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Dr. Fauci today!

Post by vnatale » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:53 am

C-Span 2 will be having Dr. Fauci speaking to the Chamber of Commerce this morning at 11 AM!

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Post by vnatale » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:12 am

vnatale wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:53 am
C-Span 2 will be having Dr. Fauci speaking to the Chamber of Commerce this morning at 11 AM!

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On NOW! And, answering questions from callers!

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Post by stuper1 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:50 am

This guy says that Fauci is lying and appears to me to make some good points:

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/looks-like ... after-all/


Personally I don't know who to believe any longer. Maybe Fauci is right. Maybe he is wrong and lying, or wrong and not lying but just very cautious. Although to be so cautious on health, when there is countervailing evidence say from the cruise ship situation, and not to look at the entire situation as a whole including economic factors that also impact health, seems perhaps recklessly over-cautious.
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Post by Tortoise » Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:44 pm

stuper1 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:50 am
Personally I don't know who to believe any longer. Maybe Fauci is right. Maybe he is wrong and lying, or wrong and not lying but just very cautious. Although to be so cautious on health, when there is countervailing evidence say from the cruise ship situation, and not to look at the entire situation as a whole including economic factors that also impact health, seems perhaps recklessly over-cautious.
Agreed.

Best-case: Fauci has some severe blind spots and isn't considering the big picture.
Worst-case: Fauci has an agenda and is twisting the truth to advance it.
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Post by sophie » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:50 pm

No one is willing to step outside of their mindset and look at the big picture. It's heartening to know that herd immunity requires only 20%. In NYC we hit that number a LONG time ago, which likely means the ongoing lockdowns, mask-wearing etc are all pointless. The case rate per capital has been miniscule for months. We're in far more danger from car accidents and crime.

What other states are going through is what we went through back in March, just less severe since nursing homes are better protected and population density is lower. They'll get through it....my guess is another week or two at most before they hit peak, if they haven't peaked already.

Here's a very interesting book by Thomas Sowell that examines the mindset at work here. Definitely recommended! But, get it quick before it's banned. The Kindle version is already off limits because the book is "under review". I'm sure it is. Which should tell you just how important it is that you all read this.

https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Anointed- ... 8&qid=&sr=
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Post by Tortoise » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:05 pm

So Amazon has decided to jump on the censorship bandwagon too, huh?

I wonder why the "Item Under Review" notification only shows up for the Kindle version and not the hardback or paperback versions. They all have the same content, don't they?
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Post by pugchief » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:12 pm

sophie wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:50 pm
No one is willing to step outside of their mindset and look at the big picture. It's heartening to know that herd immunity requires only 20%. In NYC we hit that number a LONG time ago, which likely means the ongoing lockdowns, mask-wearing etc are all pointless. The case rate per capital has been miniscule for months. We're in far more danger from car accidents and crime.

What other states are going through is what we went through back in March, just less severe since nursing homes are better protected and population density is lower. They'll get through it....my guess is another week or two at most before they hit peak, if they haven't peaked already.

Here's a very interesting book by Thomas Sowell that examines the mindset at work here. Definitely recommended! But, get it quick before it's banned. The Kindle version is already off limits because the book is "under review". I'm sure it is. Which should tell you just how important it is that you all read this.

https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Anointed- ... 8&qid=&sr=
Could you do a one paragraph tl;dr of the book?
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Post by pp4me » Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:36 pm

pugchief wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:12 pm
sophie wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:50 pm
No one is willing to step outside of their mindset and look at the big picture. It's heartening to know that herd immunity requires only 20%. In NYC we hit that number a LONG time ago, which likely means the ongoing lockdowns, mask-wearing etc are all pointless. The case rate per capital has been miniscule for months. We're in far more danger from car accidents and crime.

What other states are going through is what we went through back in March, just less severe since nursing homes are better protected and population density is lower. They'll get through it....my guess is another week or two at most before they hit peak, if they haven't peaked already.

Here's a very interesting book by Thomas Sowell that examines the mindset at work here. Definitely recommended! But, get it quick before it's banned. The Kindle version is already off limits because the book is "under review". I'm sure it is. Which should tell you just how important it is that you all read this.

https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Anointed- ... 8&qid=&sr=
Could you do a one paragraph tl;dr of the book?
I second Sophie's recommendation. Also anything else written by Thomas Sowell. I doubt that his books will be banned if for no other reason than he is black so he matters. On the other hand he's strongly anti-Marxist so you never know.

I'm sure you can get the tl:dr from the reviews. I'd give it to you myself but I read it a long time ago.

My favorite Thomas Sowell quote:

"The first lesson of economics is scarcity: there is never enough of anything to fully satisfy all those who want it. The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics."
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Post by vnatale » Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:01 pm

sophie wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:50 pm
No one is willing to step outside of their mindset and look at the big picture. It's heartening to know that herd immunity requires only 20%. In NYC we hit that number a LONG time ago, which likely means the ongoing lockdowns, mask-wearing etc are all pointless. The case rate per capital has been miniscule for months. We're in far more danger from car accidents and crime.

What other states are going through is what we went through back in March, just less severe since nursing homes are better protected and population density is lower. They'll get through it....my guess is another week or two at most before they hit peak, if they haven't peaked already.

Here's a very interesting book by Thomas Sowell that examines the mindset at work here. Definitely recommended! But, get it quick before it's banned. The Kindle version is already off limits because the book is "under review". I'm sure it is. Which should tell you just how important it is that you all read this.

https://www.amazon.com/Vision-Anointed- ... 8&qid=&sr=
What explains the pricing on the used versions of the book?

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Post by dualstow » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:34 pm

I saw one of these while out walking today.
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:03 pm

sophie wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:50 pm
the ongoing lockdowns, mask-wearing etc are all pointless. The case rate per capital has been miniscule for months. We're in far more danger from car accidents and crime.
My confirmation bias right now:

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Post by pp4me » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:37 pm

I don't know if it was the same thing but I saw some clips of Fauci being interviewed by Mark Zuckerburg.

A question I would pose to Fauci is did the science of wearing face masks actually change between the time when he was saying they should not be worn and when he now says it is imperative? I think his answer is no but it was necessary to say they should not be worn in the beginning due to potential shortages. So then my follow up question would be don't you think we are justified in being skeptical when you use the word "science"?
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