Coronavirus General Discussion

[Mark Leavy]

No first hand, but if Terlingua is shut down, we’ve come to the end of the world.

That is a hell of a good idea. Big Bend has been on my list of 'must see' for quite a while.
Thanks!

[Mountaineer]

No first hand, but if Terlingua is shut down, we’ve come to the end of the world.

That is a hell of a good idea. Big Bend has been on my list of 'must see' for quite a while.
Thanks!

Check out Fort Davis for a look at the fort and get some Mountain Oysters to supplement your ribeye. And the old cinnabar mines are worth a look at Terlingua.

Big Bend NP is the quietest place I have ever been. We stopped around 50 years ago at a saber tooth tiger display on the way to the park from Marfa or Alpine (my memory is fuzzy on the exact name and location of the places) and no one else was there. Not a sound, no birds, insects, etc. I remember being able to hear my resting heart beat - quite noticeable. Erieeeeeeeeeeee!

[barrett]

Mark,

As you are already in Nevada I wanted to ask if you have ever been to the Utah parks. My wife and I recently spent a bit of time in Arches & Canyonlands and they are both fantastic. Moab is the base for both. Zion and Bryce are also great with Zion being close to where you are (depending on whether or not you've moved north from Vegas). Don't know how restrictive Utah is now with Miss Rona. We were out there the 2nd week of November so you should ask around. I think you mentioned Sedona, AZ in a recent post. Also a great spot.

I love hiking so all of these places are heaven for me. Avoid anywhere that is administered by the Navajos right now (Antelope Canyon & I'm guessing Canyon de Chelly as well) as those have been closed to visitors since March (which for you might be an "opportunity").

You've been to so many places that you may already know all of these spots. If I had to pick one area out there, it would be the holy trinity of Moab/Arches/Canyonlands.

[dualstow]

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I have to admit, that's pretty good.

[I Shrugged]

Now that I think of it, Terlingua IS the end of the world.

Let us know what you find.

[Mark Leavy]

Mark,

As you are already in Nevada I wanted to ask if you have ever been to the Utah parks.

Yes, I've been through all of those parks. Just beautiful. Never hurts to see / hike them again, though.

[Kriegsspiel]

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I have to admit, that's pretty good.

I lold.

[WiseOne]

It begins...

https://nypost.com/2020/12/04/san-franc ... -lockdown/

San Francisco just announced a total lockdown, more severe than what we had in NYC back in the spring.

Goodbye to Calfornia's economy. I expect very few small businesses will make it through this.

And, too bad they didn't catch WHO's report, based on multiple medical journal articles, about the ineffectiveness of lockdowns.

[Libertarian666]

It begins...

https://nypost.com/2020/12/04/san-franc ... -lockdown/

San Francisco just announced a total lockdown, more severe than what we had in NYC back in the spring.

Goodbye to Calfornia's economy. I expect very few small businesses will make it through this.

And, too bad they didn't catch WHO's report, based on multiple medical journal articles, about the ineffectiveness of lockdowns.

I doubt that would have mattered.
They are mad with power and don't give a crap about the people suffering under their tyranny.

[boglerdude]

Well, they're effective at getting everyone to shop at Amazon. And if anyone's mad about that, they can have a Zoom protest.

[vnatale]

This seems to be an apt quote to put in this topic...

Vinny



Many medical facts are not facts in any sense of the
word, they have simply been made up. And that, ladies
and gentlemen, is a fact.

—Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, Doctoring Data

[Tortoise]

Many medical facts are not facts in any sense of the
word, they have simply been made up. And that, ladies
and gentlemen, is a fact.

—Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, Doctoring Data

Our guiding light is better than mere medical facts. We have The Science.

[boglerdude]

Message from Riverside County Sheriff's Department

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvvRme0h2oY

[pp4me]

Many medical facts are not facts in any sense of the
word, they have simply been made up. And that, ladies
and gentlemen, is a fact.

—Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, Doctoring Data

Our guiding light is better than mere medical facts. We have The Science.

Orwell talked about the "Ministry of Truth" in 1984 but I think he got the title wrong. It will be the "Ministry of Science". They will tell us what the science says. The administrator will occupy a cabinet position and thus need to be confirmed by the senate so we can all agree that they are trustworthy. Doodle will probably like it.

[Lonestar]

I've got a question. We are 10 months into this pandemic and we are still arguing over the effectiveness of wearing a mask. There appears to be an issue of personal rights, efficacy of the mask, as well as the subject has obviously been politicized.

Do we have any high quality studies on the efficacy of the different types of face coverings? I'm speaking of published scientific studies showing what type of mask(s) filter the virus particle, both for receiving and transmitting.

This kind of data just might prove effective in addressing this volatile issue, and minimize "opinions" from Fauci, Trump, Biden, et al.

Also, it seems medical academia would be looking closer at monitoring antibodies in previous Covid patients. There are estimates, all over the place, as to how long a person is immune after the infection. Isn't this really important to know going forward?

[flyingpylon]

Many medical facts are not facts in any sense of the
word, they have simply been made up. And that, ladies
and gentlemen, is a fact.

—Dr. Malcolm Kendrick, Doctoring Data

Our guiding light is better than mere medical facts. We have The Science.

Orwell talked about the "Ministry of Truth" in 1984 but I think he got the title wrong. It will be the "Ministry of Science". They will tell us what the science says. The administrator will occupy a cabinet position and thus need to be confirmed by the senate so we can all agree that they are trustworthy. Doodle will probably like it.

Seems like science is just politics with more data.

[boglerdude]

whatsherface - I love my mask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGYQU1WRGxI

[Tortoise]

‘Everybody dies’: Musk says neither he nor his family will take Covid-19 vaccine, blasts Bill Gates as ‘knucklehead’

[vnatale]

‘Everybody dies’: Musk says neither he nor his family will take Covid-19 vaccine, blasts Bill Gates as ‘knucklehead’

I had my annual Medicare wellness "visit" (it was telemedicine) with my doctor today. We discussed the vaccine.

He said he's advising taking it as soon as Dr. Fauci recommends it. During our 1/2 meeting I several times wanted to ask him, "So that means you did not vote for Trump?".

He added that I'd probably not be able to get it until next summer...until those way ahead of me in priority first get the vaccine.

I had another friend (75 years old) tell me last week that in Massachusetts there are about 2,000,000 people ahead of him.

Vinny

[Kriegsspiel]

I'm pretty much in complete agreement with Elon The Magnificent.

[vnatale]

I'm pretty much in complete agreement with Elon The Magnificent.

I am going to go with my doctor's recommendation. He a generally a "let's do what the studies say" type person. Not a hunch doctor.

A few years ago he convinced me to forego any prostate testing as the negative outcomes of all their false positives far outweigh the benefits of treatments for the real positives.

Vinny

[Kriegsspiel]

I'm pretty much in complete agreement with Elon The Magnificent.

I am going to go with my doctor's recommendation. He a generally a "let's do what the studies say" type person. Not a hunch doctor.

A few years ago he convinced me to forego any prostate testing as the negative outcomes of all their false positives far outweigh the benefits of treatments for the real positives.

Vinny

Elon The Magnificient, First Of His Name, just shot some humans into space. Need I go on?

[vnatale]

I'm pretty much in complete agreement with Elon The Magnificent.

I am going to go with my doctor's recommendation. He a generally a "let's do what the studies say" type person. Not a hunch doctor.

A few years ago he convinced me to forego any prostate testing as the negative outcomes of all their false positives far outweigh the benefits of treatments for the real positives.

Vinny

Elon The Magnificient, First Of His Name, just shot some humans into space. Need I go on?

Are you going to go to him for medical advice? To perform surgery on you? Prepare your tax return? Fix your car? Put in a new furnace in your house?

Vinny

[Mark Leavy]

Are you going to go to him for medical advice? To perform surgery on you? Prepare your tax return? Fix your car? Put in a new furnace in your house?

Vinny

Me and Elon and Kriegs. We do our own surgery. Bill Gates and your sawbones can suck eggs.

[dualstow]

I’m glad I’d swallowed the last of my coffee before reading these last two pages.