This is incorrect. No one is being held responsible for anyone else's illegal acts.sophie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:46 amCompletely agree. and I also see the point about giving them (would-be illegal immigrants, Democrats) an inch and knowing they will take a mile. The sticking point to me is that you are effectively holding the children responsible for their parents' illegal acts, which is contrary to what most of us consider fair. In some societies, the sins of the parents affect subsequent generations, but that's never been true in the U.S.drumminj wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:10 pmI think this is the salient point -- their "suffering" (not sure a better term) is due to their parents illegal acts.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:57 pmAs for the DACA recipients, that is on their parents and those who encouraged them to come here illegally. Giving them amnesty will just make the problem worse.
Here's the problem with anything other than deportation: I would be okay with giving them permanent residency and no path to citizenship, but as soon as the Democrats get in, they will give them all citizenship. The only way to prevent that is to deport them. I'm not happy about that but it is entirely the fault of the Democrats that we are in this position in the first place.
How about this for an idea? Allow the children to remain BUT on condition that the parents are deported, which is the appropriate response to their crime (and it IS a crime). Many children, I expect, would choose to go back with their parents, which is fine. The parents could then apply for legal re-entry, getting on line and proving they are not a public charge just like anyone else.
And, how about the following simple solution for minor children: the parents are subject to deportation and will have to take the kids with them. End of story. So DACA should only apply to age 18+.
Let's do a thought experiment.
Suppose Person A kidnaps Person B from Country C and brings him into Country D illegally.
Does Person B have a right to remain in country D? No.
Would sending him back to Country C be a punishment? No. It would be a recognition of the fact that he doesn't have a right to remain in Country D.
In the present case, Person B is a DACA recipient, Person A is the parent, Country C is their country of origin, and Country D is the US.
DACA recipients are not US citizens, nor are they permanent residents.
Thus, they have no right to remain in the US.
Deporting them back to their country of citizenship is not punishment for anyone's illegal acts; it is a recognition that they don't have any right to remain here.