Re: A Fed Thread
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:46 am
Yes, to a large extent this is yelling at the TV and expecting something to change. But isn't that a big part of what we do here?
Awesome, I loved this. It should go down in the board's hall of great quotes!
I little more yelling...I'm no lawyer nor do I pretend to have any insight into constitutionality....but getting back to the Fed.
I do have a fair bit of the social sciences under my belt as well as economics and I have just never understood what the big issue is with the fed; my argument is as a follows:
1. Pure and simple, money is whatever people believe it is. If they accept something as a store of value that isn't the actual thing then its money. This has always been the case throughout history. Copper disks, seashells, tulips, silver, gold, wheat, clay tablets...there's been a lot of things that have been money. In today's world it's not even paper dollars, it's computer 1s and 0s.
2. In my experience hard money enthusiasts really only look at part of the actual behavior of the stuff. They are all over it's benefits when it comes to constraining inflation, but historically it just has not performed that way for a very simple reason...you can take gold (for example) and add a bunch of other metal to it or mint a much smaller piece of it and stick the same number on it...and governments have done that repeatedly. And, in more recent history no one in their right minds will go back to a gold standard because in a shrinking economy a fixed money standard exacerbates liquidity shortages sometimes to an amazing degree. Such behavior is just plain harmful and counterproductive.
3. Finally, why have most "smart" countries walled of their Fed's from their political processes...see paragraph 2 above. Surprise, politicians will simply do what is best for them and that often ends up being "really" turning on the printing presses. (However, what is really weird is turning on the printing presses isn't doing what it used to...as I've noted before on the board, there is probably a Nobel in Economics to whomever explains what is going on now...historically, this is truly weird stuff)
Awesome, I loved this. It should go down in the board's hall of great quotes!
I little more yelling...I'm no lawyer nor do I pretend to have any insight into constitutionality....but getting back to the Fed.
I do have a fair bit of the social sciences under my belt as well as economics and I have just never understood what the big issue is with the fed; my argument is as a follows:
1. Pure and simple, money is whatever people believe it is. If they accept something as a store of value that isn't the actual thing then its money. This has always been the case throughout history. Copper disks, seashells, tulips, silver, gold, wheat, clay tablets...there's been a lot of things that have been money. In today's world it's not even paper dollars, it's computer 1s and 0s.
2. In my experience hard money enthusiasts really only look at part of the actual behavior of the stuff. They are all over it's benefits when it comes to constraining inflation, but historically it just has not performed that way for a very simple reason...you can take gold (for example) and add a bunch of other metal to it or mint a much smaller piece of it and stick the same number on it...and governments have done that repeatedly. And, in more recent history no one in their right minds will go back to a gold standard because in a shrinking economy a fixed money standard exacerbates liquidity shortages sometimes to an amazing degree. Such behavior is just plain harmful and counterproductive.
3. Finally, why have most "smart" countries walled of their Fed's from their political processes...see paragraph 2 above. Surprise, politicians will simply do what is best for them and that often ends up being "really" turning on the printing presses. (However, what is really weird is turning on the printing presses isn't doing what it used to...as I've noted before on the board, there is probably a Nobel in Economics to whomever explains what is going on now...historically, this is truly weird stuff)