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Re: Carnivore Diet Experiment

Post by vnatale » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:33 pm

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In the documentary "The Magic Pill" about the keto diet there was a woman who was a vegan of the strictest kind who bought a piece of land where she intended to grow all of her own fruits and vegetables for food. So she went to a local store to buy some fertilizer and decided to look at what exactly was in the fertilizer, only to discover that one of the ingredients was "blood meal". And that's when the light went off for her. It takes dead animals to grow fruits and vegetables - it's simply nature's way on planet earth. So she went out and bought some chickens and other animals and changed her diet.
The fertilizer in my garden is strictly the leaves from trees on my property. Two friends came by the other night and they could not believe how huge my kale plants were.

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Re: Carnivore Diet Experiment

Post by pp4me » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:57 pm

vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:33 pm
pp4me wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:59 am
In the documentary "The Magic Pill" about the keto diet there was a woman who was a vegan of the strictest kind who bought a piece of land where she intended to grow all of her own fruits and vegetables for food. So she went to a local store to buy some fertilizer and decided to look at what exactly was in the fertilizer, only to discover that one of the ingredients was "blood meal". And that's when the light went off for her. It takes dead animals to grow fruits and vegetables - it's simply nature's way on planet earth. So she went out and bought some chickens and other animals and changed her diet.
The fertilizer in my garden is strictly the leaves from trees on my property. Two friends came by the other night and they could not believe how huge my kale plants were.

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I threw away about 20 bags of leaves from the oak trees in my backyard this year. My grandfather, that I grew up next to, would have considered that crazy since he got most of his fertilizer from "compost heaps" supplemented with dead fish caught from the traps in our pond (my mother always complained about the smell).

Still, when you are enjoying your kale I think you probably need to give some thanks to dead animals somewhere along the way.
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Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:59 am
In the documentary "The Magic Pill" about the keto diet there was a woman who was a vegan of the strictest kind who bought a piece of land where she intended to grow all of her own fruits and vegetables for food. So she went to a local store to buy some fertilizer and decided to look at what exactly was in the fertilizer, only to discover that one of the ingredients was "blood meal". And that's when the light went off for her. It takes dead animals to grow fruits and vegetables - it's simply nature's way on planet earth. So she went out and bought some chickens and other animals and changed her diet.
ha! Very interesting.
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Post by Smith1776 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:10 pm

dualstow wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:05 pm
pp4me wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:59 am
In the documentary "The Magic Pill" about the keto diet there was a woman who was a vegan of the strictest kind who bought a piece of land where she intended to grow all of her own fruits and vegetables for food. So she went to a local store to buy some fertilizer and decided to look at what exactly was in the fertilizer, only to discover that one of the ingredients was "blood meal". And that's when the light went off for her. It takes dead animals to grow fruits and vegetables - it's simply nature's way on planet earth. So she went out and bought some chickens and other animals and changed her diet.
ha! Very interesting.
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Re: Carnivore Diet Experiment

Post by bedraggled » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:39 pm

At age 27, I ate a vegetarian diet through the winter. When I was in my 20s, I routinely ran 3 to 5 miles per day during warm weather. On a mid-March day, following my new "no meat" diet, I went out for a 2 mile jog to begin the new season. The jog was glorious. I raced around the track. In the prior decades of March warm-ups, I thought I would collapse each year due to the effects of my ingested crap during the cold weather. No breathing capacity and a lot of cramps and twinges occurred each spring start.

That particular vegetarian March day, the only thing different was the cessation of meat consumption. I ate all the chips, etc., and drank all that beer through the winter months.

I figure there's a pretty good correlation here, at least for exercise. And, yes, the ancestors/cave people did pursue a meat diet.

Any thoughts and opinions?
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Post by dualstow » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:56 pm

Did you ever have to go to the bathroom in the middle of a run?
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Post by bedraggled » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:02 pm

Bathroom visit? No! I imagine dehydration stopped that inconvenience. But I ate a stack of pancakes once before a run and felt like death-warmed-over. Do not do that.
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:35 am

During a long formation run back in the day, one of my squad said had to take a shit, so we ignored him and kept running. A bit later, he's like no really, I'm starting to shit my pants, so our NCO had us get down into a security perimeter downhill from the jogging track while he dropped one, then put him in the back of the group and rolled on. No big deal.
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Post by vnatale » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:10 am

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During a long formation run back in the day, one of my squad said had to take a shit, so we ignored him and kept running. A bit later, he's like no really, I'm starting to shit my pants, so our NCO had us get down into a security perimeter downhill from the jogging track while he dropped one, then put him in the back of the group and rolled on. No big deal.
For the men on the landing boats for Omaha Beach on D-Day they had no choice but to do it in their pants. A far less negative experience for what far too many of them experienced once they either got close to land or landed.

Last week read an entire book on that day on Omaha Beach. Horrifying what happened to so many.

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Re: Carnivore Diet Experiment

Post by Kriegsspiel » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:18 am

For sure. I'd imagine the military has more stories with poop as an important element than any other endeavor.
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Re: Carnivore Diet Experiment

Post by bedraggled » Sat Aug 01, 2020 10:26 am

We visited Normandy in 2017, just days before D-Day ceremonies. Even the anticipatory build up to the day was fascinating. Our guide rented his whole B & B to his buddies from the Netherlands Airborne. A photo of DW with the paratroopers and her wearing one of their helmets was great- and they were all taller as DW is 5'4".
Would like to return. Same guide, same situation but this virus....

BUT these stories don't get to my question re no meat eating and my galloping through a mid-March afternoon. Any correlation between Veggie-ness and a better jogging experience? Thank you.
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