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He's toying with us now, and I would too for the flex and $35,000/month salary
He's toying with us now, and I would too for the flex and $35,000/month salary
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Umm, just say you and your kid spend 24 hours/day in a double mask. How can anyone prove otherwise?jalanlong wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:06 pmThis isnt going away anytime soon. My son’s elementary school sent out a directive today that if your child has been around anyone with Covid and was only wearing a single layer mask then they have to quarantine for 14 days. Only if they were wearing double masks are they exempt.
How they will enforce this I am not sure.
The teachers' union should be banned.
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And just in case anyone here still doesn't believe this whole thing was political:
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Cortopassi, where are you pulling that graph from? Looks like similar data to what I see on Worldometers but with a few more details.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:21 pmI predict summer.Tortoise wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:02 pmThat's certainly what should happen. But I guess we'll see how the media decides to spin new viruses going forward.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:37 pmYou guys are worry warts. This becomes another flu shot, no lockdowns. My opinion.
I also am somewhat perplexed -- you know, all the people who said Corona would "disappear" on Nov 4th? What happened?
If anything, the mainstream media is now TOO focused on Corona, probably because Trump is not there to suck oxygen out of every news cycle.
And I personally have not been following it for a while. Last I really looked at it, deaths were at 300k. Somehow they are now at 420k?!
But it seems things are moving in the right direction.
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As far as when we go back to living normal lives, I just see it as a gradual process with some fits and starts along the way. I am mentally operating on the assumption that the vaccines will be quite effective and that there may be an annual shot like the flu.
So far the rest of the world is rolling out vaccines much more slowly than we are (putting aside much smaller countries like Israel & UAE), so it looks like it will be quite a long time before international travel bounces back.
Finally, I think that areas of the US that are too stringent with continued COVID measures will be pushed economically to more or less fall in line with what the norms are elsewhere.
Just my two cents worth.
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Just received another email from my son’s elementary school:
“If students are wearing a plastic face shield or a gaiter, the student is at further risk of catching the virus if someone in the class or a teacher is infected or at the very least, further risk of having to quarantine for 10 days. This is very preventable by wearing a double layer face mask instead of a face shield, because of the student and the teacher are both properly masked, neither is considered a close contact. I know a face shield is more comfortable, but I'm asking you to have your children wear a double layer face mask covering the nose and mouth at school instead of a gaiter or face shield if that is their current choice. Not only will it prevent us from putting students at risk of having to quarantine, it's just safer.“
“If students are wearing a plastic face shield or a gaiter, the student is at further risk of catching the virus if someone in the class or a teacher is infected or at the very least, further risk of having to quarantine for 10 days. This is very preventable by wearing a double layer face mask instead of a face shield, because of the student and the teacher are both properly masked, neither is considered a close contact. I know a face shield is more comfortable, but I'm asking you to have your children wear a double layer face mask covering the nose and mouth at school instead of a gaiter or face shield if that is their current choice. Not only will it prevent us from putting students at risk of having to quarantine, it's just safer.“
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New York Times. My daughter has a free subscription through school (oooh those liberal indoctrination centers...

Illinois high schools in my area just turned on spring sports. Kids are, I think, 5 days a week as well, although my daughter and her friends are still in the pod in my basement. So improvements are happening.
On a day like today, 8" of snow, they are happy about that.
Which got me talking last night --- there will never be a snow day ever again in schools! Just go to Zoom for the day. Interesting how things change.
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The dog ate my computer.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:27 amWhich got me talking last night --- there will never be a snow day ever again in schools! Just go to Zoom for the day. Interesting how things change.

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But it sounds like you DO still have the option of using the face shield.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:14 amJust received another email from my son’s elementary school:
“If students are wearing a plastic face shield or a gaiter, the student is at further risk of catching the virus if someone in the class or a teacher is infected or at the very least, further risk of having to quarantine for 10 days. This is very preventable by wearing a double layer face mask instead of a face shield, because of the student and the teacher are both properly masked, neither is considered a close contact. I know a face shield is more comfortable, but I'm asking you to have your children wear a double layer face mask covering the nose and mouth at school instead of a gaiter or face shield if that is their current choice. Not only will it prevent us from putting students at risk of having to quarantine, it's just safer.“
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Well it says they are “asking” you to wear the double mask. They make them wear them during PE and Recess! I am going to pretend I never saw the email and see if they contact me directly to request him to wear a double mask.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:43 amBut it sounds like you DO still have the option of using the face shield.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:14 amJust received another email from my son’s elementary school:
“If students are wearing a plastic face shield or a gaiter, the student is at further risk of catching the virus if someone in the class or a teacher is infected or at the very least, further risk of having to quarantine for 10 days. This is very preventable by wearing a double layer face mask instead of a face shield, because of the student and the teacher are both properly masked, neither is considered a close contact. I know a face shield is more comfortable, but I'm asking you to have your children wear a double layer face mask covering the nose and mouth at school instead of a gaiter or face shield if that is their current choice. Not only will it prevent us from putting students at risk of having to quarantine, it's just safer.“
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And you are in Texas, right? Funny, I see the elementary school kids at recess here in Illinois, no masks.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:00 amWell it says they are “asking” you to wear the double mask. They make them wear them during PE and Recess! I am going to pretend I never saw the email and see if they contact me directly to request him to wear a double mask.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:43 amBut it sounds like you DO still have the option of using the face shield.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:14 amJust received another email from my son’s elementary school:
“If students are wearing a plastic face shield or a gaiter, the student is at further risk of catching the virus if someone in the class or a teacher is infected or at the very least, further risk of having to quarantine for 10 days. This is very preventable by wearing a double layer face mask instead of a face shield, because of the student and the teacher are both properly masked, neither is considered a close contact. I know a face shield is more comfortable, but I'm asking you to have your children wear a double layer face mask covering the nose and mouth at school instead of a gaiter or face shield if that is their current choice. Not only will it prevent us from putting students at risk of having to quarantine, it's just safer.“
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It varies by district as to how Covid crazy they are. My mother is in the same county but different school district and they are no masks at recess, they eat lunch in lunchroom as normal. My district is no touching at recess, eating at your desk surrounded by plexiglass.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:16 amAnd you are in Texas, right? Funny, I see the elementary school kids at recess here in Illinois, no masks.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:00 amWell it says they are “asking” you to wear the double mask. They make them wear them during PE and Recess! I am going to pretend I never saw the email and see if they contact me directly to request him to wear a double mask.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:43 amBut it sounds like you DO still have the option of using the face shield.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:14 amJust received another email from my son’s elementary school:
“If students are wearing a plastic face shield or a gaiter, the student is at further risk of catching the virus if someone in the class or a teacher is infected or at the very least, further risk of having to quarantine for 10 days. This is very preventable by wearing a double layer face mask instead of a face shield, because of the student and the teacher are both properly masked, neither is considered a close contact. I know a face shield is more comfortable, but I'm asking you to have your children wear a double layer face mask covering the nose and mouth at school instead of a gaiter or face shield if that is their current choice. Not only will it prevent us from putting students at risk of having to quarantine, it's just safer.“
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I should probably opt out of the coronavirus discussion forum because this one upsets me almost as much as the politics forum, esp. when talking about school!jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:41 amIt varies by district as to how Covid crazy they are. My mother is in the same county but different school district and they are no masks at recess, they eat lunch in lunchroom as normal. My district is no touching at recess, eating at your desk surrounded by plexiglass.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:16 amAnd you are in Texas, right? Funny, I see the elementary school kids at recess here in Illinois, no masks.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:00 amWell it says they are “asking” you to wear the double mask. They make them wear them during PE and Recess! I am going to pretend I never saw the email and see if they contact me directly to request him to wear a double mask.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:43 amBut it sounds like you DO still have the option of using the face shield.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:14 amJust received another email from my son’s elementary school:
“If students are wearing a plastic face shield or a gaiter, the student is at further risk of catching the virus if someone in the class or a teacher is infected or at the very least, further risk of having to quarantine for 10 days. This is very preventable by wearing a double layer face mask instead of a face shield, because of the student and the teacher are both properly masked, neither is considered a close contact. I know a face shield is more comfortable, but I'm asking you to have your children wear a double layer face mask covering the nose and mouth at school instead of a gaiter or face shield if that is their current choice. Not only will it prevent us from putting students at risk of having to quarantine, it's just safer.“
I am driven nuts watching the Chicago Teacher's Union on the news, still hemming and hawing about schools aren't safe, and I personally would lean toward giving all those teachers who are scared three options -- back to work, early retirement or getting fired. It frustrates me greatly that it is "all about the kids," with CTU, but it really doesn't seem to be. There does seem to be a large contingent of teachers with medical conditions. Maybe they need to be first in line for a shot.
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So let's see if I understand this...
One mask didn't work. So clearly, two masks will work, and you don't even need any scientific investigation whatsoever to back it up.
Yup, got it.
One mask didn't work. So clearly, two masks will work, and you don't even need any scientific investigation whatsoever to back it up.
Yup, got it.
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Just to be clear... You're talking about a vaccination "shot", right?Cortopassi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:05 pmI am driven nuts watching the Chicago Teacher's Union on the news, still hemming and hawing about schools aren't safe, and I personally would lean toward giving all those teachers who are scared three options -- back to work, early retirement or getting fired. It frustrates me greatly that it is "all about the kids," with CTU, but it really doesn't seem to be. There does seem to be a large contingent of teachers with medical conditions. Maybe they need to be first in line for a shot.
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Of course! I know a number of teachers through my experience with marching band. I have yet to find one, around here (NW suburbs) who is not completely dedicated to their job and goes over and above. I don't know what it is about the CTU in particular, but it seems there will always be some excuse. I hate being so cynical.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:24 pmJust to be clear... You're talking about a vaccination "shot", right?Cortopassi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:05 pmI am driven nuts watching the Chicago Teacher's Union on the news, still hemming and hawing about schools aren't safe, and I personally would lean toward giving all those teachers who are scared three options -- back to work, early retirement or getting fired. It frustrates me greatly that it is "all about the kids," with CTU, but it really doesn't seem to be. There does seem to be a large contingent of teachers with medical conditions. Maybe they need to be first in line for a shot.
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Government 2020+ - a BANANA REPUBLIC - if you can keep it
Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence
Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence
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It's just like government. If it doesn't work, you just need more.

Actually, I guess that also applies to socialism.
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My family talks all the time about opting out of todays news topics - We joke about needing the "Mayberry News Network - MNN"Cortopassi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:05 pmI should probably opt out of the coronavirus discussion forum because this one upsets me almost as much as the politics forum, esp. when talking about school!jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:41 amIt varies by district as to how Covid crazy they are. My mother is in the same county but different school district and they are no masks at recess, they eat lunch in lunchroom as normal. My district is no touching at recess, eating at your desk surrounded by plexiglass.Cortopassi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:16 amAnd you are in Texas, right? Funny, I see the elementary school kids at recess here in Illinois, no masks.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:00 amWell it says they are “asking” you to wear the double mask. They make them wear them during PE and Recess! I am going to pretend I never saw the email and see if they contact me directly to request him to wear a double mask.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:43 amBut it sounds like you DO still have the option of using the face shield.jalanlong wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:14 amJust received another email from my son’s elementary school:
“If students are wearing a plastic face shield or a gaiter, the student is at further risk of catching the virus if someone in the class or a teacher is infected or at the very least, further risk of having to quarantine for 10 days. This is very preventable by wearing a double layer face mask instead of a face shield, because of the student and the teacher are both properly masked, neither is considered a close contact. I know a face shield is more comfortable, but I'm asking you to have your children wear a double layer face mask covering the nose and mouth at school instead of a gaiter or face shield if that is their current choice. Not only will it prevent us from putting students at risk of having to quarantine, it's just safer.“
I am driven nuts watching the Chicago Teacher's Union on the news, still hemming and hawing about schools aren't safe, and I personally would lean toward giving all those teachers who are scared three options -- back to work, early retirement or getting fired. It frustrates me greatly that it is "all about the kids," with CTU, but it really doesn't seem to be. There does seem to be a large contingent of teachers with medical conditions. Maybe they need to be first in line for a shot.
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Good Laugh!
"Not everyone is on board with three masks, though, especially quadruple-maskers, who find three masks to be inadequate -- but most of them have suffocated to death."
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My school district deflects any questions or criticism with “ Per the Centers for Disease Control and the Collin County Health Department...”. They are just following recommendations so don’t complain to them.
They are sort of threatening you in a way. They say that according to CDC, if you are around someone with Covid and NOT wearing a double mask then you are considered exposed and must quarantine. So if you dont want to risk quarantine then double mask.
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There is only one strategy that will, without fail, put an end to this idiocy: A leak-proof plastic bag placed over the head, firmly sealed around the neck with a rubber band.
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Homeschooling is a way for you to threaten right back at the school district.
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I do wonder how all that plays into things. Certainly enrollment numbers factor into real estate taxes for schools. And I assume enrollment has gone down all over. But I don't know what kind of lag is built into that and taxes. I am sure there's going to be downsizing of lots of public schools to some extent, whether because students have gone private or home school. Or maybe even for those who will just learn from home through their whole school career, if that ends up being an option -- won't need as much building space.
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I was surprised to see this article in BMJ. Read and enjoy! tl;dr: it's a commentary suggesting that a low carb diet should be recommended to people with COVID risk factors as the best way to treat them, and reduce COVID risk.
https://ebm.bmj.com/content/26/1/1
I've kept quiet about this for the most part, but I have come to believe this also, after quite a bit of research. It's not necessary to go fully ketogenic, just limit carbs to around 20-25% of calories, and avoid the Really Bad Stuff which is sugar, grains other than rice, and industrial vegetable oils. And, supplement vitamin D as needed to get a good blood level.
It would be ironic indeed if the COVID pandemic could be effectively laid at the doorstep of the USDA and their outrageous dietary guidelines.
https://ebm.bmj.com/content/26/1/1
I've kept quiet about this for the most part, but I have come to believe this also, after quite a bit of research. It's not necessary to go fully ketogenic, just limit carbs to around 20-25% of calories, and avoid the Really Bad Stuff which is sugar, grains other than rice, and industrial vegetable oils. And, supplement vitamin D as needed to get a good blood level.
It would be ironic indeed if the COVID pandemic could be effectively laid at the doorstep of the USDA and their outrageous dietary guidelines.
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I am diabetic and actually have gotten the levels down to prediabetic and eat low carb ...it didn’t help me or my wife at all with covid