Would you wear a mask?

[Tortoise]

If the virus generally isn’t transmitted via surfaces, that would seem to imply that the amount of virus in saliva droplets from a person’s mouth is negligible. But that would invalidate the main premise of wearing masks to prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2.

What a confusing world we currently live in. <shrug>

[dualstow]

If the virus generally isn’t transmitted via surfaces, that would seem to imply that the amount of virus in saliva droplets from a person’s mouth is negligible.
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why?

[vnatale]

If the virus generally isn’t transmitted via surfaces, that would seem to imply that the amount of virus in saliva droplets from a person’s mouth is negligible. But that would invalidate the main premise of wearing masks to prevent the spread of SARS-CoV-2.

What a confusing world we currently live in. <shrug>

Is that what it is implying?

The doctor also stated that the main determinants are the amount of dosage you are exposed to and for how long.

Therefore there is going to be negligible exposure from a surface. But if you have it and you are speaking loudly to me, constantly spewing droplets out of your mouth, the closer I am to you and the longer I am near you is going to be my ultimate cumulative exposure.

Vinny

[Tortoise]

If the virus generally isn’t transmitted via surfaces, that would seem to imply that the amount of virus in saliva droplets from a person’s mouth is negligible.
...

why?

Because if saliva droplets contained a significant amount of the virus, then presumably they could land on doorknobs and other objects that many people touch, and end up in someone’s mouth, nose, or eyes, right?

Yet the doctor that Vinnie talked to said that there are no documented cases of SARS-CoV-2 transmission via surfaces.

[vnatale]

If the virus generally isn’t transmitted via surfaces, that would seem to imply that the amount of virus in saliva droplets from a person’s mouth is negligible.
...

why?

Because if saliva droplets contained a significant amount of the virus, then presumably they could land on doorknobs and other objects that many people touch, and end up in someone’s mouth, nose, or eyes, right?

Yet the doctor that Vinnie talked to said that there are no documented cases of SARS-CoV-2 transmission via surfaces.

Aren't we looking at odds?

What are the odds of significant amount of virus landing on a surface? Then surviving? Then someone picking up an appreciable amount of virus from the surface?

Compare that to my scenario where I am 3 feet away from you, you are speaking loudly, spewing droplets all over the place, and I'm in your presence for 15 minutes. Seems like those odds are infinitesimally greater of virus being transmitted to me than via a surface?

And, I did not talk to any doctor. The doctor I was referring to was the podcast I'd (on Saturday) put in a forum post and then followed up with extensive notes from it.

Vinny

[Tortoise]

Not a bad explanation, Vinny. So transmission via surfaces may be rare because the viral load tends to be much lower than when fluids travel directly from face to face.

[vnatale]

Not a bad explanation, Vinny. So transmission via surfaces may be rare because the viral load tends to be much lower than when fluids travel directly from face to face.

That was my (accountant's) translation of putting together all I heard him say. I'd have more faith in your interpretation an an engineer than mine.

I regularly tell everyone that I'm good when it comes to what can be done while sitting in front of a computer. I'm not so good in figuring in things out that are in the physical world.

Vinny

[dualstow]

i ignored the parens at first and thought, Vinny has an accountant?

[Kriegsspiel]

I had to flip back a page, I thought this was the thread where we were talking about the parens and frens that were partying next to Corto.

[murphy_p_t]

I will wear a mask if I am forced. And then, only with objection.

I don't belong to a cult. I don't believe in superstition, nor pseudoscience.I don't want to further cult-like behavior and superstitious action, nor any other form of groupthink or virtue signaling.

I will not consent to voluntarily contributing to the orchestrated panic occurring within the country at the moment.

if I fall ill with the Wuhan cough, I will voluntarily self quarantine.

[dualstow]

I broke out the shemagh today. Weather’s not as hot as last week and it’s getting easier to breathe. i could wear the shemagh in public for the rest of my life.


#ShowerThought: are the dogs of the world getting used to masked men?

[jalanlong]

If the virus generally isn’t transmitted via surfaces, that would seem to imply that the amount of virus in saliva droplets from a person’s mouth is negligible.
...

why?

Because if saliva droplets contained a significant amount of the virus, then presumably they could land on doorknobs and other objects that many people touch, and end up in someone’s mouth, nose, or eyes, right?

Yet the doctor that Vinnie talked to said that there are no documented cases of SARS-CoV-2 transmission via surfaces.

Aren't we looking at odds?

What are the odds of significant amount of virus landing on a surface? Then surviving? Then someone picking up an appreciable amount of virus from the surface?

Compare that to my scenario where I am 3 feet away from you, you are speaking loudly, spewing droplets all over the place, and I'm in your presence for 15 minutes. Seems like those odds are infinitesimally greater of virus being transmitted to me than via a surface?

And, I did not talk to any doctor. The doctor I was referring to was the podcast I'd (on Saturday) put in a forum post and then followed up with extensive notes from it.

Vinny

So the cashier at my local gas station who hand sanitizes after touching every credit card is overdoing it?

[dualstow]

Someone is catching this virus somehow. From the majority of the forum, one would think it’s nearly impossible. And yet, the numbers continue to climb.

[Hal]

#ShowerThought: are the dogs of the world getting used to masked men?

Just the horses (showing my age )

[dualstow]

#ShowerThought: are the dogs of the world getting used to masked men?

Just the horses (showing my age )

It’s funny you posted that. My roofer did some work and took off abruptly for the next job. I was telling someone, “I didn’t even get a chance to thank that masked man”

[Mark Leavy]

It’s funny you posted that. My roofer did some work and took off abruptly for the next job. I was telling someone, “I didn’t even get a chance to thank that masked man”

I do like your humour. You're a sick man, dualstow.
Mark

[Kriegsspiel]

Someone is catching this virus somehow. From the majority of the forum, one would think it’s nearly impossible. And yet, the numbers continue to climb.

I don't know about the other thoughtcriminals, but I don't dispute that people are getting it. IMO we've figured out that this isn't the Black Death and shouldn't be so tolerant of draconian countermeasures.

[Xan]

There are people doing work up on roofs in the middle of the summer wearing masks??

[Mountaineer]

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[dualstow]

There are people doing work up on roofs in the middle of the summer wearing masks??

My guess is that he took the mask off while up top. We had our discussion on the ground.
If I were a construction worker, though, or any kind of manual laborer doing heavy work, I'd probably have to take my mask off or I'd pass out.

[vnatale]

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[dualstow]

Alien facehugger? Brilliant.

[GT]

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Nice find vnatale - the thought of a facehugger still scares me

[Tortoise]

Facehugger sounds like a Seinfeld term for someone who puts their face right in front of yours and stares directly into your eyes whenever they’re giving you a friendly hug.

[Mark Leavy]

Those little loop over the ear, over the face masks:
From day one, I've wondered how grown men can walk around in public while wearing panty liners on their faces.