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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by barrett » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:43 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:37 pm
Islamic housewives?
Or clothes from surgery?
Casual Friday
No escape from COVID-19

Open up wide,
Keep up social distancing,
I'm just a young boy, I need no sympathy,
I'll spread it if I cough, if I blow,
out my nose, sans elbow,
Any way this thing goes, doesn't really matter to me, to me.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pugchief » Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:49 pm

Illinois on shelter-in-place lockdown effective tomorrow per governor.
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Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:28 pm

This Lt. Gen. from the Army Corps of Engineers (presently on C-Span with others) is absolutely wild! They ARE ready to start building more hospital spaces in every state in the country!

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:42 pm

pugchief wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:49 pm
Illinois on shelter-in-place lockdown effective tomorrow per governor.
What are the exceptions? How do you prove you are an exception?

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by pugchief » Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:56 pm

You can still go to the doctor, the grocery and gas stations, etc.

The thing is, there's nowhere to go anyway bc everything else is closed, so it's really just a notification to the people who aren't taking it seriously.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:12 pm

If you missed it the first time around, C-Span is getting showing today's Coronavirus Response. It just started and Trump's just wrapping up his comments before he turns it over to the others there.

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by sophie » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:37 pm

technovelist wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:09 pm
I believe it is for hydroxychloroquine but my understanding is that they are very similar drugs. I'm not a doctor or pharmacist, so I can't say exactly what the differences might be.

As for whether the POTUS could order the FDA commissioner to approve a drug, the FDA is an (illegal) executive branch agency, so it is under POTUS' authority. So I'm pretty sure the Constitutional answer would be yes.

In any event, every potential treatment that has a reasonable safety record in other uses must be used if we are to head off disaster.
There's some confusion here...the Chinese report was for chloroquine, which is a malaria drug that is common around the world but not available in the US. The news articles here, and the French study etc, was for hydroxychloroquine, trade name Plaquenil. It's an immune-modulating/anti-inflammatory drug used for rheumatoid arthritis, and of course already FDA approved for that indication. Using it for COVID-19 would be an off-label use, which insurance companies sometimes raise a stink about but that doctors actually do all the time. And I can't imagine insurance companies balking at paying for a cheap med for COVID patients because that would be the negative press of the century.

I'm just as confused as you guys are. Those two drugs may be chemically related, but they are NOT the same.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Smith1776 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:53 pm

First work, then the gym, then school, and finally... my music lessons.

All of my daily out of house routines are officially closed.

It's weirdly liberating.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by technovelist » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:14 pm

sophie wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:37 pm
technovelist wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:09 pm
I believe it is for hydroxychloroquine but my understanding is that they are very similar drugs. I'm not a doctor or pharmacist, so I can't say exactly what the differences might be.

As for whether the POTUS could order the FDA commissioner to approve a drug, the FDA is an (illegal) executive branch agency, so it is under POTUS' authority. So I'm pretty sure the Constitutional answer would be yes.

In any event, every potential treatment that has a reasonable safety record in other uses must be used if we are to head off disaster.
There's some confusion here...the Chinese report was for chloroquine, which is a malaria drug that is common around the world but not available in the US. The news articles here, and the French study etc, was for hydroxychloroquine, trade name Plaquenil. It's an immune-modulating/anti-inflammatory drug used for rheumatoid arthritis, and of course already FDA approved for that indication. Using it for COVID-19 would be an off-label use, which insurance companies sometimes raise a stink about but that doctors actually do all the time. And I can't imagine insurance companies balking at paying for a cheap med for COVID patients because that would be the negative press of the century.

I'm just as confused as you guys are. Those two drugs may be chemically related, but they are NOT the same.
Thanks, I guess. :P

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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by Smith1776 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:15 pm

I have another date today with that girl I told you guys about. The one that lives down the street.

We have not been practicing social distancing. O0
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by dualstow » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:19 pm

Haha! Stay safe (in the microbial sense at least).
technovelist wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:14 pm
sophie wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:37 pm
...

I'm just as confused as you guys are. Those two drugs may be chemically related, but they are NOT the same.
Thanks, I guess. :P

...
Made me laugh out loud.
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Re: Coronavirus General Discussion

Post by vnatale » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:28 pm

Smith1776 wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:15 pm
I have another date today with that girl I told you guys about. The one that lives down the street.

We have not been practicing social distancing. O0
The medical person for the state of Ohio coined a different two word phrase for the ever-present "social distancing". Though I heard it within the last two hours I'm forgetting it.

She was emphasizing that we could still be social in different ways (like we all are here) but at a distance.

Could have been "Practical distancing"?

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