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Bill Gates Becomes Latest Billionaire To Grapple With Elizabeth Warren

Post by vnatale » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:45 am

For me...in terms of believability and support. Elizabeth Warren is in the 60s while Bill Gates is in the 60s....

2 things regarding Gates on Warren:

Bill Gates Becomes Latest Billionaire To Grapple With Elizabeth Warren

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeikleb ... 9e8dca3d02

Bill Gates Objects to Elizabeth Warren’s Wealth Tax, and She Offers to Explain

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/us/p ... Position=1

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Post by dualstow » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:31 pm

I haven't looked at the links, but I was going to mention Gates in the wealth tax thread since that is what he specifically opposes. Saw his interview with Andrew Ross Sorkin.
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Post by Smith1776 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:57 pm

Some billionaires are worthy targets of scrutiny and even ridicule.

Gates isn't one of them.

The man is using his wealth for insane good, and is pledging to use it for vaccines, saving lives, and helping the poorest of the poor.

Warren is off the mark here. Gates made his fortune by serving society. He started a phenomenal company that delivered software to society that we all needed. Now he's giving it back through philanthropy. And somehow he's the bad guy? He's done more good for society than Warren has.
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Post by dualstow » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:08 pm

Have to pick on Bernie Sanders a little, too. He tweeted,
Say Bill Gates was actually taxed $100 billion.

We could end homelessness and provide safe drinking water to everyone in this country.

Bill would still be a multibillionaire.
To think that the government would spend the money more efficiently than Gates has been doing fighting diseases and bringing indoor toilets to India - laughable.

Src of tweet. (I don't know the site. It's just what came up when I googled the right quote). https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... ssness-and
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Re: Bill Gates Becomes Latest Billionaire To Grapple With Elizabeth Warren

Post by vnatale » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:23 pm

Smith1776 wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:57 pm
Some billionaires are worthy targets of scrutiny and even ridicule.

Gates isn't one of them.

The man is using his wealth for insane good, and is pledging to use it for vaccines, saving lives, and helping the poorest of the poor.

Warren is off the mark here. Gates made his fortune by serving society. He started a phenomenal company that delivered software to society that we all needed. Now he's giving it back through philanthropy. And somehow he's the bad guy? He's done more good for society than Warren has.
Agree with all as stated....

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Post by vnatale » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:24 pm

dualstow wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:08 pm
Have to pick on Bernie Sanders a little, too. He tweeted,
Say Bill Gates was actually taxed $100 billion.

We could end homelessness and provide safe drinking water to everyone in this country.

Bill would still be a multibillionaire.
To think that the government would spend the money more efficiently than Gates has been doing fighting diseases and bringing indoor toilets to India - laughable.

Src of tweet. (I don't know the site. It's just what came up when I googled the right quote). https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/ ... ssness-and
Has Bernie ever worked a hard non-government job day in his life? I know the communes he was in complained about him because all he wanted to do was sit around debate rather than doing necessary work that needed to be done.

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Post by dualstow » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:35 pm

I'm sure he's a very hard worker.
He also refused to call Maduro a dictator. That's a show stopper.
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Post by vnatale » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:44 pm

dualstow wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:35 pm
I'm sure he's a very hard worker.
He also refused to call Maduro a dictator. That's a show stopper.
I've never been convinced of your first sentence.

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Post by Mountaineer » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:58 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:44 pm
dualstow wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:35 pm
I'm sure he's a very hard worker.
He also refused to call Maduro a dictator. That's a show stopper.
I've never been convinced of your first sentence.

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I expect he is a very hard worker; perhaps just not by your definition of hard worker. He obviously likes to work hard for peaches. ;)

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Re: Bill Gates Becomes Latest Billionaire To Grapple With Elizabeth Warren

Post by I Shrugged » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:22 pm

The big assumption of taxing is that the government will spend the money to better ends than would the taxpayers. It's so accepted that it is never even questioned.
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Re: Bill Gates Becomes Latest Billionaire To Grapple With Elizabeth Warren

Post by boglerdude » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:51 pm

So where are the taxes to feed the orphans supposed to come from, if not from people with 10 yachts

Gates like every other capitalist did plenty of shady stuff. https://www.quora.com/Is-Bill-Gates-evil

Although Id rather roll back patent protections to generate more overall wealth, before searching peoples homes for their gold.
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Re: Bill Gates Becomes Latest Billionaire To Grapple With Elizabeth Warren

Post by technovelist » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:37 am

boglerdude wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:51 pm
So where are the taxes to feed the orphans supposed to come from, if not from people with 10 yachts

Gates like every other capitalist did plenty of shady stuff. https://www.quora.com/Is-Bill-Gates-evil

Although Id rather roll back patent protections to generate more overall wealth, before searching peoples homes for their gold.
So you are actually a socialist.
Let's see you contribute all of your wealth above the median level to the poor.
Then we'll talk about billionaires.
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