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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 5:51 pm
by technovelist

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:23 pm
by pugchief

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Fri May 22, 2020 6:37 pm
by technovelist
pugchief wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 6:23 pm
He (Cuomo) actually has an approval rating around 80% in both NY state and the US. This may change as this all gets blamed on him, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
So most people are woefully ignorant about how awful he is.
I guess the fact that he has been getting a daily tongue bath from the lamestream media would account for that.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 6:51 am
by Kriegsspiel
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;D ;D ;D

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:56 am
by sophie
Maybe it was a secret plot to clear out nursing homes and thus reduce the state's Medicaid expenses?

Here's another reason that I secretly suspect is a big contributor: illegal immigrants and "chain-migration". Just one baby born to an illegal immigrant in the US, and a whole extended family is suddenly eligible to migrate here legally. Many of them come here because they have chronic conditions that are treated here for free, plus they are eligible for SSI, food stamps, subsidized housing etc. In their country of origin, they have to pay for care and there's no reward for being sick. This introduces a selection bias that creates a sicker/more vulnerable population here compared to the original population in the country of origin. Check out this map of COVID cases broken down by zip code:

https://flo.uri.sh/visualisation/1832440/embed

Notice that the most densely populated and most frequently traveled-through borough (Manhattan), also the trendy neighborhoods in Brooklyn like Park Slope, has the lightest caseload. So do predominantly Asian neighborhoods like Flushing. Make the whole city like these zip codes, and suddenly coronavirus wouldn't be such a big deal here.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:43 am
by technovelist
sophie wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 9:56 am
Maybe it was a secret plot to clear out nursing homes and thus reduce the state's Medicaid expenses?

Here's another reason that I secretly suspect is a big contributor: illegal immigrants and "chain-migration". Just one baby born to an illegal immigrant in the US, and a whole extended family is suddenly eligible to migrate here legally. Many of them come here because they have chronic conditions that are treated here for free, plus they are eligible for SSI, food stamps, subsidized housing etc. In their country of origin, they have to pay for care and there's no reward for being sick. This introduces a selection bias that creates a sicker/more vulnerable population here compared to the original population in the country of origin. Check out this map of COVID cases broken down by zip code:

https://flo.uri.sh/visualisation/1832440/embed

Notice that the most densely populated and most frequently traveled-through borough (Manhattan), also the trendy neighborhoods in Brooklyn like Park Slope, has the lightest caseload. So do predominantly Asian neighborhoods like Flushing. Make the whole city like these zip codes, and suddenly coronavirus wouldn't be such a big deal here.
But, but, but... that's racist! >:D

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 4:18 pm
by pp4me
I have no idea what a "Certian Death" is but it sounds pretty bad.

Another comparison could be made to the troop ships heading for Europe in WW1. This might be a more apt comparison because a lot of those soldiers were carrying the Spanish Flu with them and would die from it before they ever reached the foxholes. Not to mention spreading it all over Europe.

No total lockdowns back then. Obviously war is essential business.
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 6:51 am
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;D ;D ;D

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 8:12 am
by dualstow
pp4me wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 4:18 pm
I have no idea what a "Certian Death" is but it sounds pretty bad.

They are very powerful mints, those Certs.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:18 pm
by Smith1776
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:24 pm
by Xan
"Scientists and Doctors" may (or may not be) right as far as the science and medicine, but they certainly have no special place at the policy-making table where laws are made, or at the kitchen table where personal decisions are made.

They have an input, sure, but any policy recommendations they make are far from infallible, in fact, their recommendations will only be from one perspective without counting the costs involved from any other side.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 8:06 pm
by Mark Leavy
How many scientists make good CEO's, investors, entrepreneurs or poker players?
None.

Broad spectrum risk management is not in their repertoire.

Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 8:25 pm
by Smith1776
You guys are going a bit further than my light-hearted intention with the meme. I'm mostly poking fun at the people on my social media feed that are convinced that 5G cell towers are spreading the virus. Your points are well taken and I agree with the general sentiment though.