Autonomous Enclave in Georgia, USA

[dualstow]

As far as I know, New Hampshire still has a state government.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

So would Georgia in the OP, at least in the beginning. According to the proposal, it would have to begin with likeminded people moving there.

[Libertarian666]

Slab City, April 2013

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I would prefer that to CHAZ if those were my only options, but it doesn't look very inviting.
I was thinking more along the lines of the North American Confederacy novels of L. Neil Smith, or the Lunar society in The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress.

There was a fascinating time period in US/Mexican history where Texas wasn't sure if it wanted be part of the federation and the Yucatan wasn't that into Mexico. They almost joined and became an independent nation.

That would have been a tough nation to conquer. Texans and Mayans are damn independent and willing to run into the fray. Plus, can you say "Best barbacoa on the planet?"

Sounds right to me.
BTW, I've heard that Texas reserved the right to secede in their agreement to join the US, but I think that's an urban legend.

[Libertarian666]

As far as I know, New Hampshire still has a state government.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

So would Georgia in the OP, at least in the beginning. According to the proposal, it would have to begin with likeminded people moving there.

I'm all in favor of that experiment. Maybe it would be great!

[Xan]

Slab City, April 2013

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2013-04-09 16.09.54.jpeg

I would prefer that to CHAZ if those were my only options, but it doesn't look very inviting.
I was thinking more along the lines of the North American Confederacy novels of L. Neil Smith, or the Lunar society in The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress.

There was a fascinating time period in US/Mexican history where Texas wasn't sure if it wanted be part of the federation and the Yucatan wasn't that into Mexico. They almost joined and became an independent nation.

That would have been a tough nation to conquer. Texans and Mayans are damn independent and willing to run into the fray. Plus, can you say "Best barbacoa on the planet?"

Sounds right to me.
BTW, I've heard that Texas reserved the right to secede in their agreement to join the US, but I think that's an urban legend.

I think you're right on that, tech. Secession was considered to be a right of every state so there was no need for special dispensation. Turns out it would have been a good idea to get one anyway.

I do believe that Texas has the option to split itself into up to 5 states. That would be an interesting maneuver in terms of Senate representation.

[I Shrugged]

Great photos, Mark!

[I Shrugged]

At some point it comes down to things that HB wrote in How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World.

You choose to live free. Too many people today, especially I think on the left, choose to be kept persons, as in the term a kept woman.

[stuper1]

Is it racist to think that white people are more racist than other races?

[WiseOne]

If they want to do it, I have no objection.
I suspect it would be extremely poor and crime-ridden but maybe not; in any event, the experiment would be enlightening.

We have those already here in NYC:

The South Bronx
Bedford-Stuyvesant
East Harlem

They are indeed poor and crime-ridden, and filled with residents who are very aggressive about demanding (and getting) handouts from the city.

Except for the fact that I'm paying for those handouts, I'm perfectly happy for those residents to live as they please, free of law enforcement inside the boundaries of their little enclave if that's what they want. The problem of course is that criminals are usually prone to travel a bit. A well-patrolled zone around it or a good solid wall would be needed.

[Libertarian666]

If they want to do it, I have no objection.
I suspect it would be extremely poor and crime-ridden but maybe not; in any event, the experiment would be enlightening.

We have those already here in NYC:

The South Bronx
Bedford-Stuyvesant
East Harlem

They are indeed poor and crime-ridden, and filled with residents who are very aggressive about demanding (and getting) handouts from the city.

Except for the fact that I'm paying for those handouts, I'm perfectly happy for those residents to live as they please, free of law enforcement inside the boundaries of their little enclave if that's what they want. The problem of course is that criminals are usually prone to travel a bit. A well-patrolled zone around it or a good solid wall would be needed.

Yes. Like the border around CHAZ.

[vnatale]

We have those already here in NYC:

The South Bronx

What section of the Bronx is Yankee Stadium considered to be in?

Vinny

[bedraggled]

Vinny,

The closest listed neighborhood to Yankee Stadium is Highbridge. That is the name of the first bridge into Manhattan, built in the 1840s to bring a supply of clean water to Manhattan. The Stadium is in an area near MacCombs Dam park. There is also MacCombs Dam bridge. So, maybe the neighborhood is related to that. I think it is in the South Bronx at the boundary to the next adjoining area, West Bronx, where I lived.

[bedraggled]

The two significant streets near Yankee Stadium are W 167th Street to the north and W 149th Street to the south. West 149th Street is more a shopping/transportation hub. I think W 167th would be the South Bronx boundary and the Cross Bronx Expressway at W 170th Street would reinforce the notion. Mott Haven is the neighborhood to the immediate south of YS. That’s the next stop going downtown on the 4 train.

[bedraggled]

Wikipedia says “Concourse” as in the Grand Concourse but I don’t think so. Another Wiki entry says”Highbridge.” I am happy.

[Lonestar]

Slab City California
Terlingua Texas

Both are effectively free zones.

I've been to Terlingua. I can't say that I noticed much government but then I wasn't thinking of moving there.

Any semblance of government in Terlingua ended upon the death of Clay Henry, the Lone Star beer drinking goat that served as mayor.

[Mark Leavy]

Any semblance of government in Terlingua ended upon the death of Clay Henry, the Lone Star beer drinking goat that served as mayor.

Okay. Now I have to visit.

[vnatale]

Vinny,

The closest listed neighborhood to Yankee Stadium is Highbridge. That is the name of the first bridge into Manhattan, built in the 1840s to bring a supply of clean water to Manhattan. The Stadium is in an area near MacCombs Dam park. There is also MacCombs Dam bridge. So, maybe the neighborhood is related to that. I think it is in the South Bronx at the boundary to the next adjoining area, West Bronx, where I lived.

I believe I'd usually use that MacCombs Dam bridge as a "shortcut" to take to New York City after Saturday afternoon Yankees games?

Vinny

[I Shrugged]

Any semblance of government in Terlingua ended upon the death of Clay Henry, the Lone Star beer drinking goat that served as mayor.

Okay. Now I have to visit.

Start by hanging out on the front porch of the hotel. You can find out which eating places are open which nights. They take turns being open, and have music usually.

[I Shrugged]

Any semblance of government in Terlingua ended upon the death of Clay Henry, the Lone Star beer drinking goat that served as mayor.

That is Lajitas, the town to the west. Lajitas used to be a real town, but some rich guy bought it and turned it into a little theme park of sorts. It's not worth going to Lajitas.

[Mountaineer]

The mercury must have affected the Terlingualites. The walking dead comes to mind. Or a real oldie, Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.