I don't accept any of your premises.stuper1 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:26 amThe Nazis killed the Jews due to racism. The cops are killing blacks due to racism. Todays cops are essentially Nazis. Don't we have the same duty to protect blacks from cops as we would to protect Jews from Nazis?vnatale wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:41 pmI think I need some elucidation from you regarding what you wrote above.stuper1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:28 pmTo bring this up to our time where the U.S.A. is grappling with systemic racism just like Nazi Germany did, how about this hypothetical: It's the middle of the night and a large, black man is beating on your front door, begging you to let him in because the cops have mistaken him for a cop-killer and will likely kill him when they catch up in a few minutes.vnatale wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:46 amYou are correct. Two questions. I was asking the idealistic version. Not the practical version.Xan wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:37 amI think you're really asking two different questions here, though. One is "what is the RIGHT thing to do in this situation" and the other is "what would YOU do". I think we all agree that the right thing to do is to not turn the person over to the Nazis. But, when the rubber meets the road, would you actually risk losing everything for the sake of this person? Would you risk everything that you have, including your life? Would you risk condemning your own family to torture and death? Then it isn't so easy.
Vinny
Do you open your door, let him in, hide him, and lie to the police when they show up? If not, aren't you part of the systemic racism problem just like that SS officer back in 1940?
Vinny
And, the point of my example had nothing to do with racism. It had to do with do you follow the law to the letter or do you obey a "higher" law.
Vinny
Vinny