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Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:14 pm**

WiseOne wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:37 pm
Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:09 pm I believe it is for hydroxychloroquine but my understanding is that they are very similar drugs. I'm not a doctor or pharmacist, so I can't say exactly what the differences might be.

As for whether the POTUS could order the FDA commissioner to approve a drug, the FDA is an (illegal) executive branch agency, so it is under POTUS' authority. So I'm pretty sure the Constitutional answer would be yes.

In any event, every potential treatment that has a reasonable safety record in other uses must be used if we are to head off disaster.
There's some confusion here...the Chinese report was for chloroquine, which is a malaria drug that is common around the world but not available in the US. The news articles here, and the French study etc, was for hydroxychloroquine, trade name Plaquenil. It's an immune-modulating/anti-inflammatory drug used for rheumatoid arthritis, and of course already FDA approved for that indication. Using it for COVID-19 would be an off-label use, which insurance companies sometimes raise a stink about but that doctors actually do all the time. And I can't imagine insurance companies balking at paying for a cheap med for COVID patients because that would be the negative press of the century.

I'm just as confused as you guys are. Those two drugs may be chemically related, but they are NOT the same.

Thanks, I guess.

Whatever it is, it had better work or we're in for a trip through hell.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:15 pm**

I have another date today with that girl I told you guys about. The one that lives down the street.

We have not been practicing social distancing.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:19 pm**

Haha! Stay safe (in the microbial sense at least).

Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:14 pm
WiseOne wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:37 pm ...

I'm just as confused as you guys are. Those two drugs may be chemically related, but they are NOT the same.
Thanks, I guess.

...

Made me laugh out loud.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:28 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:15 pm I have another date today with that girl I told you guys about. The one that lives down the street.

We have not been practicing social distancing.

The medical person for the state of Ohio coined a different two word phrase for the ever-present "social distancing". Though I heard it within the last two hours I'm forgetting it.

She was emphasizing that we could still be social in different ways (like we all are here) but at a distance.

Could have been "Practical distancing"?

VInny

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:34 pm**

This girl, through our conversations now knows that I studied business and used to work in finance. She has been wanting investment advice so I've been introducing her to the PP.

I could make another juvenile joke there... but I won't.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:40 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:34 pm This girl, through our conversations now knows that I studied business and used to work in finance. She has been wanting investment advice so I've been introducing her to the PP.

I could make another juvenile joke there... but I won't.

In a movie the whole movie would be about how all your constant (successful) attempts you were making to avoid her finding out about you being one of those fringe, wacky Permanent Portfolio people. Until just in the end....and then what happened once she found out??!!! "Oh, Smith1776! I do truly love you! And, I do want to marry you. But I could NEVER bring up our children in the Permanent Portfolio way! My family is Bogle Head and that I shall remain to my dying day!"

Vinny

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:43 pm**

vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:40 pm
In a movie the whole movie would be about how all your constant (successful) attempts you were making to avoid her finding out about you being one of those fringe, wacky Permanent Portfolio people. Until just in the end....and then what happened once she found out??!!! "Oh, Smith1776! I do truly love you! And, I do want to marry you. But I could NEVER bring up our children in the Permanent Portfolio way! My family is Bogle Head and that I shall remain to my dying day!"

Vinny

OMG. You're not even kidding, Vinny. The number of people who have given me a "look" when I show them the MapleGrams I carry in my wallet... and yes, some of those people were girls I was seeing. Between that and the Swiss Army Knife I carry 24/7, I must truly seem like a wacko.

I'd better put "Must be a Permanent Portfolio investor" in my dating profile...

At least I'm not a toilet paper hoarder in this whole fiasco.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:47 pm**

https://youtu.be/zj3ttaiSgvs

Latest James Rickards interview concerning COVID-19's impact on the economy and markets.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:48 pm**

If you all want to hear a first-hand account from U.S. COVID-19 patient #3, listen to the most recent episode of the Barbell Logic podcast (episode #289). The host of that podcast was apparently the third person in the U.S. to be officially diagnosed, and his story is pretty interesting.

He was only able to get tested for COVID-19 after multiple rounds of pleading by both him and his doctor. The handling of his situation by the medical system and CDC sounds laughably dysfunctional.

Short story: He's had a dry cough and an on-and-off fever with chills/aches for about two weeks now, and had to spend a couple of days in the hospital since a scan of his chest showed stuff in his lungs, but he's back home and slowly improving now.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:59 pm**

vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:28 pm The medical person for the state of Ohio coined a different two word phrase for the ever-present "social distancing".
...
Could have been "Practical distancing"?

Physical distancing? That's one I saw, although I don't know if it was an Ohioan.
Kind of annoying, people getting caught up with re-coining a term. We all know what social distancing means. It's fine. Just my opinion.

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:34 pm This girl, through our conversations now knows that I studied business and used to work in finance. She has been wanting investment advice so I've been introducing her to the PP.

I could make another juvenile joke there... but I won't.

Of course not. It's not like you just did make the joke or anything.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:31 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:15 pm I have another date today with that girl I told you guys about. The one that lives down the street.

We have not been practicing social distancing.

Good luck. Let's hope neither of you has the virus.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:33 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:43 pm
vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:40 pm
In a movie the whole movie would be about how all your constant (successful) attempts you were making to avoid her finding out about you being one of those fringe, wacky Permanent Portfolio people. Until just in the end....and then what happened once she found out??!!! "Oh, Smith1776! I do truly love you! And, I do want to marry you. But I could NEVER bring up our children in the Permanent Portfolio way! My family is Bogle Head and that I shall remain to my dying day!"

Vinny
OMG. You're not even kidding, Vinny. The number of people who have given me a "look" when I show them the MapleGrams I carry in my wallet... and yes, some of those people were girls I was seeing. Between that and the Swiss Army Knife I carry 24/7, I must truly seem like a wacko.

I'd better put "Must be a Permanent Portfolio investor" in my dating profile...

At least I'm not a toilet paper hoarder in this whole fiasco.

Now I think I remember her phrase. Another "P"! "Physical Distancing" That is FAR better than "Social Distancing". Far more precise and lacks the bad connotation of acting anti-social.

I've many times practiced "social distancing" in the figurative sense of the word when I'm pressed up tight against other people in the crowd at a live music show but I'm not really interacting in any way with those people around me.

Vinny

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:37 pm**

Looks like the rec centre and gym closure will be in place for a good while.

I'm heading to Walmart today or tomorrow to get some Coronavirus quarantine home workout gear.

I currently have a yoga mat and a jump rope. Legit nothing else.

If you were to spend, say, up to 100 bucks, what would you spend that money on to get the best home workout possible? Would you spend anything at all? I'm thinking of at least getting that ab wheel thing.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:44 pm**

vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:33 pm Now I think I remember her phrase. Another "P"!

I’m in your blind spot tonight.

Look up two posts from yours.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:45 pm**

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... wv-EPCiT0M

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:48 pm**

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:44 pm
vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:33 pm Now I think I remember her phrase. Another "P"!
I’m in your blind spot tonight. Look up two posts from yours.

I was relying upon the "first unread post" feature. But somehow it was "operator error" on my end which resulted in me missing yours and others.

Vinny

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:50 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:37 pm Looks like the rec centre and gym closure will be in place for a good while.

I'm heading to Walmart today or tomorrow to get some Coronavirus quarantine home workout gear.

I currently have a yoga mat and a jump rope. Legit nothing else.

If you were to spend, say, up to 100 bucks, what would you spend that money on to get the best home workout possible? Would you spend anything at all? I'm thinking of at least getting that ab wheel thing.

10 year ago at Walmart you could get 125 pounds of free weight including barbell. That would be my first choice. I'm up to 200 pounds on the deadlift so that would be inferior for my need now. But if I had nothing I'd go for those 125 pounds and just do way more reps than I currently am doing.

Vinny

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:53 pm**

dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:59 pm
vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:28 pm The medical person for the state of Ohio coined a different two word phrase for the ever-present "social distancing".
...
Could have been "Practical distancing"?
Physical distancing? That's one I saw, although I don't know if it was an Ohioan.
Kind of annoying, people getting caught up with re-coining a term. We all know what social distancing means. It's fine. Just my opinion.

I'm always for speaking / writing as precisely as possible so as to be as clear as possible.

For the same reason as "sleeping with someone" is not always the same as "having sex with someone". They can be two different actions and if you tell me the first I somewhat know what you mean but maybe not.

Physical distancing is far more precisely descriptive for what is truly going on than is social distancing.

Vinny

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:53 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:37 pm Looks like the rec centre and gym closure will be in place for a good while.

I'm heading to Walmart today or tomorrow to get some Coronavirus quarantine home workout gear.

I currently have a yoga mat and a jump rope. Legit nothing else.

If you were to spend, say, up to 100 bucks, what would you spend that money on to get the best home workout possible? Would you spend anything at all? I'm thinking of at least getting that ab wheel thing.

You can make a Tim Ferriss kettlebell for like $15 with parts from Lowe's, and then buy one of those ever-present EZ bar + thin-hole weight plates off Craigslist. Buy that Ironmind hipsquat belt I linked before and you can do a few things.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:56 pm**

Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:53 pm
You can make a Tim Ferriss kettlebell for like $15 with parts from Lowe's, and then buy one of those ever-present EZ bar + thin-hole weight plates off Craigslist. Buy that Ironmind hipsquat belt I linked before and you can do a few things.

Very nice. Will report back on what I pick up!

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:58 pm**

I have a lot of operator errors as well, V. :-)

vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:53 pm
dualstow wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:59 pm
vnatale wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:28 pm The medical person for the state of Ohio coined a different two word phrase for the ever-present "social distancing".
...
Could have been "Practical distancing"?
Physical distancing? That's one I saw, although I don't know if it was an Ohioan.
Kind of annoying, people getting caught up with re-coining a term. We all know what social distancing means. It's fine. Just my opinion.

I'm always for speaking / writing as precisely as possible so as to be as clear as possible.

For the same reason as "sleeping with someone" is not always the same as "having sex with someone". They can be two different actions and if you tell me the first I somewhat know what you mean but maybe not.

Physical distancing is far more precisely descriptive for what is truly going on than is social distancing.

I suppose, but euphemisms will always be a part of language.
I often fail to recognize sarcasm or facetious posts in writing if they’re untagged — just ask Libertarian666 or one of my sarcasm-loving friends who emails. However, sarcasm, too, will always be a part of language usage.

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:00 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:56 pm
Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:53 pm
You can make a Tim Ferriss kettlebell for like $15 with parts from Lowe's, and then buy one of those ever-present EZ bar + thin-hole weight plates off Craigslist. Buy that Ironmind hipsquat belt I linked before and you can do a few things.
Very nice. Will report back on what I pick up!

I assume that you live in a far more populated area than do I? But this is what I could find in a 2 minute search near me. And, assume you'd have more choices than this?

https://nwct.craigslist.org/spo/d/new-f ... 35017.html

Vinny

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:25 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:15 pm I have another date today with that girl I told you guys about. The one that lives down the street.

We have not been practicing social distancing.

Nice.

You mentioned music practice above -- what do you play?

Online lessons? Or on a band and rehearsal for thing?

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:33 pm**

Smith1776 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:37 pm Looks like the rec centre and gym closure will be in place for a good while.

I'm heading to Walmart today or tomorrow to get some Coronavirus quarantine home workout gear.

I currently have a yoga mat and a jump rope. Legit nothing else.

If you were to spend, say, up to 100 bucks, what would you spend that money on to get the best home workout possible? Would you spend anything at all? I'm thinking of at least getting that ab wheel thing.

Sandbags. You can do a lot with sandbags...

Posted: **Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:41 pm**

Dieter wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:25 pm

Nice.

You mentioned music practice above -- what do you play?

Online lessons? Or on a band and rehearsal for thing?

I do singing and I play piano, though I only get lessons for the singing.

I'm currently working on Empty Chairs at Empty Tables from Les Mirserables. A really fun piece!

I sing solo. Primarily interested in doing covers and performing at parties and such.

My vocal coach today just said she is willing to do lessons online via Skype if there are any takers. I decided not to opt for it, as I just don't think it'd be the same.

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