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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Kriegsspiel » Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:59 pm

Frankly, it's completely bonkers that Australia is in such a tizzy about the 'rona with all the deadly nightmares it's already stocked up on.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Hal » Wed Sep 02, 2020 9:12 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:59 pm
Frankly, it's completely bonkers that Australia is in such a tizzy about the 'rona with all the deadly nightmares it's already stocked up on.
"+1" Lucky Australia is an island so these critters don't visit you
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by boglerdude » Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:27 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/AustralianPoli ... my_facing/

Australia's 1st recession in 30 years. what about Dalios "cycles." The real world changes and backtesting doesnt predict the future.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Hal » Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:54 am

boglerdude wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:27 am
https://www.reddit.com/r/AustralianPoli ... my_facing/

Australia's 1st recession in 30 years. what about Dalios "cycles." The real world changes and backtesting doesnt predict the future.
Check out the chart
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/austr ... rop-record
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by sophie » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:22 am

Tortoise wrote:
Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:55 pm
Massachusetts' government has put barriers in place for learning pods to make sure they don't compete too much with the teachers' unions:
Learning pods, or groups convened by up to five families, will be able to operate without licenses, as long as a parent is on-site at all times. Payments are not allowed, and exchanges of funds are limited to compensation for food and materials.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/08/28/ ... e-schools/
Good luck enforcing that. All the parents have to do is claim the tutors are babysitters. Making child care and homeschooling illegal would be a pretty tough bar for the state to cross.

The backlash will be fun to watch. And yes, I expect this is all about teacher's unions and protecting public schools. I foresee these pod schools becoming quite popular to the point where a lot of people will opt out of the public schools, once they see how much better the pod schools are than the state-run, teach to the lowest common denominator public schools. I sure as heck would have preferred it to public schools when I was growing up.
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Vitamin D therapy : Randomized Study

Post by Mark Leavy » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:56 am

Finally Confirmed! Vitamin D Nearly Abolishes ICU Risk in COVID-19

Chris Masterjohn, Phd (And no slouch) discusses the details of this Spanish study.
The results are astounding: vitamin D nearly abolished the odds of requiring treatment in ICU. Although the number of deaths was too small to say for sure, vitamin D may actually abolish the risk of death from COVID-19.
This is equivalent to 106,400 IU vitamin D on day 1, 53,200 IU on days 3 and 7, and 53,200 IU weekly thereafter. If this were given as daily doses, it would be the equivalent of 30,400 per day for the first week, followed by a maintenance dose of 7,600 IU per day.
Probably out of the range for home experimentation, but pretty interesting.
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Re: Vitamin D therapy : Randomized Study

Post by pp4me » Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:16 am

Mark Leavy wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:56 am
Finally Confirmed! Vitamin D Nearly Abolishes ICU Risk in COVID-19

Chris Masterjohn, Phd (And no slouch) discusses the details of this Spanish study.
The results are astounding: vitamin D nearly abolished the odds of requiring treatment in ICU. Although the number of deaths was too small to say for sure, vitamin D may actually abolish the risk of death from COVID-19.
This is equivalent to 106,400 IU vitamin D on day 1, 53,200 IU on days 3 and 7, and 53,200 IU weekly thereafter. If this were given as daily doses, it would be the equivalent of 30,400 per day for the first week, followed by a maintenance dose of 7,600 IU per day.
Probably out of the range for home experimentation, but pretty interesting.
I heard someone say the other day that 98% of people who have died from COVID had low levels of Vitamin D.

Occurred to me that this would be a more likely reason for dark skinned people being disproportionally affected than blaming it on institutional racism/white supremacy as Ms. Harris did in her acceptance speech.

I spend lots of time in the Florida sun, maybe too much at times, but I have been taking a Vitamin D supplement for a long time.
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Re: Vitamin D therapy : Randomized Study

Post by Tortoise » Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:52 pm

pp4me wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:16 am
I heard someone say the other day that 98% of people who have died from COVID had low levels of Vitamin D.
The majority of them also had one or more comorbidities like obesity, diabetes, and heart disease. And unfortunately, such comorbidities aren't cured simply by popping vitamin D pills.

It would be interesting to know more details about the patient group in the Spanish study: Age, ethnicity, comorbidities, etc.
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Re: Vitamin D therapy : Randomized Study

Post by pp4me » Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:05 pm

Tortoise wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:52 pm
The majority of them also had one or more comorbidities like obesity, diabetes, and heart disease. And unfortunately, such comorbidities aren't cured simply by popping vitamin D pills.
I'm pretty sure you're right that popping vitamin D pills won't cure those conditions but I believe I have read that insufficient levels of vitamin D has been "linked" to all of them, especially obesity.

Whether "linked" means there is actual evidence or not I'll leave to people like Sophie who actually have to figure this stuff out.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Maddy » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:44 am

From a scientific point of view, PCR tests are meaningless:
https://bpa-pathology.com/covid19-pcr-t ... aningless/
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by technovelist » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:12 am

Maddy wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:44 am
From a scientific point of view, PCR tests are meaningless:
https://bpa-pathology.com/covid19-pcr-t ... aningless/
Yes, but from a political point of view, they're great for scaring people.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by vnatale » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:15 am

There is a doctor on C-Span Washington Journal right now. Dr. Howard Bauchner. Editor in Chief of a Journal (title left too soon for me to type it).

He stated that "excess deaths" in this country is now about 250,000. Expects it to be about 500,000 this year.

Normally, about 1,000,000 people die each year in this country. Therefore, he's saying it looks like it will be 1,500,000 this year.

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