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My Democtratic candidate grades!

Post by vnatale » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:25 am

I put on C-Span this morning and they had on the Democratic candidates speaking in Iowa.

My grades (without comment) for each I heard in order:

Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - B
Elizabeth Warren - C-
Kamala Harris - C-
Tom Steyer - A

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Post by pugchief » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:05 pm

Since Steyer and Yang have virtually zero chance of becoming the eventual nominee, what cognitive dissonance will get you to vote for Biden or Warren considering the grade you have given them? The only other one with a prayer is Sanders, and I believe you said in another thread that you dislike him as well.
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Post by jacksonm2 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:07 pm

pugchief wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:05 pm
Since Steyer and Yang have virtually zero chance of becoming the eventual nominee, what cognitive dissonance will get you to vote for Biden or Warren considering the grade you have given them? The only other one with a prayer is Sanders, and I believe you said in another thread that you dislike him as well.
If an avowed socialist becomes the Dem nominee that would certainly be a watershed moment in American politics, wouldn't it? And if he actually won the presidency? OMFG - my how times have changed.
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Post by vnatale » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:52 pm

pugchief wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:05 pm
Since Steyer and Yang have virtually zero chance of becoming the eventual nominee, what cognitive dissonance will get you to vote for Biden or Warren considering the grade you have given them? The only other one with a prayer is Sanders, and I believe you said in another thread that you dislike him as well.
Since Trump also gets an F (as does Bernie and Biden) I have stated that if it comes down two either Bernie or Biden against Trump, I'm voting for the best third party candidate.

I'd vote for either Warren or Harris if they were against Trump. But my other three A's are Klobuchar, Gabbard, and Buttigieg. So, there is still hope one of them prevails over both Warren and Harris.

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Re: My Democtratic candidate grades!

Post by Cortopassi » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:59 pm

Mayor Pete is my choice. I prefer a well spoken nice guy type president.

And ones a few decades younger than the rest of the front runners!
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Post by dualstow » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:25 pm

Cortopassi wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:59 pm
Mayor Pete is my choice. I prefer a well spoken nice guy type president.

And ones a few decades younger than the rest of the front runners!
Very likeable fellow.
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Post by Kriegsspiel » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 pm

Articulate, likeable fellows are people you want as neighbors, or the head of the PTA. I don't see them succeeding as the head of a country.
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Re: My Democtratic candidate grades!

Post by dualstow » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:51 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
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Articulate, likeable fellows are people you want as neighbors, or the head of the PTA. I don't see them succeeding as the head of a country.
I take it you give Obama a D or an F?
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Post by vnatale » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:02 pm

Cortopassi wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:59 pm
Mayor Pete is my choice. I prefer a well spoken nice guy type president.

And ones a few decades younger than the rest of the front runners!
And, is it me, or does it seem that he spend more time on what he can provide rather than holding himself up as who you have to vote for so as to no longer have Trump?

Seemed like that was all I heard Biden talk about today. Why we had to vote for him so as to end the Reign of Trump.

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Post by vnatale » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:06 pm

dualstow wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:51 pm
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 pm
Articulate, likeable fellows are people you want as neighbors, or the head of the PTA. I don't see them succeeding as the head of a country.
I take it you give Obama a D or an F?
I know your question was not directed at me. But I give Obama an A but I never totally got the articulate part. Maybe in comparison to his predecessor? But I oftentimes heard in his speech patterns (and, I am referring to when he was NOT giving a prepared speech) a lot of verbal tics - the "Ums".

That always told me that he was being arrogant in believing that he was so smart that he did not have to prepare and those verbal tics were giving him time to quickly think of an answer to a question he was unprepared to answer.

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Post by technovelist » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:44 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:25 am
I put on C-Span this morning and they had on the Democratic candidates speaking in Iowa.

My grades (without comment) for each I heard in order:

Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - B
Elizabeth Warren - C-
Kamala Harris - C-
Tom Steyer - A

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My grades:

Joe Biden - F
Andrew Yang - F
Elizabeth Warren - F
Kamala Harris - F
Tom Steyer - F

Tulsi Gabbard - D, because even though she is a gun-grabbing commie, she doesn't seem as insane as the rest.

The rest of the clowns - F
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Re: My Democtratic candidate grades!

Post by Mountaineer » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:39 pm

vnatale wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:06 pm
dualstow wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:51 pm
Kriegsspiel wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:35 pm
Articulate, likeable fellows are people you want as neighbors, or the head of the PTA. I don't see them succeeding as the head of a country.
I take it you give Obama a D or an F?
I know your question was not directed at me. But I give Obama an A but I never totally got the articulate part. Maybe in comparison to his predecessor? But I oftentimes heard in his speech patterns (and, I am referring to when he was NOT giving a prepared speech) a lot of verbal tics - the "Ums".

That always told me that he was being arrogant in believing that he was so smart that he did not have to prepare and those verbal tics were giving him time to quickly think of an answer to a question he was unprepared to answer.

Vinny
I agree with your analysis of Obama's articulateness (i.e. massive ego) thus I'd rate him a D on articulateness. However, I give Obama a solid F on likeable. He is the only person in my 7 plus decades that actually made me sick at my stomach to watch or listen to. I can't really explain it but he evoked an absolutely visceral body response. My personal response to Obama helps me better understand those who have TDS.
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