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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by Ad Orientem » Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:48 pm

Polls from the last seven days...

General Election: Trump vs. Biden The Hill/HarrisX Biden 43, Trump 40 Biden +3
General Election: Trump vs. Biden IPSOS Biden 56, Trump 44 Biden +12
General Election: Trump vs. Biden Economist/YouGov Biden 49, Trump 40 Biden +9
General Election: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 50, Trump 46 Biden +4
General Election: Trump vs. Biden IBD/TIPP Biden 48, Trump 41 Biden +7
General Election: Trump vs. Biden MC Biden 51, Trump 42 Biden +9


Arizon: Trump vs. Biden DFP Trump 44, Biden 47 Biden +3
California: Trump vs. Biden Berkeley IGS Biden 67, Trump 28 Biden +39
Florida: Trump vs. Biden Mason-Dixon Biden 50, Trump 46 Biden +4
Georgia: Trump vs. Biden CBS News/YouGov Trump 45, Biden 46 Biden +1
Hawaii: Trump vs. Biden HNN/Civil Beat Biden 56, Trump 29 Biden +27
Iowa: Trump vs. Biden Monmouth Trump 48, Biden 46 Trump +2
Iowa: Trump vs. Biden DBR Biden 49, Trump 43 Biden +6
Kansas: Trump vs. Biden PPP* Trump 43, Biden 50 Trump +7
Kentucky: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Trump 50, Biden 41 Trump +9
Maine: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Biden 52, Trump 37 Biden +15
Michigan: Trump vs. Biden EPIC-MRA Biden 51, Trump 40 Biden +11
Minnesota: Trump vs. Biden DBR Biden 54, Trump 36 Biden +18
Montana: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Trump 53, Biden 42 Trump +11
North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden CBS News/YouGov Biden 48, Trump 44 Biden +4
Ohio: Trump vs. Biden Ohio Media Collaborative Biden 46, Trump 42 Biden +4
South Carolina: Trump vs. Biden Quinnipiac Trump 47, Biden 42 Trump +5
Texas: Trump vs. Biden Research Co Trump 38, Biden 48 Biden +10*
Texas: Trump vs. Biden MC Trump 46, Biden 47 Biden +1
Utah: Trump vs. Biden Deseret News/Hinckley Inst.* Trump 50, Biden 31 Trump +19
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden DBR Biden 53, Trump 42 Biden +11


# = Biden
# = Trump
# = Within generally accepted margin of error

*The Research Co. poll for Texas is way out of line with all other polling that I have seen and I am inclined to dismiss it as an outlier.
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by technovelist » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:15 am

Why does anyone care about politicians' tax returns?
Because we want to know how they got rich on a politician's salary, which is very difficult if they haven't exploited their offices for personal gain.
That obviously doesn't apply to Donald Trump, who was rich before running for office.
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by sophie » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:44 am

Seriously, out of all the questions I have about Trump, his tax return is probably the one I'm least interested in. Besides it's pretty obvious why the Democrats want it: they'll search through it and try to find something along the lines of tax fraud/irregularities to nail him on. If he is re-elected I fully expect further impeachment attempts.
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by technovelist » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:47 am

sophie wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:44 am
Seriously, out of all the questions I have about Trump, his tax return is probably the one I'm least interested in. Besides it's pretty obvious why the Democrats want it: they'll search through it and try to find something along the lines of tax fraud/irregularities to nail him on. If he is re-elected I fully expect further impeachment attempts.
I can tell you with high confidence that there is nothing in his tax returns for the Democrats to seize on. He has an army of accountants and lawyers and has been CONSTANTLY UNDER AUDIT by the IRS for decades. If there were anything there, it would already have been leaked by someone who hates him.

As for the impeachment attempts, those will continue regardless of facts or evidence, so long as the Democrats retain the House.

That's one of the reasons I'm voting a straight Republican ticket this year and in 2022, and urge everyone else to do the same: to allow some sanity to return to government.
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by shekels » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:48 am

Does it Matter?

Joe Biden Listed As Criminal Suspect By Ukrainian Court...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH5qSycwdrk
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by flyingpylon » Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:36 pm

sophie wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:44 am
Seriously, out of all the questions I have about Trump, his tax return is probably the one I'm least interested in. Besides it's pretty obvious why the Democrats want it: they'll search through it and try to find something along the lines of tax fraud/irregularities to nail him on. If he is re-elected I fully expect further impeachment attempts.
They know that they don’t need to find actual fraud or irregularities, they just need a little something to create the narrative that there is fraud and irregularities. If that narrative is later proven false, there will be no consequences.
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by technovelist » Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:31 pm

flyingpylon wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 12:36 pm
sophie wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:44 am
Seriously, out of all the questions I have about Trump, his tax return is probably the one I'm least interested in. Besides it's pretty obvious why the Democrats want it: they'll search through it and try to find something along the lines of tax fraud/irregularities to nail him on. If he is re-elected I fully expect further impeachment attempts.
They know that they don’t need to find actual fraud or irregularities, they just need a little something to create the narrative that there is fraud and irregularities. If that narrative is later proven false, there will be no consequences.
Actually they don't even need that. They can just make it up out of whole cloth, as they did with the Russia hoax.
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by Mark Leavy » Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:57 pm

It seriously bogles my mind that most people don't realize :
A) Tax returns don't tell you anything about net worth.
B) Rich people don't do their own taxes. They are filed by highly reputable firms.
C) Accountants are paid to find every legal loophole they can find, questionable or not. That is what they are paid for. And expensive accountants are good at it.

Seriously, does anyone expect anything different?
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by technovelist » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:15 pm

Mark Leavy wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:57 pm
It seriously bogles my mind that most people don't realize :
A) Tax returns don't tell you anything about net worth.
B) Rich people don't do their own taxes. They are filed by highly reputable firms.
C) Accountants are paid to find every legal loophole they can find, questionable or not. That is what they are paid for. And expensive accountants are good at it.

Seriously, does anyone expect anything different?
Yes, I'm sure many people (cough, CNN, cough) expect to find that he has been cheating... by taking legal deductions for depreciation.
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by Kbg » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:12 am

I think tax returns for important national office is entirely legit and a good thing. I also think it should be extended to all House and Senate Committee members or at least the committee chairs. Even if there is nothing technically illegal, I think exposure to potential conflicts of interest is in all of our best interests. Who cares if they came to office rich beforehand, irrelevant. Just because someone is rich does not mean they aren't willing to nudge things their way.
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Re: Some 2020 General Election Polls

Post by vnatale » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:40 am

Bernie's tax returns revealed a lot to me.

Revealed that he is not all that generous on charitable deductions, which I find hypocritical given how he wants everything free for everyone.

Also, I'd not want him coming anywhere near managing my finances. Someone his age having so much mortgage interest?

There were several other items I noted from looking at his tax return but it's been several years since I looked at them so no longer top of mind.

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