Obviously I don't consider it a problem. Always looking at the financial aspect of it, a ton of money that got invested instead.
Vinny
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Obviously I don't consider it a problem. Always looking at the financial aspect of it, a ton of money that got invested instead.
I know that you know that the Statement of Faiths for some churches (I'd bet the vast majority of Baptist ones) have something to the effect of:Mountaineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:50 pm. No disrespect intended. That’s just funny!
I was impressed with Cuomo by the 1st or 2nd one I saw.WiseOne wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:41 pmDaily check-in from NYC.
Trying to ignore the news, except for watching Cuomo's daily broadcast and compiling a chart of daily new COVID cases in NYC, which I posted in the coronavirus thread. Cuomo's broadcasts are getting better every day. Either that, or I'm appreciating them more. Highly recommend you guys pull them up on youtube.
Today I did some work on a journal article in revision, got hit up for a feature in the chair's weekly newsletter (just published an article a few days ago), obsessed inappropriately about a university hiring freeze that cuts off a postdoc hire in progress I desperately needed to happen (and so did she), and participated in a remote graduate student thesis committee meeting/qualifying exam. Then got an email asking me to add info to a spreadsheet with all our names on it, titled "Redeployment". This included my postdoc and research coordinator, so I had to warn them they may get a phone call.
Just had some tequila. Going out for a walk. I'm going to enjoy the weekend as best I can. BTW etoh-wise, I HIGHLY recommend a "Pennsylvania Dutch Egg Nog" liqueur that a friend of mine found. Incredibly yummy stuff.
You might find that your current fixed ideas aren't really that accurate.vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:08 pmObviously I don't consider it a problem. Always looking at the financial aspect of it, a ton of money that got invested instead.
Vinny
I know that some denominations promote that, however, there is no Biblical basis for it (I think the Bible focuses on not getting drunk; i.e. maintain self-control). "No alcohol" is just another man-made, not God-made, rule. That is similar to the issue of the Pharisees turning the 10 Commandments (God-made) into 613 man-made rules; in my opinion so they could feel good about faith in works righteousness as a means to get to heaven vs. faith in God and His promises.vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:10 pmI know that you know that the Statement of Faiths for some churches (I'd bet the vast majority of Baptist ones) have something to the effect of:Mountaineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:50 pm. No disrespect intended. That’s just funny!
"We do not believe in the use of alcohol" (and, now updated to, "or, the use of any recreational drug")
Vinny
I heard it more or less this way:Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:06 amI know that some denominations promote that, however, there is no Biblical basis for it (I think the Bible focuses on not getting drunk; i.e. maintain self-control). "No alcohol" is just another man-made, not God-made, rule. That is similar to the issue of the Pharisees turning the 10 Commandments (God-made) into 613 man-made rules; in my opinion so they could feel good about faith in works righteousness as a means to get to heaven vs. faith in God and His promises.vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:10 pmI know that you know that the Statement of Faiths for some churches (I'd bet the vast majority of Baptist ones) have something to the effect of:Mountaineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:50 pm. No disrespect intended. That’s just funny!
"We do not believe in the use of alcohol" (and, now updated to, "or, the use of any recreational drug")
Vinny
Reminds me of an old joke: The worst thing that can happen to a Baptist is to run into a fellow pew sitter in the liquor store.
You need to further elaborate on your above sentence as currently it has no meaning to me.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:37 pmYou might find that your current fixed ideas aren't really that accurate.vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:08 pmObviously I don't consider it a problem. Always looking at the financial aspect of it, a ton of money that got invested instead.
Vinny
You are correct in all you say. However, reading that in the statement of beliefs of that church was one my five reasons why I decided to quit. One of the others is that I no longer wanted to be a part of in any way supporting an industry that has proven to be so destructive to the lives of so many individuals and their families. Even so many innocents and their families being affected by the actions of drunk driving.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:06 amI know that some denominations promote that, however, there is no Biblical basis for it (I think the Bible focuses on not getting drunk; i.e. maintain self-control). "No alcohol" is just another man-made, not God-made, rule. That is similar to the issue of the Pharisees turning the 10 Commandments (God-made) into 613 man-made rules; in my opinion so they could feel good about faith in works righteousness as a means to get to heaven vs. faith in God and His promises.vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:10 pmI know that you know that the Statement of Faiths for some churches (I'd bet the vast majority of Baptist ones) have something to the effect of:Mountaineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:50 pm. No disrespect intended. That’s just funny!
"We do not believe in the use of alcohol" (and, now updated to, "or, the use of any recreational drug")
Vinny
Reminds me of an old joke: The worst thing that can happen to a Baptist is to run into a fellow pew sitter in the liquor store.
You might find that some recreational drugs do in fact have the mind-expanding properties that they are said to have.vnatale wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:48 amYou need to further elaborate on your above sentence as currently it has no meaning to me.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:37 pmYou might find that your current fixed ideas aren't really that accurate.vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:08 pmObviously I don't consider it a problem. Always looking at the financial aspect of it, a ton of money that got invested instead.
Vinny
Vinny
Thank you for your response. If you don't mind my asking, what were the other 3 reasons? And, what if anything, would cause you to reconsider? No need to respond if those are inappropriate questions for you. I'm not at all asking to judge, just to better understand the things that turned you off of Christianity (presumed since you paraphrased some Christian Scripture quite well).vnatale wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:56 amYou are correct in all you say. However, reading that in the statement of beliefs of that church was one my five reasons why I decided to quit. One of the others is that I no longer wanted to be a part of in any way supporting an industry that has proven to be so destructive to the lives of so many individuals and their families. Even so many innocents and their families being affected by the actions of drunk driving.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:06 amI know that some denominations promote that, however, there is no Biblical basis for it (I think the Bible focuses on not getting drunk; i.e. maintain self-control). "No alcohol" is just another man-made, not God-made, rule. That is similar to the issue of the Pharisees turning the 10 Commandments (God-made) into 613 man-made rules; in my opinion so they could feel good about faith in works righteousness as a means to get to heaven vs. faith in God and His promises.vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:10 pmI know that you know that the Statement of Faiths for some churches (I'd bet the vast majority of Baptist ones) have something to the effect of:Mountaineer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:50 pm. No disrespect intended. That’s just funny!
"We do not believe in the use of alcohol" (and, now updated to, "or, the use of any recreational drug")
Vinny
Reminds me of an old joke: The worst thing that can happen to a Baptist is to run into a fellow pew sitter in the liquor store.
I know you also know that the Bible states to not do some things you can handle because it can cause the weaker to be tempted and to not handle it well.
You and everyone else may well responsibly be handling all your alcohol consumption. But you are keeping an industry alive that provides no health benefits and, as stated earlier, results in much destruction in our society.
But, in the end, I've made my decisions that fits my conscience and you and everyone else in this country is free to make those you fit into yours. I'm sure I do certain things you have chosen not to do.
Vinny
You could probably say the same about the sugar industry.
For certain! I am almost a total non-participant in that industry also. But not for that reason. Strictly for my own persona health reasons.
I'm pretty sure that isn't right. I suspect that is an example of how not to sum infinite series.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:41 amI am 90% of my way through finishing the last math assignment I will ever have to do... for the rest of my life!
By the way, infinite sequences and series suck. Like... a lot. Did you know that the sum of all positive integers from 1 to infinity is -1/12? Okay, fine, that's actually pretty interesting. Still, they suck. A lot.
It is unbelievable but true. I've been studying this section for a good while and so much of it still doesn't make sense to me.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:41 amI'm pretty sure that isn't right. I suspect that is an example of how not to sum infinite series.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:41 amI am 90% of my way through finishing the last math assignment I will ever have to do... for the rest of my life!
By the way, infinite sequences and series suck. Like... a lot. Did you know that the sum of all positive integers from 1 to infinity is -1/12? Okay, fine, that's actually pretty interesting. Still, they suck. A lot.
But of course there really isn't any such thing as an infinite series. That is just an abstraction that can be useful sometimes and wildly off-target other times.
No it isn't true. It's an excellent example of why you can't treat "infinite series" like actual things.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:53 amIt is unbelievable but true. I've been studying this section for a good while and so much of it still doesn't make sense to me.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:41 amI'm pretty sure that isn't right. I suspect that is an example of how not to sum infinite series.Smith1776 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:41 amI am 90% of my way through finishing the last math assignment I will ever have to do... for the rest of my life!
By the way, infinite sequences and series suck. Like... a lot. Did you know that the sum of all positive integers from 1 to infinity is -1/12? Okay, fine, that's actually pretty interesting. Still, they suck. A lot.
But of course there really isn't any such thing as an infinite series. That is just an abstraction that can be useful sometimes and wildly off-target other times.
https://medium.com/cantors-paradise/the ... cc23dea793
https://youtu.be/w-I6XTVZXww
The mathematician in the youtube video literally does the proof, and I still don't have my mind quite wrapped around it.
That series doesn't converge, so it has no sum.
I will just believe you did..Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:14 amI'm more into Schrödinger's cat. Should I have posted this in the Kat thread?
Outstanding Sheckels, just outstanding!shekels wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:56 amI will just believe you did..Mountaineer wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:14 amI'm more into Schrödinger's cat. Should I have posted this in the Kat thread?
The idea that the sum of all positive integers from 1 to infinity equaling -1/12 isn't just hocus pocus though. It has structure in the form of the Ramanujan Summation.Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:07 am
No it isn't true. It's an excellent example of why you can't treat "infinite series" like actual things.
Again, they are abstractions, not reality.
Here's a simpler example which is equally valid:
Assume that we have two variables a and b, and that: a = b
Multiply both sides by a to get: a2 = ab
Subtract b2 from both sides to get: a2 - b2 = ab - b2
This is the tricky part: Factor the left side (using FOIL from algebra) to get (a + b)(a - b) and factor out b from the right side to get b(a - b). If you're not sure how FOIL or factoring works, don't worry—you can check that this all works by multiplying everything out to see that it matches. The end result is that our equation has become: (a + b)(a - b) = b(a - b)
Since (a - b) appears on both sides, we can cancel it to get: a + b = b
Since a = b (that's the assumption we started with), we can substitute b in for a to get: b + b = b
Combining the two terms on the left gives us: 2b = b
Since b appears on both sides, we can divide through by b to get: 2 = 1
Oh come on Smith....Taylor series and the rabbit & turtle race analogy are both pretty cool!Smith1776 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:41 amI am 90% of my way through finishing the last math assignment I will ever have to do... for the rest of my life!
By the way, infinite sequences and series suck. Like... a lot. Did you know that the sum of all positive integers from 1 to infinity is -1/12? Okay, fine, that's actually pretty interesting. Still, they suck. A lot.