Dawg Pound

[dualstow]

How many here believe that ALL dogs have descended from wolves?

Vinny

What are you talking about, Vinny? This isn't catechism.
All dogs descended from wolves.

[Mark Leavy]

Coyotes, Jackals and Wolves probably have a common ancestor. I.e. none descended from the other.
Most domestic dogs, canis familiaris, are descendent from wolves, canis lupus.

But in the Middle East, plenty of yard dogs are mostly jackal. And where I grew up in the American Southwest, many a neighborhood dog had a share of coyote in it.

[dualstow]

Honorary wolves. Same genus.

[Hal]

Honorary wolves. Same genus.

[Mark Leavy]

Farside comic...

Funny. That's what I think when I see humans.

[Smith1776]

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[Hal]

Think you would like this link Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3MdwjPyHA

Have to get that first dog toy

[Smith1776]

Think you would like this link Smith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw3MdwjPyHA

Have to get that first dog toy

That is SO cute. My plan is to get a Shiba Inu when I graduate school and get back to working full-time!

[Smith1776]

Miso on her way to Costco.

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[Hal]

Some ideas for Miso after you go shopping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ClAcPWjTOM

ps: I could just see my mother doing this. She treated the collies same as her children.

[Smith1776]

Some ideas for Miso after you go shopping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ClAcPWjTOM

ps: I could just see my mother doing this. She treated the collies same as her children.

Lol Miso is already so spoiled... this would just spoil her rotten!

She's a little too curious for her own good. I remember the first time Miso met Lily. Miso was just curious but Lily swiped and hissed at her like crazy. Almost caught a good scratch from Lily right on her snout.

[Smith1776]

Happy first birthday, Miso!!!

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[Mark Leavy]

Happy first birthday, Miso!!!

You're a nutcase Smith!
Great picture.
Mark

[Hal]

Looks very happy
What did Miso get as a present?

[WiseOne]

So adorable! What's the cake made of?

My cats get a can of Friskies for holidays and birthdays. Their all time favorite treat, the equivalent of going to kitty MacDonalds.

[Smith1776]

The cake is pretty much the gift haha. She shared it with her twin sister on the big day. The base of the cake is natural peanut butter, coconut oil, pumpkin mash, honey, unsweetened apple sauce, eggs, and of course flour. The icing is plain Greek yogurt and peanut butter blended together!

Here are some more pics of her birthday!

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[Kriegsspiel]

Those are some goddamn adorable dogs.

[Smith1776]

Those are some goddamn adorable dogs.

I seriously can't get enough of Shibas. When I see one I totally flip out and have to pet it.

[vnatale]

So adorable! What's the cake made of?

My cats get a can of Friskies for holidays and birthdays. Their all time favorite treat, the equivalent of going to kitty MacDonalds.

I'll have to let mine know about that. Between the three of them they eat four cans of Friskies a day! When I took them for the annual visit last year and I told the vet that they at that time were regularly eating six cans a day, she was shocked that they were eating that much food. And, were not overweight.

Food has to be on their plate when I go to bed and by morning one or two of them is waking me up to get more food on the now empty plate.

Vinny

[WiseOne]

Friskies isn't very nutrient dense. It's cheap on a per can basis but a lot more pricey when you calculate by daily costs.

The raw food I feed my cats is more nutrient dense. My cats are big, 14 lbs and 11 lbs, probably equivalent to your 3. Between them, they eat ~8 oz a day. When I compared this to the cost of canned foods, I was surprised to discover that raw food is generally cheaper, despite its premium price. And especially when you consider the savings on litter due to the small odorless poops. I HATE cleaning up their poop after they've had a can of Friskies...icky.

[vnatale]

Friskies isn't very nutrient dense. It's cheap on a per can basis but a lot more pricey when you calculate by daily costs.

The raw food I feed my cats is more nutrient dense. My cats are big, 14 lbs and 11 lbs, probably equivalent to your 3. Between them, they eat ~8 oz a day. When I compared this to the cost of canned foods, I was surprised to discover that raw food is generally cheaper, despite its premium price. And especially when you consider the savings on litter due to the small odorless poops. I HATE cleaning up their poop after they've had a can of Friskies...icky.

I spent a fair amount of time researching cat food. And, I think Friskies ended up like 3 stars out of 5 stars nutrition-wise.

The main thing I got out of that research is that due to cats having a normal low thirst drive feeding them dry food is asking for later kidney problems, a problem, unfortunately too many of my cats ended up with who were fed all dry food diets.

I started feeding these three cats the Friskies cans rather than the dry food that they'd been eating and they just about have stopped drinking water, getting all their water from those cans.

I buy 20# bags of kitty litter for $4 or $5 each and I go through about one a week. I'm surprised how little I find in them for how much that they eat. And, there is a lot of moisture in them from eating those cans of wet food. I detect a lot of smell from urine but not from other, which is well covered with litter.

My three cats are each in about the 10 lb range. Maybe 9 lbs to 11 lbs? I'll know for certain if I follow through with their annual visit in another month.

They are collectively eating 22 ounces a day -- about 7 1/3 ounces each - at a total cost to me of about $2. With zero food preparation or time spend acquiring the food since I know have Amazon automatically delivering 144 cans each month.

Another item my research revealed was that seafood is not for cats.

Finally, when I first sent to Friskies I bought just about every single different flavor that they had and kept an Excel worksheet of how long it took them to eat each flavor so as to determine which they preferred. Out of that I now feed them four different types.

Vinny

[Hal]

I might be hopelessly out of date, but is there a reason you don't feed your pets fresh food?
Or is it that canned food is much better in the US?

We used to feed the dogs fresh chicken/fish/rabbit or fish mixed in with vegetables.
Believe it or not, the dogs used to jump up and pick fruit off the trees in the orchard, and it was rather funny when they first tried out a lemon

As an aside, our collies coats improved dramatically when we fed them some powdered kelp which is available from farm stock suppliers.

[vnatale]

I might be hopelessly out of date, but is there a reason you don't feed your pets fresh food?
Or is it that canned food is much better in the US?

We used to feed the dogs fresh chicken/fish/rabbit or fish mixed in with vegetables.
Believe it or not, the dogs used to jump up and pick fruit off the trees in the orchard, and it was rather funny when they first tried out a lemon

As an aside, our collies coats improved dramatically when we fed them some powdered kelp which is available from farm stock suppliers.

The cats have ZERO interest in the food that I eat! As do probably most people here!

Vinny

[Mark Leavy]

The cats have ZERO interest in the food that I eat! As do probably most people here!

Vinny

Ok. I laughed. Well played.

[Kriegsspiel]

I might be hopelessly out of date, but is there a reason you don't feed your pets fresh food?
Or is it that canned food is much better in the US?

My parents always got our dogs dry dogfood, and they hated when we'd feed them other stuff or when they scrounged something wild (our second dog was a much better hunter-gatherer). They both would get diarrhea when they ate a lot of random.

We used to feed the dogs fresh chicken/fish/rabbit or fish mixed in with vegetables.
Believe it or not, the dogs used to jump up and pick fruit off the trees in the orchard, and it was rather funny when they first tried out a lemon

As an aside, our collies coats improved dramatically when we fed them some powdered kelp which is available from farm stock suppliers.

I don't think I'd be feeding a dog fresh chicken breasts, but I suspect if they ate a varied diet all the time, they wouldn't have problems with it.