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Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:47 pm
by flyingpylon
Many people also use cheap WiFi routers and that will negatively impact the speeds you experience. For example, if you're just using your internet provider's WiFi router, there's a good chance you can do better. Many people are starting to use mesh WiFi systems that are not the absolute fastest but eliminate dead spots and deliver consistently solid connections throughout the house.

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:47 pm
by dualstow
Xan wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:27 pm
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Having a low latency requires an ISP to have lines that aren't saturated, to have good peering arrangements with many peers, and to be very good at what they do. It's hard to advertise for this because it's multi-dimensional: it isn't just a single number like the data rate.

The other issue is that they only sell the downstream data rate, which is a shame. The promise of the Internet is that everybody can be both producer and consumer. Everybody can host a server. Instead the ISPs sell downstream and give everybody a pittance of upstream data. This isn't just a theoretical problem: the quickest way to absolutely kill your downstream performance is to have your teeny upstream be saturated. In this new world of Zoom calls, upstream is really important, not only because you're sending video as well as receiving it, but because your insufficient upstream can easily be saturated and then you've got nothing.
Do you think I should look into having a server?
or just network attached storage?
I have good speed (at a high price) and I feel like I'm wasting it.

{ FYI: I'm traveling tomorrow, so if I don't respond right away, it just means....I'm traveling }

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:12 pm
by Smith1776
Xan wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:48 pm


Tor would certainly slow things down to a trickle. Just hiding everything from the ISP in some way shape or form would probably be sufficient for me.

I've also considered running a Tor exit node. It's the liability concerns which prevent me from doing so. Anybody have any insights into that?
Can't say I have personal experience running a node, and it's for exactly the reason you mentioned. I've read up plenty on it, and it seems like nothing but a really good way to get the FBI knocking down your door one day on child pornography suspicions.

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:37 am
by sophie
I have plain vanilla Verizon FIOS, which is 50 Mbps for both up and downstreaming. I've never had any reason to need more, and I have no desire to pay extra for faster speeds.

The interesting question is what's going to happen when true 5G phones are introduced. 5G will be even faster than this, so theoretically you could get a generous data plan on your phone, use it as a hotspot whenever you're home, and dispense with cable internet entirely. I wouldn't risk this while still working, but for a retired person on a limited income it could be a great option. Some wireless providers are already advertising 5G home internet at a price that slightly undercuts Verizon FIOS. More competition will surely help drive prices down.

Sadly, the 5G iPhone is delayed, so I guess experimenting with 5G will have to wait a bit longer.

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:55 am
by vnatale
sophie wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:37 am
I have plain vanilla Verizon FIOS, which is 50 Mbps for both up and downstreaming. I've never had any reason to need more, and I have no desire to pay extra for faster speeds.

The interesting question is what's going to happen when true 5G phones are introduced. 5G will be even faster than this, so theoretically you could get a generous data plan on your phone, use it as a hotspot whenever you're home, and dispense with cable internet entirely. I wouldn't risk this while still working, but for a retired person on a limited income it could be a great option. Some wireless providers are already advertising 5G home internet at a price that slightly undercuts Verizon FIOS. More competition will surely help drive prices down.

Sadly, the 5G iPhone is delayed, so I guess experimenting with 5G will have to wait a bit longer.
I'd most recently read that actual implementation is FAR away. But from what I read what you have above, it is already being advertised, which means it is available?

Vinny

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:46 am
by Xan
flyingpylon wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:47 pm
Many people also use cheap WiFi routers and that will negatively impact the speeds you experience. For example, if you're just using your internet provider's WiFi router, there's a good chance you can do better. Many people are starting to use mesh WiFi systems that are not the absolute fastest but eliminate dead spots and deliver consistently solid connections throughout the house.
I'm a wire guy, myself. WiFi is for devices and places where there's no other option. You're definitely right that WiFi performance is likely to be a bottleneck these days.

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:47 am
by Xan
dualstow wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:47 pm
Do you think I should look into having a server?
or just network attached storage?
I have good speed (at a high price) and I feel like I'm wasting it.

{ FYI: I'm traveling tomorrow, so if I don't respond right away, it just means....I'm traveling }
Renting a VPS or some other "cloud" storage solution might not be a bad idea, mostly in order to get off-site backups in case of a fire or other local disaster.

I would think long and hard before delivering all your data to some third party, though. You may want to recommend encrypt it before uploading (that is, don't trust their encryption, if they have any).

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:49 am
by Xan
sophie wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:37 am
I have plain vanilla Verizon FIOS, which is 50 Mbps for both up and downstreaming. I've never had any reason to need more, and I have no desire to pay extra for faster speeds.

The interesting question is what's going to happen when true 5G phones are introduced. 5G will be even faster than this, so theoretically you could get a generous data plan on your phone, use it as a hotspot whenever you're home, and dispense with cable internet entirely. I wouldn't risk this while still working, but for a retired person on a limited income it could be a great option. Some wireless providers are already advertising 5G home internet at a price that slightly undercuts Verizon FIOS. More competition will surely help drive prices down.

Sadly, the 5G iPhone is delayed, so I guess experimenting with 5G will have to wait a bit longer.
For performance, consistency, latency, and reliability it's hard to beat a wire. There's going to be (and is) a lot of noise on the spectrum. Maybe I'm just old fashioned. Depending on the pricing it could be a good option as you say for somebody on a fixed income who doesn't need much.

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:18 am
by Mark Leavy
I'm getting some serious Sally action in Panama City Beach this morning. I still have power, but the weather is tripping the building fire alarms every few hours. Three times this morning so far. Yeah, with buckets of water flying around in swirls everywhere, I don't think so...

Also, the winds have somehow sucked all of the water out of the toilets. They just sit there like enormous shop vacs now, gobbling up air and whooshing it down into the bowels of Hades. Anything that approaches them will never return from the underworld. Thank Neptune's minions that the shower drain is still approachable.

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:14 am
by dualstow
Stay safe, Mark!
Xan wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:47 am
Renting a VPS or some other "cloud" storage solution might not be a bad idea, mostly in order to get off-site backups in case of a fire or other local disaster.

I would think long and hard before delivering all your data to some third party, though. You may want to recommend encrypt it before uploading (that is, don't trust their encryption, if they have any).

Many thanks, Xan.

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:45 pm
by Smith1776
Hey guys. I know some of you are religious on this forum. I could use your thoughts and prayers. Going through (again) some trying times. Thanks all.

Re: Daily "Check In" Thread For Us

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:00 pm
by Mark Leavy
Dude. I'm not religious, but best wishes. You have a lot of good still to do. You make the world a better place.