Coronavirus General Discussion

[dualstow]

Thank you for posting. I’m glad she’s hanging in there.

[yankees60]

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[I Shrugged]

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Do you have a take on the above?

[pp4me]

Just finished reading this free PDF called "COVID Charts CNN Forgot" by Tom Woods. You have to provide your email address to download it but you can unsubscribe at any time from future mailings....

https://tomwoods.lpages.co/covid-charts-cnn-forgot/

You’ve heard it again and again:

The spread of the virus is your fault.

If only you hadn't eaten in that restaurant, or hadn't allowed 11 people at your father's funeral instead of 10, or hadn't acted even slightly like a human being, the numbers would have declined.

Time to smash this as the b.s. it obviously is.

The "blame people for the virus" strategy is a way for public officials who have no idea what they're doing to transfer the blame for their catastrophic failures onto normal people.

This free eBook by New York Times bestselling author Tom Woods smashes the "numbers go up because you refuse to stay home and wear two masks" argument to smithereens.

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[Cortopassi]

Good to see Rickards is still busy. Because his prognosticating has been oh so accurate!

[pp4me]

Good to see Rickards is still busy. Because his prognosticating has been oh so accurate!

Think you might have put this in the wrong thread.

[Cortopassi]

Vinny has been posting Rickard's tweets higher up about the vaccine

[dualstow]

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Do you have a take on the above?

Vinny, I think his point is that you are constantly posting these things without any opinion or commentary, which is disingenuous.

I don't know if it's disingenuous, but its a lot of Rickards with no commentary. An embarrassment of Rickards.

[Tortoise]

I don't know if it's disingenuous, but its a lot of Rickards with no commentary. An embarrassment of Rickards.

For the Rickards, I'm stealing that joke.

[yankees60]

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Do you have a take on the above?

Vinny, I think his point is that you are constantly posting these things without any opinion or commentary, which is disingenuous.

Definition: not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

Please explain your assertion.

[yankees60]

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Do you have a take on the above?

Generally not a concern of mine. But it seems like this type of thing would be of concern to more than a few here. But maybe I've misread those people.

[WiseOne]

Just finished reading this free PDF called "COVID Charts CNN Forgot" by Tom Woods. You have to provide your email address to download it but you can unsubscribe at any time from future mailings....

https://tomwoods.lpages.co/covid-charts-cnn-forgot/

You’ve heard it again and again:

The spread of the virus is your fault.

If only you hadn't eaten in that restaurant, or hadn't allowed 11 people at your father's funeral instead of 10, or hadn't acted even slightly like a human being, the numbers would have declined.

Time to smash this as the b.s. it obviously is.

The "blame people for the virus" strategy is a way for public officials who have no idea what they're doing to transfer the blame for their catastrophic failures onto normal people.

This free eBook by New York Times bestselling author Tom Woods smashes the "numbers go up because you refuse to stay home and wear two masks" argument to smithereens.

Click the button below to get your free copy!

Ivor Cummins videos do the same thing, but you don't have to sign up for anything. He's also put out a whitepaper on the topic - you can download from his website.

Basically, smashing those arguments is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's ridiculously easy to debunk, especially with virtually all published studies in the medical literature finding no benefit for lockdowns. And very few finding any benefit from mask-wearing.

It makes me very concerned that a highly placed NIH institute director (i.e. Fauci) should be so disingenuous and ill-informed about science. And, interested to see just how the media will punish Texas and Mississippi for reopening. I'm sure they have a plan.

[Xan]

Ivor Cummins videos do the same thing, but you don't have to sign up for anything. He's also put out a whitepaper on the topic - you can download from his website.

I don't see it, WiseOne, do you have a link?

[Cortopassi]

And, interested to see just how the media will punish Texas and Mississippi for reopening. I'm sure they have a plan.

Finally, a real, somewhat controlled, not half assed measures experiment. I look forward, hopefully, to not seeing any spike in deaths or cases in Texas and seeing the gyrations made to explain it away. CNN (of which, like other news sources, I cannot watch for more than about 3 minutes at a time) had every prime time anchor lead with the death and destruction Texas is going to unleash on their citizens by doing this.

Conversely, if there is a rise, that's valuable info too.

[WiseOne]

Ivor Cummins videos do the same thing, but you don't have to sign up for anything. He's also put out a whitepaper on the topic - you can download from his website.

I don't see it, WiseOne, do you have a link?

Here it is. Buried in the blog section.

https://thefatemperor.com/science-and-d ... -stand-up/

[Xan]

Ivor Cummins videos do the same thing, but you don't have to sign up for anything. He's also put out a whitepaper on the topic - you can download from his website.

I don't see it, WiseOne, do you have a link?

Here it is. Buried in the blog section.

https://thefatemperor.com/science-and-d ... -stand-up/

Thanks! Unfortunately it doesn't address masking.

[WiseOne]

Ivor Cummins videos do the same thing, but you don't have to sign up for anything. He's also put out a whitepaper on the topic - you can download from his website.

I don't see it, WiseOne, do you have a link?

Here it is. Buried in the blog section.

https://thefatemperor.com/science-and-d ... -stand-up/

Thanks! Unfortunately it doesn't address masking.

Yes, it's super simplified. I think he includes masking is part of the lockdown mentality. His goal here is to go after the high yield stuff. Masking is a barrier to going outside that adds to the stress & negative effects of lockdowns, and it most certainly has negative effects on people who don't do well breathing in a lot of CO2, but that's about it. Although, health effects from long-term mask wearing could end up being quite significant. No one's studying it though.

[Cortopassi]

Ivor Cummins videos do the same thing, but you don't have to sign up for anything. He's also put out a whitepaper on the topic - you can download from his website.

I don't see it, WiseOne, do you have a link?

Here it is. Buried in the blog section.

https://thefatemperor.com/science-and-d ... -stand-up/

WiseOne,

Cummins had this statement in the PDF, which I believe was limited to Ireland: Apart from the very short, fast spike in Covid19 deaths in April when the virus was new, overall mortality for the year 2020 has not been any higher than previous years

--Do you agree or disagree that was not the case for the US? That the CDC excess mortality graph absolutely shows excess deaths, and the latest finding from this is US life expectancy went down because of it as well?

And I am just trying to compare apples to apples here -- his chart which shows similar death rates to previous years (below) specifically says only through Sept. I assume previous years are full year's worth of data? Or do you think he pulled 3 months worth of deaths out of the previous years? Otherwise he is comparing 100% full year data to 75% for 2020, which would be BS if done on purpose, and I assume he is not that sloppy.

[Hal]

Oh well.......

More of the same. State of Emergency extended until Christmas 2021 in Victoria.
But children will get 1/2 price fines - that's positive

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 576zs.html

[WiseOne]

Oh well.......

More of the same. State of Emergency extended until Christmas 2021 in Victoria.
But children will get 1/2 price fines - that's positive

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 576zs.html

I figured that lockdowns won't be officially relaxed here until next spring i.e. a year from now. I guess this reflects that same line of thought.

[Cortopassi]

WiseOne, do you not have data to answer the graph question, or do you have me on ignore? Just wondering

I'm not saying you do, all I am trying to get across is I take ALL stuff Covid with a grain of salt, both the ok to open 100% and the we have to be masked for 2 more years.

It's somewhere in the middle. Everyone gets vested in their positions, esp. when they are well known.

[WiseOne]

WiseOne, do you not have data to answer the graph question, or do you have me on ignore? Just wondering

I'm not saying you do, all I am trying to get across is I take ALL stuff Covid with a grain of salt, both the ok to open 100% and the we have to be masked for 2 more years.

It's somewhere in the middle. Everyone gets vested in their positions, esp. when they are well known.

No time to do a deep dive into data except as part of one of my 3 jobs (as a professor, Alzheimer's caregiver, and business manager for a commercial real estate holding).

I really can't do much more than make somewhat thoughtful comments these days. Sorry.

[I Shrugged]

Oh well.......

More of the same. State of Emergency extended until Christmas 2021 in Victoria.
But children will get 1/2 price fines - that's positive

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 576zs.html

I’m dying to see what happens in Victoria after this is over. Election results and such.

[pp4me]

Oh well.......

More of the same. State of Emergency extended until Christmas 2021 in Victoria.
But children will get 1/2 price fines - that's positive

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 576zs.html

I’m dying to see what happens in Victoria after this is over. Election results and such.

I followed one of the links in that article and found this....

Victoria recorded no new local cases of coronavirus on Sunday, with the number of active cases falling to 15.

Say what?

[Cortopassi]

FYI. Yeah! Not sure my daughter and her friends will be thrilled, but it is about time.