Vinny, you're a gentle soul and I like you.
But you are also smart. And an accountant. If you felt it was vitally important to the security of the country to leak some numbers to the press, do you think you could do it without getting caught?
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Vinny, you're a gentle soul and I like you.
How about all your medical records and all your private correspondence with everyone you've ever known?
Does it make a difference that I'm not running for public office, not seeking a position where my decisions would have any impact on you or anyone else participating in this discussion forum?Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:49 pmHow about all your medical records and all your private correspondence with everyone you've ever known?
Want to publish them here?
Yes, I could do if not working for the IRS. But if I were working for the IRS and there was a list of penalties such as "and, every one of your tax returns that have ever been filed and every one you subsequently file will be audited" I might not take the chance.Mark Leavy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:47 pmVinny, you're a gentle soul and I like you.
But you are also smart. And an accountant. If you felt it was vitally important to the security of the country to leak some numbers to the press, do you think you could do it without getting caught?
Probably not to some rabid glennds stalker who alleges he saw you pee on the flagpole when you were in kindergarten.glennds wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:42 pmDoes it make a difference that I'm not running for public office, not seeking a position where my decisions would have any impact on you or anyone else participating in this discussion forum?Libertarian666 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:49 pmHow about all your medical records and all your private correspondence with everyone you've ever known?
Want to publish them here?
Great response, Vinny, thanks.vnatale wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:11 pm ...
We like to think the government is inept. In certain cases you do NOT want to cross the government.
I just don't know of a tax return ever being leaked from the IRS. Do you?
Finally, your exact question was: "to leak some numbers to the press".
What credibility would you give to some numbers appearing in an article that stated it came from an unnamed source within the IRS? I'd suspect none.
Wouldn't we at least need to see the first page of the 1040 both signed by the taxpayer and the tax preparer?
And, even then, how do we know that it genuine and the real thing and not something someone created in a tax program?
Vinny
Vinny's right that I've never heard of anybody's tax information ever being leaked by the IRS. Which is really very impressive.Mark Leavy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:44 amGreat response, Vinny, thanks.
I absolutely believe that it isn't something you would do. Both from a sense of ethics and an understanding that it is a bad idea all the way around. I just don't have much faith that all of the IRS employees have that same ethos and common sense.
Here's hoping you are right.
Mark
Yes, that was very messy and put a huge black mark on the entire organization, no question.Simonjester wrote: given the way the IRS handled tax status applications from the tea party a little while ago, it seems likely that many do not have the ethical standards Vinny (and most of us) would expect and hope they have..
I'm not saying you're wrong.Simonjester wrote: agreed but given past behavior, not leaking tax returns seems more like a line they haven't crossed than a line they "would never cross". i hope its a hard line, and that the system makes it an incredibly tough one to break,
but ....internal vigilance... price of liberty...
much like the way scorpions kill there Uber driver frogs at river crossings, we know the nature of unnamed bureaucrats..
Contrast that to just about every other branch of government where there seems to be leakers galore.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:15 am I'm not saying you're wrong.
But, wow, what a big juicy target that Trump tax return is. Would the NYT pay a leaker for it? I don't actually know. I'm guessing it's a federal crime to leak it, so probably they wouldn't pay.
Regardless, if that one hasn't leaked, it seems like the system is working pretty well.
Yes, that's a good point. Any time you take out a mortgage, for instance, they want years of tax returns. Same for other types of loan, I would imagine. And yet I've never heard of a tax return being leaked.MangoMan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:42 amIt wouldn't have to necessarily be someone at the IRS. I have had to send the first page of my tax return to prove my income to various entities in the past. Theoretically, anyone at one of those firms could leak it.Xan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:15 am I'm not saying you're wrong.
But, wow, what a big juicy target that Trump tax return is. Would the NYT pay a leaker for it? I don't actually know. I'm guessing it's a federal crime to leak it, so probably they wouldn't pay.
Regardless, if that one hasn't leaked, it seems like the system is working pretty well.
Simonjester wrote:
and on the topic of candidates song choices....... biden plays this
Biden then played a “Despacito,” a top song from a few years ago, that means “slowly” in English. The song is sexually graphic in nature.
The song, translated into English, states (warning—explicit lyrics):
I want to breathe in your neck slowly
Let me murmur things in your ear
So that you remember if you’re not with me
Slowly
I want to undress you in kisses slowly
Firmly in the walls of your labyrinth
And of your body, I want to create a manuscript
Up, up, up, up
I want to see your hair dance
I want to be your rhythm
Want you to show my mouth
Your favorite places (Favorite, favorite baby)
Let me trespass your danger zones
Until I make you scream
And you forget your last name
Slowly
We’re gonna do it on a beach in Puerto Rico
Until the waves scream Oh Lord
Biden, the master troll?Simonjester wrote: and on the topic of candidates song choices....... biden plays thisBiden then played a “Despacito,” a top song from a few years ago, that means “slowly” in English. The song is sexually graphic in nature.
The song, translated into English, states (warning—explicit lyrics):
I want to breathe in your neck slowly
Let me murmur things in your ear
So that you remember if you’re not with me
Slowly
I want to see your hair dance
I want to be your rhythm
Simonjester wrote: imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
More like Biden, the demented child molester.Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:06 amBiden, the master troll?Simonjester wrote: and on the topic of candidates song choices....... biden plays thisBiden then played a “Despacito,” a top song from a few years ago, that means “slowly” in English. The song is sexually graphic in nature.
The song, translated into English, states (warning—explicit lyrics):
I want to breathe in your neck slowly
Let me murmur things in your ear
So that you remember if you’re not with me
Slowly
I want to see your hair dance
I want to be your rhythm
Simonjester wrote: and on the topic of candidates song choices....... biden plays thisBiden then played a “Despacito,” a top song from a few years ago, that means “slowly” in English. The song is sexually graphic in nature.
The song, translated into English, states (warning—explicit lyrics):
I want to breathe in your neck slowly
Let me murmur things in your ear
So that you remember if you’re not with me
Slowly
I want to undress you in kisses slowly
Firmly in the walls of your labyrinth
And of your body, I want to create a manuscript
Up, up, up, up
I want to see your hair dance
I want to be your rhythm
Want you to show my mouth
Your favorite places (Favorite, favorite baby)
Let me trespass your danger zones
Until I make you scream
And you forget your last name
Slowly
We’re gonna do it on a beach in Puerto Rico
Until the waves scream Oh Lord
https://twitter.com/TheUnitedSpot1/stat ... 12866?s=20Simonjester wrote: and on the topic of candidates song choices....... biden plays this
Trump just received his third Nobel Peace Prize nomination, so there's that I guess.Simonjester wrote: Trump has finally achieved super villain status
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 824295002/
i didn't bother to read it... i just wanted to share another Trump achievement..
Priceless!Simonjester wrote: if Biden doesn't pick this as his next intro song... he knows nothing about one-upping the competition..
He's a real nowhere man
Sitting in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not where he's going to
Isn't he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere man, please listen
You don't know what you're missing
Nowhere man, the world is at your command
He's as blind as he can be
Just sees what he wants to see
Nowhere man can you see me at all?
Nowhere man, don't worry
Take your time, don't hurry
Leave it all till somebody else lends you a hand
Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not where he's going to
Isn't he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere man, please listen
You don't know what you're missing
Nowhere man, the world is at your command
He's a real nowhere man
Sitting in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Yes, that hit home for me last summer when I talking to a young woman (early 20s?) and said something about the Beatles and was surprised she was that familiar with them. When she responded that they were like 50 years ago, that hit home!Kriegsspiel wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:47 pm That's apparently a Beatles song, for anyone else who isn't ancient.
Just did a quick scan. NOT that much.Mountaineer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:25 pm You might know more than you thought:
http://www.artandpopularculture.com/1910s
Mountaineer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:54 pm
Simonjester wrote:
if Biden doesn't pick this as his next intro song... he knows nothing about one-upping the competition..
He's a real nowhere man
Sitting in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not where he's going to
Isn't he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere man, please listen
You don't know what you're missing
Nowhere man, the world is at your command
He's as blind as he can be
Just sees what he wants to see
Nowhere man can you see me at all?
Nowhere man, don't worry
Take your time, don't hurry
Leave it all till somebody else lends you a hand
Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not where he's going to
Isn't he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere man, please listen
You don't know what you're missing
Nowhere man, the world is at your command
He's a real nowhere man
Sitting in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Priceless!
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