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Re: The cars we love/hate & the cars we may buy.

Post by bedraggled » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:01 pm

Re the paint job:

The car is like an adopted child, at this point. Any paint job and body work would fit nicely into a declining level of average annual maintenance expenditures.

Funny thing, the mechanic said my steel car would withstand a collision better than a current car. The chiropractor, while checking for aches and pains, and who knows cars, too, suggested the rear bumper performed as designed.

Guess I'll let you know within the week.

Thanks.
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Post by Mark Leavy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:28 pm

bedraggled wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:53 am
If I were to buy a Camry tomorrow, I would skip the unnecessary paint job. I would like to keep it 4 more years.

To watch it fade is unpleasant. And those non-fading glass headlights!

There are two rust pockets behind the rear wheel wells that are still yet to break through to the surface.
The two areas are still solid and ignore the rap of my knuckles. I'm confused by this three year old condition. Body shop said they could cut it out and replace with new metal before the repaint but that will cost more.

Decisions, decisions. Just wanna get through 4 more years. The replacement car should be truly edgy.

BTW, maintaining an old car lessens environmental impact and reduces carbon footprint.
You have a really pleasing perspective on life, bedraggled.
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Post by technovelist » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:52 pm

We almost had to get rid of our 2001 Maxima.

It started stalling at idle and then racing other times.

I took it to my mechanic and he used his diagnostic computer to find out what the problem was.

He called me and said "I have bad news. You need a new Idle Air Control Valve. That's about $500 for the part, but the bad news is that it seems very likely that the engine computer has been damaged as a result of the failure of that part. If you need a new engine controller, that's going to be another big bill for the part and you'll have to get the car to the dealer to reprogram it (the dealer is 50 miles away)."

Altogether it looked like $1500 or so for a car that isn't worth $1000.

So I resigned myself to selling it for a couple of hundred dollars to my mechanic's helper who would fix it on his own dime and then try to resell it.

But my wife didn't want to let it go, so I said "Fine, do the research and if there is another option we'll see if it makes sense."

She found a company that reprograms the computer so you don't have to buy a new one and don't have to drive (or tow) it to the dealer. That would cut the maximum expense down to about $700. She also found the Idle Air Control Valve on Amazon for $130.

So I said okay, let's try changing that and hope that the engine computer is okay.

We got lucky. $300 later, the car is working again!
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Post by bedraggled » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:05 pm

And that retained cash can be pretty handy. I can always get another new/newish car that requires collision coverage. I would like to get a new Tesla in 4 years. In the interim, I hope to have that solid 25% that Harry talked about. It won't be deep cash, though.

BTW, i believe that Harry Browne fans are in control of their money, as I feel about my current situation.

Thanks, folks. I'll decide soon.
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Post by Mark Leavy » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:08 pm

technovelist wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:52 pm
...
But my wife didn't want to let it go ...
That's a great story. You really complement each other.
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Post by technovelist » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:42 pm

Mark Leavy wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:08 pm
technovelist wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:52 pm
...
But my wife didn't want to let it go ...
That's a great story. You really complement each other.
Thanks. She appreciated the compliment!
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Post by vnatale » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:06 pm

technovelist wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:52 pm
We almost had to get rid of our 2001 Maxima.

It started stalling at idle and then racing other times.

I took it to my mechanic and he used his diagnostic computer to find out what the problem was.

He called me and said "I have bad news. You need a new Idle Air Control Valve. That's about $500 for the part, but the bad news is that it seems very likely that the engine computer has been damaged as a result of the failure of that part. If you need a new engine controller, that's going to be another big bill for the part and you'll have to get the car to the dealer to reprogram it (the dealer is 50 miles away)."

Altogether it looked like $1500 or so for a car that isn't worth $1000.

So I resigned myself to selling it for a couple of hundred dollars to my mechanic's helper who would fix it on his own dime and then try to resell it.

But my wife didn't want to let it go, so I said "Fine, do the research and if there is another option we'll see if it makes sense."

She found a company that reprograms the computer so you don't have to buy a new one and don't have to drive (or tow) it to the dealer. That would cut the maximum expense down to about $700. She also found the Idle Air Control Valve on Amazon for $130.

So I said okay, let's try changing that and hope that the engine computer is okay.

We got lucky. $300 later, the car is working again!
Can't tell you enough how stories like this warm my "super frugal, repair the car" heart!

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Post by bedraggled » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:14 am

Looks like I will get the repaint on the 30 year old Accord.

Question: Is it worth spending an extra $500 to get rust cut out in two areas immediately beyond the rear wheel wells? The cost might be less. The car will look nice after the paint job. If I also get the rust cut out, the car will be welcomed at car shows. I'll have that" antique" license plate, too.

DW understands the value of this old car and I think, maybe, the car should look as good as possible for her. I'm on the fence re this significant remediation as I'll get a Tesla in 4 years.

Thoughts, please.
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Post by Mark Leavy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:20 am

bedraggled wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:14 am

DW understands the value of this old car and I think, maybe, the car should look as good as possible for her.
There's your answer right there.
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Post by technovelist » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:34 am

bedraggled wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:14 am
Looks like I will get the repaint on the 30 year old Accord.

Question: Is it worth spending an extra $500 to get rust cut out in two areas immediately beyond the rear wheel wells? The cost might be less. The car will look nice after the paint job. If I also get the rust cut out, the car will be welcomed at car shows. I'll have that" antique" license plate, too.

DW understands the value of this old car and I think, maybe, the car should look as good as possible for her. I'm on the fence re this significant remediation as I'll get a Tesla in 4 years.

Thoughts, please.
I would get the rust cut out.
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Post by Xan » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:36 am

technovelist wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:34 am
bedraggled wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:14 am
Looks like I will get the repaint on the 30 year old Accord.

Question: Is it worth spending an extra $500 to get rust cut out in two areas immediately beyond the rear wheel wells? The cost might be less. The car will look nice after the paint job. If I also get the rust cut out, the car will be welcomed at car shows. I'll have that" antique" license plate, too.

DW understands the value of this old car and I think, maybe, the car should look as good as possible for her. I'm on the fence re this significant remediation as I'll get a Tesla in 4 years.

Thoughts, please.
I would get the rust cut out.
Me too. $500 is what fraction of the payment on a new car? Delay your Tesla purchase by two weeks and there you go. It's worth that to have your car really be taken care of, isn't it?
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Post by vnatale » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:37 am

bedraggled wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:14 am
Looks like I will get the repaint on the 30 year old Accord.

Question: Is it worth spending an extra $500 to get rust cut out in two areas immediately beyond the rear wheel wells? The cost might be less. The car will look nice after the paint job. If I also get the rust cut out, the car will be welcomed at car shows. I'll have that" antique" license plate, too.

DW understands the value of this old car and I think, maybe, the car should look as good as possible for her. I'm on the fence re this significant remediation as I'll get a Tesla in 4 years.

Thoughts, please.
Are you in a state with inspections? In Massachusetts I had no choice. I had to take rust action so as to pass inspection. Absent that I would not have taken care of it.

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