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The cars we love/hate & the cars we may buy.

Post by bedraggled » Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:46 pm

The Florida mechanic is ok with synthetic oil. He prefers 5,000 mile changes rather than the suggested 7,500, especially in Florida hot weather. I do like the fancy oil filters, though.
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Post by Hal » Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:41 pm

I have always used Turbo Diesel Truck (prime mover) oil in every vehicle owned. Petrol or diesel.
Have done over 1 1/2 million K in total and every Toyota engine was fine.

1st Car - 1976 Falcon wagon - swear it was dipped in salt water before coming of assembly line. 2 engines in it both lasted only 200,000K

2nd to 4th Car - 4 door Toyota Hilux's. 2nd got run into. 3rd gearbox died (note to self - never buy a noisy diesel again). 4th still going.

For example: https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for ... uck-5w-40/

Love to hate - 4.1 litre 6 cylinder 1976 (rust on wheels) Falcon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SDnJAYeN6c
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Post by bedraggled » Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:03 pm

Florida seems to keep a few rust bubbles from popping open. I tap them and they seem happy not breaking open. 400,000 miles is the goal.

Regarding Vinny's MPG complaint: I agree MPG is declining. I had a 1984 Civic 4 speed with a 1.3 liter engine. I once got 60 MPG, sometimes got 58 and often got 55. Granted it was an econo-box but the technology exists. Today's MPG is inadequate. YMMV.
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Post by Mountaineer » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:42 am

My experience in vehicles I've owned - all purchased new.

Worst*: 1979 Chevy Citation [6,400] - chronic brake issues, bottoms of doors were not painted when I bought it new, etc., etc. etc.
Second worst: 1970 Volkswagen Bus [3600] - blew a hole in one of the cylinder heads at 23,500 miles, just before the warranty expired. Should have known better - way underpowered engine with air conditioning that had to be driven flat out anytime on the Texas interstates, hot climate, air cooled engine not a good match.

Best*: 1995 Volvo 850 Turbo Sedan [34,000], 2012 Volvo XC60 Turbo SUV [38,000], 2018 Audi Q5 [52,000] (way too early to know but so far is excellent).

Most fun to drive: 1979 Mazda RX7 [9,600], 2018 Audi Q5.

Most boring to drive: 1979 Chevy Citation, 1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme [4000].

Most practical: 1986 Toyota 4Runner [17,000]
Second most practical: 1966 Volkswagen Beetle [2,000]

* Best and worst based on durability, reliability, comfort, quality, performance (brakes, acceleration, cornering)

I have used full synthetic oil in all vehicles since 1983. First Mobil 1, then Castrol Edge Professional in the past several years. I have driven probably well over 1 million miles in a great variety of vehicles (210,000 on the '95 Volvo was the most, 24,000 on the VW bus was the least). First car that was practically mine, 1953 Buick straight 8, 3 on the column, that was given to me to drive after my grandfather had a stroke. Had front knee-action shock absorbers that I had to top up with oil every 100 miles or so. Had a steering column shaft break when driving into high school - luckily, I was turning into the parking lot when the steel fractured - 5 minutes before I had been driving 50 - 60 mph on a twisty two lane road. ;D Vehicles have greatly improved since then.

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Post by Hal » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:13 am

Here is some outstanding 1920's engineering ->E-20 steam car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUg_ukBwsyo
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Post by Ad Orientem » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:37 pm

The golden age of American cars...

https://youtu.be/tEme7EV0YPQ
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:07 am

Ad Orientem wrote:
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The golden age of American cars...

https://youtu.be/tEme7EV0YPQ
Fantastic.
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Post by bedraggled » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:24 am

Since the thread was drifting....

Mark,
What repairs did the $5,000 cover?

I'll post my repair experiences in the next post.

Thanks
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Post by bedraggled » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:56 am

Vinny,

You must be more patient with the Honda Accords in your life. Our 1991 5-speed manual turns 30 years of age in September.

Whereas it should have been gone in 2008, the new mechanic asked if I wanted to rebuild as he knew I had just done a significant repair the previous year. Nine years later with $21,500 spent- that's $2389/year) it ran well. The last 3 years I've spent $1275, $475 and $300. The annual repair cost is going down. It's all Honda EOM, except for front axles. The Florida mechanic said no road 'crud' means front axles last longer.

The car has 357,600 on it. I've mentioned that a few years before. Actually replaced the exhaust manifold a couple of years ago.

The speedometer needle sticks at 0 MPH occasionally and that lasts a minute or so and then springs into action.

This car was built to accommodate 15 or 14 inch diameter wheel rims. The manufacturer installed 14 inch, maybe to save money. The gauges, including the odometers have to be set for 15 inch wheels. (This seems common sense or am I wrong?). Ergo, the 14 inch wheels have turned more oner 30 years. So, our 357,600 miles odometer reading may be too high. Now, would the mileage be too high by 1/15 or 1/14? The odometer may be 20,000 too high. What do you think?

The mechanic says the transmission is getting weary and the cylinder compression is down 10%- noted in 2017.

The next car may be a new Tesla in 4 years. This Accord is simple and replacement keys cost $2 at Home Depot.
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Post by Tyler » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:09 am

I love my VW GTI. It's super fun to drive yet remarkably practical at the same time. It's sorta crazy how much cargo capacity they crammed into a small, fast, & nimble car.
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Post by vnatale » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:53 am

bedraggled wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:56 am
Vinny,

You must be more patient with the Honda Accords in your life. Our 1991 5-speed manual turns 30 years of age in September.

Whereas it should have been gone in 2008, the new mechanic asked if I wanted to rebuild as he knew I had just done a significant repair the previous year. Nine years later with $21,500 spent- that's $2389/year) it ran well. The last 3 years I've spent $1275, $475 and $300. The annual repair cost is going down. It's all Honda EOM, except for front axles. The Florida mechanic said no road 'crud' means front axles last longer.

The car has 357,600 on it. I've mentioned that a few years before. Actually replaced the exhaust manifold a couple of years ago.

The speedometer needle sticks at 0 MPH occasionally and that lasts a minute or so and then springs into action.

This car was built to accommodate 15 or 14 inch diameter wheel rims. The manufacturer installed 14 inch, maybe to save money. The gauges, including the odometers have to be set for 15 inch wheels. (This seems common sense or am I wrong?). Ergo, the 14 inch wheels have turned more oner 30 years. So, our 357,600 miles odometer reading may be too high. Now, would the mileage be too high by 1/15 or 1/14? The odometer may be 20,000 too high. What do you think?

The mechanic says the transmission is getting weary and the cylinder compression is down 10%- noted in 2017.

The next car may be a new Tesla in 4 years. This Accord is simple and replacement keys cost $2 at Home Depot.
You are in Florida. I am in New England. Used southern cars are prize purchases in New England. The snow and the ice put on the road promotes tons of rust in cars.

This is the first of my four Honda Accords that I've not had to spend tons of money for rust remediation, particularly in the rear wheel well areas.

As I said the 1984 had 248,000 miles on it with the engine still fine as I was driving it to the junkyard but the car was absolutely falling apart due to all the rust EVERYWHERE.

Given what I pay for my cars when I purchase them, I'm quite content with spending $1,000 a years on repairs. Then it got up to $2,000 a year in the last two years I owned my second one. That told me its time had come to an end.

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Post by Mark Leavy » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:01 am

bedraggled wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:24 am
Since the thread was drifting....

Mark,
What repairs did the $5,000 cover?

I'll post my repair experiences in the next post.

Thanks
All new suspension rubber.
Engine seals and gaskets and oil pan.
motor mounts
Tires
New fluids
front right axel and a stabilizer bar
thermostat
alternator
brakes
battery.

It didn't necessarily need all that, or maybe even any of it if I were just going to be city driving, but I knew I was going to be driving the hell out of it on remote highways and I figured it was cheap insurance.

The original owner had maintained it fairly well. Just some things were older than my comfort zone allowed.

Runs like a dream now. I've put 6000 miles on it in just 3 weeks. There's a dealer where I am now, so I'll take it in for a tune-up and tire rotation on Monday.
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