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Book club on anarcho-capitalism

Post by technovelist » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:40 am

In the last month, the political climate has changed so much that it is now extremely relevant to think about what society might be like without police. As I mentioned on the other thread, I'm quite well acquainted with this topic but until now it has been very theoretical. Now it is in the news, so I think it's wise for every thinking person to get familiar with this possibility.

I'll start with a theoretical exposition of law, police, and courts in anarcho-capitalism:
Chapter 12 of For a New Liberty by Murray Rothbard.

After that, to flesh out the possibilities, we should discuss fictional depictions of what such a society might look like:
1. The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress.
2. The "North American Confederacy" series by L. Neil Smith, starting with The Probability Broach.
3. Voyage from Yesteryear by James P. Hogan.
4. Alongside Night by J. Neil Schulman.

I think that's plenty to get us started if anyone is interested.

Any takers?
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Post by Mountaineer » Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:20 am

Mad Max everywhere is my perspective. But I haven’t read the referenced books. :o
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Re: Book club on anarcho-capitalism

Post by technovelist » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:37 am

Mountaineer wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:20 am
Mad Max everywhere is my perspective. But I haven’t read the referenced books. :o
I'm sure you know this, but "Mad Max" is not very realistic; its intent was cinematic drama. The books I recommend represent considerable thought as to what might logically happen in the circumstances they portray.
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Re: Book club on anarcho-capitalism

Post by vnatale » Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:01 pm

technovelist wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:37 am
Mountaineer wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:20 am
Mad Max everywhere is my perspective. But I haven’t read the referenced books. :o
I'm sure you know this, but "Mad Max" is not very realistic; its intent was cinematic drama. The books I recommend represent considerable thought as to what might logically happen in the circumstances they portray.
Did anyone else besides me ever wonder in that movie (and similar ones) where they obtained their gasoline? Or, was that one of those suspensions of logic we accept for certain movies?

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Re: Book club on anarcho-capitalism

Post by technovelist » Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:15 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:01 pm
technovelist wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:37 am
Mountaineer wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:20 am
Mad Max everywhere is my perspective. But I haven’t read the referenced books. :o
I'm sure you know this, but "Mad Max" is not very realistic; its intent was cinematic drama. The books I recommend represent considerable thought as to what might logically happen in the circumstances they portray.
Did anyone else besides me ever wonder in that movie (and similar ones) where they obtained their gasoline? Or, was that one of those suspensions of logic we accept for certain movies?

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The latter.
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Re: Book club on anarcho-capitalism

Post by sophie » Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:33 pm

I read the Moon is a Harsh Mistress years ago, but never connected it with anarcho-capitalism. I'll have to give that a re-read. Thanks for the list!
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:57 pm

I've seen The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress mentioned so much I'm gonna have to read it. Starship Troopers was so good; I'm expecting great things.
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:01 pm

Related, Starship Troopers has 4 entries, vs 13 for TMIAHM, on the SF inventions page.
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Re: Book club on anarcho-capitalism

Post by Hal » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:08 pm

technovelist wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:15 pm
vnatale wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:01 pm
technovelist wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:37 am
Mountaineer wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:20 am
Mad Max everywhere is my perspective. But I haven’t read the referenced books. :o
I'm sure you know this, but "Mad Max" is not very realistic; its intent was cinematic drama. The books I recommend represent considerable thought as to what might logically happen in the circumstances they portray.
Did anyone else besides me ever wonder in that movie (and similar ones) where they obtained their gasoline? Or, was that one of those suspensions of logic we accept for certain movies?

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The latter.
First two films were more logical then it went downhill.
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Re: Book club on anarcho-capitalism

Post by technovelist » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:19 pm

sophie wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:33 pm
I read the Moon is a Harsh Mistress years ago, but never connected it with anarcho-capitalism. I'll have to give that a re-read. Thanks for the list!
I've reread it several times but not in the last couple of years, so it's time for me to do that too.
As soon as I get done with my corporate taxes. >:(
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Re: Book club on anarcho-capitalism

Post by technovelist » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:25 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:01 pm
Related, Starship Troopers has 4 entries, vs 13 for TMIAHM, on the SF inventions page.
Yeah, but almost half of the inventions credited to MIAHM are actually the same invention: AI.
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