Football!!!

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I understand the Bears were a powerhouse way back when.

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Can the moderators transfer the last post to a Football!!" thread?

Thanks.

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Can anyone explain why Fran Tarkenton is not in the Football Hall of Fame?

They gave his number, 10, to Eli Manning. An insult? Not sure.

Fran The Man also did one of the best SNL hosting jobs, back in the 70s. His shaving cream commercials were excellent, too.

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Can anyone explain why Fran Tarkenton is not in the Football Hall of Fame?

Nobody will be able to explain that because Fran Tarkenton IS in the Hall of Fame.

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Excellent first post.

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Yeah, lame-o post and oversight. Maybe I should switch from "bedraggled" to "Confused & Forgetful." Too long?

Anyway, then, explain why the Giants gave his number "10" to Eli Manning, please.

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I think retiring numbers is nonsense.

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If this conversation were on reddit, the topic title could have been simply "ELI 10". Get it?

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Yeah, lame-o post and oversight. Maybe I should switch from "bedraggled" to "Confused & Forgetful." Too long?

Anyway, then, explain why the Giants gave his number "10" to Eli Manning, please.

I had actually forgotten that Tarkenton played for the Giants. I've always remembered him as a Minnesota Viking.

Even though he IS in the hall of fame I agree that he's an under-rated quarterback. Kind of like Drew Brees nowadays, though Russell Wilson may be a better comparison. He was a one-man highlight reel in his day with his legendary "scrambles".

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Right. Remember back a few years, when every Steelers game the announcers would fawn over Leveon Bell's running style? "Look at how he pauses in the hole, such a unique runner!" Every time I would seethe a little, because he obviously has the time to pause because the Steelers' superb offensive line was just blowing guys out of the way, allowing minimal penetration. Or with Brady, "look at how patient he is, working his way through his progression." Not exactly difficult when you're under no pressure. The guy was nearly untouched back in the day when he had his great O-line around him.

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Referring to Pug's comment about receivers who can actually catch the ball, Dick Young, sports columnist for New York Daily news, wrote the following 30 to 40 years ago:

Regarding the complaints of Giants fans having Pepsi, etc., dumped on them by unruly fans above, Young said the dumpers are not unruly fans, but Giants receivers. The TE, WRs and FL go to the concession stand while the defense is on the field but they simply couldn't hold onto their beverages. Ergo, great quantities of the the stuff would pour down from above. Those Giants fan had their answer. [Pre- Eli Manning, Phil Simms and Lawrence Taylor]

A memory from long ago.

Currently, Phil Mushnick, New York Post sports columnist, is a fun read. He focuses on sports media and broadcasting. He may wander at times but always good to check in.

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Referring to Pug's comment about receivers who can actually catch the ball, Dick Young, sports columnist for New York Daily news, wrote the following 30 to 40 years ago:

Regarding the complaints of Giants fans having Pepsi, etc., dumped on them by unruly fans above, Young said the dumpers are not unruly fans, but Giants receivers. The TE, WRs and FL go to the concession stand while the defense is on the field but they simply couldn't hold onto their beverages. Ergo, great quantities of the the stuff would pour down from above. Those Giants fan had their answer. [Pre- Eli Manning, Phil Simms and Lawrence Taylor]

A memory from long ago.

Currently, Phil Mushnick, New York Post sports columnist, is a fun read. He focuses on sports media and broadcasting. He may wander at times but always good to check in.

Not a fan of Mushnick. Critical of everything. Nothing is good enough for him. Have not read him for a long time when I used to read him regularly. Don't miss reading him. Until you mentioned him here I'd not even thought about him.



Vinny

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Vinny,

Curious that we have opposing thoughts on Mushnick. I find him to be a breath of fresh air, especially when he blasts the Yankee announcers.

I would spend billions to buy the team merely to bring in new announcers. Although, Ken Singleton can stay forever.

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Vinny,

Curious that we have opposing thoughts on Mushnick. I find him to be a breath of fresh air, especially when he blasts the Yankee announcers.

I would spend billions to buy the team merely to bring in new announcers. Although, Ken Singleton can stay forever.

The only Yankees announcer I wish would go away would be is Michael Kay. I'm not that impressed with the new one, Ryan Ruocoo.

John and Suzy are the best pair of announcers anywhere! When I'm outside and listening to the game I have both the TV and radio broadcasts coming through my wireless headphones. I always have the broadcast at a higher volume than the TV broadcast.

Vinny

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For anyone who hasn't watched "Project 11" on ESPN, please do so and post back with your thoughts. Full disclosure: I'm an Alex Smith fanboi...started following him with the 49ers in 2011...then followed him to the Chiefs...then to the Redskins.