Who still supports BLM after this?

[vnatale]

I hope someone creates a web site listing all companies that publicly stated their support of BLM during this mess so that I can avoid doing business with all of them going forward.

That's a tough standard to which to remain observant.

Someone asked me how I could remain a Yankees fan given that some in the Yankees organization / family support Trump.

That type of thing is not going to affect my support or non-support for my teams.

Vinny

[Smith1776]

I always feel slighted when I go to Starbucks.

I pay a premium there and I have to add my own milk and sugar.

I pay less at Tim Horton's and they do it for me. Grrrr.

[vnatale]

I always feel slighted when I go to Starbucks.

I pay a premium there and I have to add my own milk and sugar.

I pay less at Tim Horton's and they do it for me. Grrrr.

If I were a coffee drinker I'd seek out the place that only charges $1 as a loss leader.

Vinny

[Smith1776]

If I were a coffee drinker I'd seek out the place that only charges $1 as a loss leader.

Vinny

McDonald's is the bomb for cheap coffee!

I've watched the movie "Founder" a few times and I always get Mcdonald's afterwards lol.

[Tortoise]

I hope someone creates a web site listing all companies that publicly stated their support of BLM during this mess so that I can avoid doing business with all of them going forward.

That's a tough standard to which to remain observant.

Someone asked me how I could remain a Yankees fan given that some in the Yankees organization / family support Trump.

That type of thing is not going to affect my support or non-support for my teams.

That will depend on the how many companies are on the list, and what the companies are.

Also, people within an organization having a certain political position (your Yankees example) is very different from the organization itself publicly stating its support of that political position.

[Hal]

NATIONAL POLL: Will You Boycott Starbucks Since They're Printing 250,000 BLM Shirts For Employees To Wear? This question is required. *

https://trump.typeform.com/to/eadtEP?fb ... EcLsZfD5FM

I find it odd that companies promote ideologies...
We had a similar thing in Australia where a bank was promoting homosexual marriage.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... riage.html

When I go for a coffee or to get some money, I don't want to be lectured

[Lonestar]

Not to be naive, but I always wonder if these companies are openly supporting these liberal causes because they actually believe in them, fear a loss of revenue if they don't, or both? I guess it really doesn't matter to me personally because I always make a mental note and do business elsewhere.

[sweetbthescrivener]

This thread needs to be retitled:

Who still supports Starbucks after this?

[Libertarian666]

Not to be naive, but I always wonder if these companies are openly supporting these liberal causes because they actually believe in them, fear a loss of revenue if they don't, or both? I guess it really doesn't matter to me personally because I always make a mental note and do business elsewhere.

Loss of revenue and fear of being firebombed is my guess.

[dualstow]

Not to be naive, but I always wonder if these companies are openly supporting these liberal causes because they actually believe in them, fear a loss of revenue if they don't, or both? I guess it really doesn't matter to me personally because I always make a mental note and do business elsewhere.

I think it depends on the company. Ben & Jerry’s are all in (those idiots). Howard Schultz, former CEO of Starbucks, obviously.
Nike, you know. But, I’m sure some other huge companies are playing it safe. I would, if I thought it would keep my windows from being smashed.

[Mark Leavy]

I think it depends on the company. Ben & Jerry’s are all in (those idiots).

I stopped by the Ben and Jerry's factory in Waterbury, VT this afternoon. They had the mandatory paean to BLM, but mostly they were pushing prison reform. And while I'm onboard with prison reform, (I assume that means straight to execution instead of lockup?) I don't know what that has to do with coconut and chocolate ice cream.

At least with Ben and Jerry's, social causes have been their brand from day one - so I admire their consistency. Too bad they're wrong so often

[Xan]

I think it depends on the company. Ben & Jerry’s are all in (those idiots).

I stopped by the Ben and Jerry's factory in Waterbury, VT this afternoon. They had the mandatory paean to BLM, but mostly they were pushing prison reform. And while I'm onboard with prison reform, (I assume that means straight to execution instead of lockup?) I don't know what that has to do with coconut and chocolate ice cream.

At least with Ben and Jerry's, social causes have been their brand from day one - so I admire their consistency. Too bad they're wrong so often

I visited their factory (I believe it's actually a creamery) a few years back. Their cause du jour at that time (mostly via posters in the lobby) was that corporations have too much influence, and shouldn't be allowed to have political opinions.

Actually that's something I /maybe/ could get behind, depending who's enforcing the "shouldn't". But two things come to mind:
a) I really doubt they hold that opinion anymore, now that all the big corporations are on board with left-wing-everything, and
b) this might be the best example of irony I've ever seen

[vnatale]

Not to be naive, but I always wonder if these companies are openly supporting these liberal causes because they actually believe in them, fear a loss of revenue if they don't, or both? I guess it really doesn't matter to me personally because I always make a mental note and do business elsewhere.

I always say that "money makes the world go round" therefore I'd say corporations are always going to take actions which maximize their profits.

And, how does anyone explain the "liberal" media when they are all owned by conservative, profit making corporations?

Vinny

[Lonestar]

Not to be naive, but I always wonder if these companies are openly supporting these liberal causes because they actually believe in them, fear a loss of revenue if they don't, or both? I guess it really doesn't matter to me personally because I always make a mental note and do business elsewhere.

I always say that "money makes the world go round" therefore I'd say corporations are always going to take actions which maximize their profits.

Vinny

Yes, but corporations are pandering to the crowd that hate capitalism and big business, the exact group that hates them. They would love to lynch the same over-paid, large company CEO that can't wait to fold to their demands. I would also bet this herd of protesters account for only small part of the corporate revenue.

[dualstow]

I stopped by the Ben and Jerry's factory in Waterbury, VT this afternoon. They had the mandatory paean to BLM, but mostly they were pushing prison reform. And while I'm onboard with prison reform, (I assume that means straight to execution instead of lockup?) I don't know what that has to do with coconut and chocolate ice cream.

At least with Ben and Jerry's, social causes have been their brand from day one - so I admire their consistency.

Chunky, and yet creamy.

Too bad they're wrong so often

[pp4me]

Not to be naive, but I always wonder if these companies are openly supporting these liberal causes because they actually believe in them, fear a loss of revenue if they don't, or both? I guess it really doesn't matter to me personally because I always make a mental note and do business elsewhere.

I think Victor Davis Hanson, one of the only authors still worth reading at National Review, really nails this here (the whole thing is worth reading - clear your browser cache if it says you are out of free articles)

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/07/ ... ame-trump/

In the short term, they just wish that all the bad stuff would go away. In a collective fetal position, CEOs and various liberal-mainstay groups are happy to write checks to the revolutionaries, grant their demands, and voice their platitudes — on the theory that when the rough stuff really starts, they will be left alone to run the country as they think they always do. They are in a sense playing the role of the anti-czarist aristocrats who believed that the motley crew of Bolsheviks would be honored to have their money and support — and their own controlling influence.

[GT]

Not to be naive, but I always wonder if these companies are openly supporting these liberal causes because they actually believe in them, fear a loss of revenue if they don't, or both? I guess it really doesn't matter to me personally because I always make a mental note and do business elsewhere.

I think Victor Davis Hanson, one of the only authors still worth reading at National Review, really nails this here (the whole thing is worth reading - clear your browser cache if it says you are out of free articles)

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/07/ ... ame-trump/

In the short term, they just wish that all the bad stuff would go away. In a collective fetal position, CEOs and various liberal-mainstay groups are happy to write checks to the revolutionaries, grant their demands, and voice their platitudes — on the theory that when the rough stuff really starts, they will be left alone to run the country as they think they always do. They are in a sense playing the role of the anti-czarist aristocrats who believed that the motley crew of Bolsheviks would be honored to have their money and support — and their own controlling influence.

Agree - CEO's want to wait out the outlier that is Trump - virtue signaling until a Dem or RINO is in power.

[Kriegsspiel]

BLM extorting business owners in Louisville, vandalizing stores that don't pay up. Tim makes some good points, including that this is what we could probably expect from "community policing" like BLM wants. Also, that leftists in government have realized that if they decree that "racism" is a public health hazard, they can have as much power as they've claimed over us in the name of coronavirus.

[Libertarian666]

BLM extorting business owners in Louisville, vandalizing stores that don't pay up. Tim makes some good points, including that this is what we could probably expect from "community policing" like BLM wants. Also, that leftists in government have realized that if they decree that "racism" is a public health hazard, they can have as much power as they've claimed over us in the name of coronavirus.

And in Minneapolis, the criminals are officially in charge:

https://alphanewsmn.com/minneapolis-pol ... be-robbed/

I wonder how many people will decide that they'd rather arm themselves for protection regardless of the law there?

https://babylonbee.com/news/riotous-blm ... ack-people

[Kriegsspiel]

Has anyone noticed that antifa is almost exclusively made up of seemingly homeless freaks and effeminate males dressed like vaguely Tali from Mass Effect?



It's bewildering.

[Tortoise]

Antifa marches into suburban neighborhood and discovers they’re not welcome

[Libertarian666]

Antifa marches into suburban neighborhood and discovers they’re not welcome

Imagine my shock.
This needs to happen all over the country so that even the Marxist media won't be able to keep people from finding out about it.

[Mark Leavy]

I'm rethinking all of my Q3 business plans. Since companies will obviously need their own security forces going forward, it seems redundant to also hire employees. I'm going to put the old gang back together. I think my newly formed security corp would love to form raiding parties on their slow days. There are some full-stack engineers and front desk gals in Seattle and San Francisco that I could use. I just need one strong commander that can give the troops free rein to pillage and loot as long as they bring me back all of the engineers and hospitality hostesses unharmed. Kriegsspiel, pm me.

[Kriegsspiel]

Do you operate black sites? Ahh fuck it, it sounds good either way.

[Mark Leavy]

Do you operate black sites? Ahh fuck it, it sounds good either way.

Not anymore. Sold in 2015. We had about 2 dozen guys in the sandbox at any one time. Air and ground.

Funny, I just noticed that my last non-compete fell off earlier this year. I do like to compete