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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pugchief » Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:59 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:54 pm
pugchief wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:33 pm
idiots
That's a plausible theory for why high school students SAT scores have fallen so much in recent years. Kids who wouldn't have bothered taking them, in the past, are taking them now. Maybe because colleges have lowered admission standards, or most jobs require a bachelor's degree now.
What is this world coming to when satirical memes actually express the truth? ::)
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:35 pm

That meme was satirical?
I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me. Who knows whether that person will be wise or foolish? Yet they will have control over all the fruit of my toil into which I have poured my effort and skill under the sun. . . Nothing is better for a man than to eat and drink and enjoy his work.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by technovelist » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:07 pm

pugchief wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:59 pm
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:54 pm
pugchief wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:33 pm
idiots
That's a plausible theory for why high school students SAT scores have fallen so much in recent years. Kids who wouldn't have bothered taking them, in the past, are taking them now. Maybe because colleges have lowered admission standards, or most jobs require a bachelor's degree now.
What is this world coming to when satirical memes actually express the truth? ::)
I'm sure the editors of the Babylon Bee wonder that every day.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by vnatale » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:52 am

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... i=17258835

Dr Anthony Fauci says letting Covid-19 spread to achieve herd immunity is 'ridiculous' as infections in the US reach a two-month high with 59k cases in a single day


Dr Anthony Fauci has argued that letting Covid-19 spread in the US to achieve herd immunity is 'ridiculous'
He made the comments on Thursday when asked about the anti-lockdown Great Barrington Declaration that was published earlier this week

The declaration, which was written by experts at Oxford, Harvard and Stanford, calls for the protection of people most at risk of dying from Covid-19

It argues that the rest of the population should be able to return to life as normal

Fauci said the declaration hides that fact that 30% of the population have underlying health conditions that make them more susceptible to Covid-19

It comes as the United States reached its highest number of daily Covid-19 infections in two months with more than 59,000 cases reported on Wednesday

Deaths, however, continue to trend downward nationally with an average of more than 700 Americans dying per day
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:57 am

vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:52 am
The declaration, which was written by experts at Oxford, Harvard and Stanford, calls for the protection of people most at risk of dying from Covid-19

It argues that the rest of the population should be able to return to life as normal

Fauci said the declaration hides that fact that 30% of the population have underlying health conditions that make them more susceptible to Covid-19
Umm...

"The declaration calls for the protection of people most at risk of dying from Covid-19."

So the people with underlying health conditions (or anyone who wants to, really) can continue locking themselves down.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pp4me » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:59 am

The Corona Virus Experts were wrong and now they need Scapegoats....

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/1 ... reenfield/

I found nearly every paragraph in this article to be highly quotable so I'll just share the last one....
The rule of the experts isn’t fighting the virus. It has become the virus.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pugchief » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:50 am

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:57 am
vnatale wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:52 am
The declaration, which was written by experts at Oxford, Harvard and Stanford, calls for the protection of people most at risk of dying from Covid-19

It argues that the rest of the population should be able to return to life as normal

Fauci said the declaration hides that fact that 30% of the population have underlying health conditions that make them more susceptible to Covid-19
Umm...

"The declaration calls for the protection of people most at risk of dying from Covid-19."

So the people with underlying health conditions (or anyone who wants to, really) can continue locking themselves down.
Yes, and we certainly don't want to trust experts at these shoddy institutions.

OTOH, these are the same lunatics that want to create a non-attainable left wing utopia. So maybe we shouldn't listen to them. :-\
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Cortopassi » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:44 am

Gift from God keeps on giving.
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Freshman enrollment has dropped more than 16 percent from last year at American colleges and universities — and by nearly a quarter at community colleges — as the threat of the coronavirus has disrupted the nation’s higher education system, the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center reported Thursday.
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Assuming it is still free, this animation is cool: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... e=Homepage
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pugchief » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:20 pm

Cortopassi wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:44 am
Gift from God keeps on giving.
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Freshman enrollment has dropped more than 16 percent from last year at American colleges and universities — and by nearly a quarter at community colleges — as the threat of the coronavirus has disrupted the nation’s higher education system, the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center reported Thursday.
There are definitely a few good things coming out of the steaming pile.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by flyingpylon » Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:40 am

As Gov Cuomo and his extensive PR team attempt to “reimagine” his response to COVID-19, here’s a Twitter thread to remind everyone what an epic fail it really was.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1316 ... 96448.html
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The Covidian Cult, and Why it Has So Effectively Captured the Minds of Its Followers

Post by Maddy » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:10 am

One of the hallmarks of totalitarianism is mass conformity to a psychotic official narrative. Not a regular official narrative, like the “Cold War” or the “War on Terror” narratives. A totally delusional official narrative that has little or no connection to reality and that is contradicted by a preponderance of facts.
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These narratives are invariably paranoid, portraying the cult as threatened or persecuted by an evil enemy or antagonistic force which only unquestioning conformity to the cult’s ideology can save its members from. It makes little difference whether this antagonist is mainstream culture, body thetans, counter-revolutionaries, Jews, or a virus.

The point is not the identity of the enemy. The point is the atmosphere of paranoia and hysteria the official narrative generates, which keeps the cult members (or the society) compliant.

In addition to being paranoid, these narratives are often internally inconsistent, illogical, and … well, just completely ridiculous. This does not weaken them, as one might suspect. Actually, it increases their power, as it forces their adherents to attempt to reconcile their inconsistency and irrationality, and in many cases utter absurdity, in order to remain in good standing with the cult.

Such reconciliation is of course impossible, and causes the cult members’ minds to short circuit and abandon any semblance of critical thinking, which is precisely what the cult leader wants.

Moreover, cult leaders will often radically change these narratives for no apparent reason, forcing their cult members to abruptly forswear (and often even denounce as “heresy”) the beliefs they had previously been forced to profess, and behave as if they had never believed them, which causes their minds to further short circuit, until they eventually give up even trying to think rationally, and just mindlessly parrot whatever nonsensical gibberish the cult leader fills their heads with.

Also, the cult leader’s nonsensical gibberish is not as nonsensical as it may seem at first. Most of us, upon encountering such gibberish, assume that the cult leader is trying to communicate, and that something is very wrong with his brain. The cult leader isn’t trying to communicate. He is trying to disorient and control the listener’s mind.
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It is happening to most of our societies right now. An official narrative is being implemented. A totalitarian official narrative. A totally psychotic official narrative, no less delusional than that of the Nazis, or the Manson family, or any other cult.
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When reality falls apart completely, the mind will create a delusional narrative, which appears just as “real” as our normal reality, because even a delusion is better than the stark raving terror of utter chaos.

This is what totalitarians and cult leaders count on, and exploit to implant their narratives in our minds, and why actual initiation rituals (as opposed to purely symbolic rituals) begin by attacking the subject’s mind with terror, pain, physical exhaustion, psychedelic drugs, or some other means of obliterating the subject’s perception of reality.

Once that is achieved, and the subject’s mind starts desperately trying to construct a new narrative to make sense out of the cognitive chaos and psychological trauma it is undergoing, it is relatively easy to “guide” that process and implant whatever narrative you want. . .
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Their initiation into the Covidian Cult began in January, when the medical authorities and corporate media turned on The Fear with projections of hundreds of millions of deaths and fake photos of people dropping dead in the streets. The psychological conditioning has continued for months.

The global masses have been subjected to a constant stream of propaganda, manufactured hysteria, wild speculation, conflicting directives, exaggerations, lies, and tawdry theatrical effects. Lockdowns. Emergency field hospitals and morgues. The singing-dancing NHS staff. Death trucks. Overflowing ICUs. Dead Covid babies. Manipulated statistics. Goon squads. Masks. And all the rest of it.

Eight months later, here we are. The Head of the Health Emergencies Program at the WHO has basically confirmed an IFR of 0.14%, approximately the same as the seasonal flu.
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The “science” argument is officially over. An increasing number of doctors and medical experts are breaking ranks and explaining how the current mass hysteria over “cases” (which now includes perfectly healthy people) is essentially meaningless propaganda. . .
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Which does not matter in the least, not to the members of the Covidian Cult. Facts do not matter to totalitarians and cult members. What matters is loyalty to the cult or the party.

Which means we have a serious problem, those of us to whom facts still matter, and who have been trying to use them to convince the Covidian cultists that they are wrong about the virus … for going on eight months at this point.
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What we are up against is not a misunderstanding or a rational argument over scientific facts. It is a fanatical ideological movement. A global totalitarian movement … the first of its kind in human history.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/10/13/the-covidian-cult/
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