/Harris Discussion

Post by glennds » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:26 pm

Mark Leavy wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:44 pm


requires 2/3rds. 38 states.
Correction, I looked it up.
2/3rds majority of House and Senate, ratification of 3/4ths of states, but yes 38 is the correct number (3/4ths of 50 states).
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